Democratic Primaries

LakeArenal

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112. Well first of all I don't spend my life on DU

Thu Oct 10, 2019, 05:11 PM

Oct 2019

Just because it is the news doesn’t mean it needs to be commented, posted or used to keep the shit flowing.

And I have already admitted I fell for the bait to my regret.

So I’m signing out of this discussion. And will start ignoring posts I should have done to begin with

Bye.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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My wife thinks that Joe Biden is disqualified as a nominee... [View all] brooklynite Oct 2019 OP

p o p c o r n crazytown Oct 2019 #1

I think she is probably right. nt tblue37 Oct 2019 #2

lol.. says the Elizabeth Warren supporter. Cha Oct 2019 #95

Jimmy Carter should have disqualified then because of "billy beer" by his brother. Canoe52 Oct 2019 #129

Billy Beer did not involve a foreign government, as far as I can remember. Liberty Belle Oct 2019 #177

Neither did Biden's son's employment involve a foreign government. Canoe52 Oct 2019 #192

That is just ridiculous and Democrats should not jump aboard the Democrat smearing train established Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #213

Maybe... but unlike with Bernie, shouldn't people wait for all the facts to come out?? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #130

. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #3

"This is troubling for Bernie..." LanternWaste Oct 2019 #20

It's troubling all right Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #100

This. cwydro Oct 2019 #193

Although there may be a little smoke, it's only right to let all the facts come out. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #132

my wife thinks it's bullshit.... quickesst Oct 2019 #4

My wife, Er, I mean I couldn't agree more LakeArenal Oct 2019 #56

she has never been... quickesst Oct 2019 #143

Obama didn't have a problem with his VP's child sitting on a foreign board, nor do I. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #5

Obama spoke out about Hunter? TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #8

He was President at the time. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #9

That doesn't address what you stated. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #11

True, but as a private citizen, Hunter legally had the right to take that job karynnj Oct 2019 #175

just doesn't look right questionseverything Oct 2019 #191

I agree karynnj Oct 2019 #196

I was unaware of that. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #133

Biden had a problem with it, and I expect Obama did too. LAS14 Oct 2019 #38

re: "You can't make laws affecting members of people's family, can you?" thesquanderer Oct 2019 #47

As long as he disclosed it on Ethics forms and made sure he recused on related matters bigbrother05 Oct 2019 #84

Do you know whether Joe did? InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #134

Do we have that short memory, Billy Carter? President Carter had no control over what his brother still_one Oct 2019 #158

Obama gave Biden the job of firing the crooked prosecuter tirebiter Oct 2019 #185

Not disqualified in any way. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #6

I'm referring to qualifications as a nominee, not qualifications to be President brooklynite Oct 2019 #13

Thought that was clear. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #14

My wife has had as much political experience as I have... brooklynite Oct 2019 #16

OK then that's a fair question, not that it matters. In the end, it's gonna be Bernie & Elizabeth. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #135

Bernie is in third place and dropping... brooklynite Oct 2019 #145

New polls show Biden's standing has remained largely stable. Gothmog Oct 2019 #115

Do you have the RCP averages graph over the last month? TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #116

According to Nate- it's sort of a myth that Biden's falling in the polls. Gothmog Oct 2019 #118

Good analysis but even he throws in the hedge words. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #119

More from Nate Gothmog Oct 2019 #187

so while his numbers are up, his lead is shrinking questionseverything Oct 2019 #190

RCP has a dirty little secret! It's associated with a RW FB page called conservative country Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #154

This message was self-deleted by its author bluewater Oct 2019 #7

Trump: Mission Accomplished aeromanKC Oct 2019 #10

I think your obnoxiousdrunk Oct 2019 #12

Fact Check Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #15

I do not think it is disqualifying, and I do think he is still the best shot to dump Rump, but Celerity Oct 2019 #17

"lack of control over his son" phleshdef Oct 2019 #25

when your father is the VP of the US, you are not in a normal position, and that is a two-way street Celerity Oct 2019 #27

No. Thats horse shit. If my father was VP and he tried to control my life, I'd tell him where to go. phleshdef Oct 2019 #31

completely disagree, especially considering the history of that firm and its founder nt Celerity Oct 2019 #35

None of that is relevant. Its his life. His decisions. His freedom. And he did nothing illegal. phleshdef Oct 2019 #36

you apparently did not read my first post, at least the part where I said this is not disqualifying Celerity Oct 2019 #39

My, such a victim now. phleshdef Oct 2019 #63

no, just consistent Celerity Oct 2019 #152

But you contend "lack of control over his son" could be a criteria upon which to judge his emmaverybo Oct 2019 #53

I personally can chalk it off like you do, but it is not types like us that is is going to come down Celerity Oct 2019 #57

Ok. Fair enough. Then your post was expressing a concern non-liberals will promote. As to Hunter's emmaverybo Oct 2019 #69

fair enough as well Celerity Oct 2019 #70

You can't tell adult children what to do...what more purity for Democrats while the GOP does what Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #139

That is bullshit. An adult son can sit on any board...and with the Trump kids doing what they are Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #147

no it is not, sorry, and I am not smearing anyone Celerity Oct 2019 #148

I think Joe is one of the world's "best" dads Backseat Driver Oct 2019 #189

I agree with you. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2019 #217

I suppose the same goes for Ivanka Trump. delisen Oct 2019 #106

even moreso, as they are the principals in fraud, I am not accusing any of the Bidens of that at all Celerity Oct 2019 #150

Mega false equivalency. She is part of the administration. She works in her father's campaigns. phleshdef Oct 2019 #164

Don't understand the "try harder" comment delisen Oct 2019 #169

Try harder to make a valid point. phleshdef Oct 2019 #170

Does not seem to apply to discussion. delisen Oct 2019 #218

Control over his son? Who has that from 16 on? LakeArenal Oct 2019 #61

I would expect a Vice President to have some input into it, especially given Hunter's past Celerity Oct 2019 #67

I have no answer to that as I disagree totally LakeArenal Oct 2019 #78

No...a kid like Hunter does what he chooses...and Biden has done the best he could...mental Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #141

once again, I completely disagree with you, you are not the arbiter of universal opinion Celerity Oct 2019 #149

This message was self-deleted by its author InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #138

"lack of control over his son" TwilightZone Oct 2019 #172

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #18

Trump is teeing up Elizabeth Warren and is ready to go as soon as Biden is sufficiently gutted... Hekate Oct 2019 #22

+1. emulatorloo Oct 2019 #51

+1000 emmaverybo Oct 2019 #54

Deaf ears out there will continue to do Puke work for them LakeArenal Oct 2019 #82

Indeed.. those posting these kinds of things still seem to think their candidate won't be affected Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #155

This should be a no brainer MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #203

I'm not surprised. Faith-based politics is a trendy little thing these days. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #19

What "allegations " did the OP make? cwydro Oct 2019 #24

"Many people are saying..." emulatorloo Oct 2019 #59

Well, there is that...."they" talk inside trump's head, too. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #65

Stealing Trump's line -"almost everyone agrees is true" Nice redstateblues Oct 2019 #92

Don't expect a reply Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #103

Sigh, I'm used to it. cwydro Oct 2019 #111

I'm not surprised Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #101

It also is strange that a man kicked out of the Navy not long after being commissioned who was cwydro Oct 2019 #21

Are you really sad about it? BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #45

I'm sad that Biden will be tarnished by it, yes. cwydro Oct 2019 #73

Why do you insist on spreading the tarnish? LakeArenal Oct 2019 #83

I'm not spreading it anymore than anyone spreads anything in the news at the present time. cwydro Oct 2019 #93

Well first of all I don't spend my life on DU LakeArenal Oct 2019 #112

I dont spend my life here either. Been out planting spring bulbs all day. cwydro Oct 2019 #113

It's not you I want to ignore. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #117

Yes, too warm here for this time of year in NC. cwydro Oct 2019 #120

Oh no. Pals for sure LakeArenal Oct 2019 #121

Dang, I've been thinking of moving there. cwydro Oct 2019 #122

It's AWESOME😄🙉🦋🕷🐊🐍🌴🌺 LakeArenal Oct 2019 #126

Thanks so much. cwydro Oct 2019 #136

Not spreading anything anymore than anyone else... will keep my feelings to myself..,really?? Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #157

LOL, look at the "tarnishing" of Bernie that goes on here on a daily basis. Oh wait... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #181

But you didn't keep your feeling or thoughts to yourself. It damages every candidate to post Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #156

Yeah, somehow I don't think Warren cares one whit what I post on a random discussion board. cwydro Oct 2019 #194

I'm sad about it too, but that's somethin Joe should take up with his son Hunter, who is responsible InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #183

If there's nothing to hide, all questions will be asked and answered with full transparency... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #142

That is a horrible thing to say. Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #144

You are so right. yellowwoodII Oct 2019 #200

It's a problem for him as well as his public speaking ability. I think he will lose jalan48 Oct 2019 #23

He is known for his public speaking ability. He makes an emotional connection with his audience emmaverybo Oct 2019 #64

I agree about Joe connecting with the audience. He has done well in the past but after watching jalan48 Oct 2019 #128

It's your opinion...and that's all it is...an opinion Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #160

You're right... Joe did an excellent job in the one-on-one VP debates. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #186

Without a doubt... though Joe did pretty well in the VP debates. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #146

My dog thinks this is bullshit Green Line Oct 2019 #26

lol.. yeah nothing personal against the Cha Oct 2019 #96

+1000 Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #161

So you support Mayor Pete. Just imagine the worst thing Trump could say about him & ask yourself... Hekate Oct 2019 #28

Agreed - Trump would go there and say that "people are looking into it". Trump has no decency. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #30

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #42

Unfortunately Trump will lie about Warren next. emulatorloo Oct 2019 #60

"I like Biden but..."the candidate I prefer is invincible and therefore can not be diminished when emmaverybo Oct 2019 #76

Continually saying this or that "story" hurts Joe LakeArenal Oct 2019 #85

Excellent damn point, Hekate.. Mahalo! Cha Oct 2019 #98

And that is what he does!! Those that play along further his end game.. NOT OURS!! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #162

So is it necessary for any person who might run for president to disinherit family? nolabear Oct 2019 #29

Not at all. The officeholder has a duty of transparency to us and the country delisen Oct 2019 #109

You're wife is entitled to her opinion--my opinion is that "Mayor Pete" book_worm Oct 2019 #32

It is a flamebait OP to try to stir things up. Typical. Hickenlooper was the OPs previous still_one Oct 2019 #37

I agree! True Blue American Oct 2019 #66

Agree. "A flame-bait" post intended to inspire negative discussion around a candidate the OP emmaverybo Oct 2019 #72

A never heard the phrase "Flame Bait" LakeArenal Oct 2019 #86

Still_one used the term, a fine one. Your resolve to avoid same is one I need to follow, for my emmaverybo Oct 2019 #90

I hear ya. I try to do the same thing, but sometimes get "baited" also still_one Oct 2019 #123

Excellent description. Thanks still_one Oct 2019 #124

I have to wonder if your wife appreciates you posting her views here? still_one Oct 2019 #33

Well, my husband has said . . . peggysue2 Oct 2019 #34

I just sent Biden more $. I figure if Trump is that scared of him I better amp up my support! Dream Girl Oct 2019 #40

We watched Trump pick off his opponents one by one in '16. The stories don't have to be true... Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #41

Her concern is duly noted. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #43

Jeez. From the subject line, I thought your wife thought Biden had a heart attack. PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #44

Ok. BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #48

I don't think that question need concern us. We can only speculate which leads to a kind of gossip. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #79

That is pure crap...lots of pols family members have worked abroad and for foreign governments... Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #131

Biden couldn't prevent Hunter from taking that job. Blue_true Oct 2019 #207

I agree with that...you can't tell adult kids what to do. That some here say and some candidates Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #212

Hunter Biden did not do anything wrong! Yet you use the term "appearance of wrong doing." Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #163

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Oct 2019 #168

Joe Biden could not prevent Hunter from taking the job. Blue_true Oct 2019 #206

the best Joe Biden could do was privately advise Hunter to turn the job down. Celerity Oct 2019 #210

Rofl!! wiping eyes.. okay.. my husband switched to Biden a couple of weeks Peacetrain Oct 2019 #49

Seems like Rudy Giuliani hacked your account emulatorloo Oct 2019 #50

There is nothing to this story in the real world Gothmog Oct 2019 #52

Thanks. We're really wading in it today. nt Hekate Oct 2019 #88

Yes, and as much as DU'ers would like to think this is the real world... it ain't Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #165

Gracias, Goth! Cha Oct 2019 #99

You can hear his clear answer it's posted in this forum Green Line Oct 2019 #55

I don't know that I would go that far loyalsister Oct 2019 #58

It does not begin to "resemble" Trump or Trump's family's corruption because there was no corruption emmaverybo Oct 2019 #89

Kids with overseas relationships loyalsister Oct 2019 #171

I'm with the WaPo Op-Ed. "Biden made a speech all debate participants should follow", as run by emmaverybo Oct 2019 #173

It's an unnecessary distraction loyalsister Oct 2019 #197

The Trump machine will attack any nominee we choose. If it can attack Biden, who has been well emmaverybo Oct 2019 #198

Opinion: Biden's words should be echoed by all debate participants Gothmog Oct 2019 #62

Cool story bro awesomerwb1 Oct 2019 #68

It's a global economy, so Baked Potato Oct 2019 #71

That settles it then. RelativelyJones Oct 2019 #74

Is your wife aware that most corporate boards are like that? SharonClark Oct 2019 #75

+1000 Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #81

+1,000 nt Kahuna7 Oct 2019 #87

It's a shame that people can be so effortlessly swayed by lies from the liar-in-chief. SMH... Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #77

Yes, any Democrat is disqualified by anyone they know who isn't a perfect human being Clash City Rocker Oct 2019 #80

Of course Ivanka's 30+ patents with China and her position in the WH are not relevant. Right? Hekate Oct 2019 #91

My wife thinks Joe is the only Democrat that can beat Trump redstateblues Oct 2019 #94

Oh well.. if YOUR WIFE says it, then I guess it must be true. scheming daemons Oct 2019 #97

My wife doesn't hang out on political blogs... brooklynite Oct 2019 #102

No offense to your wife, but such stories have a ring of "I have a friend who said...." Maybe "My emmaverybo Oct 2019 #104

I never said I agreed with her..... brooklynite Oct 2019 #105

As I said, in that case, posts can take up any OTHER person's opinion and stir a proxy debate emmaverybo Oct 2019 #108

And everyone has an opinion...so who cares. It seems to me that if we punish Biden for Demsrule86 Oct 2019 #137

You said it. You really did. Bears repeating. Dems should not let the Trump machine pick for us. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #176

I'm making fun of the OP redstateblues Oct 2019 #182

Yes, let's please Donald Trump and disqualify the opponent he's been trying to discredit. Doodley Oct 2019 #107

i knew this would be a worthwhile read. thnx for post. :) Kurt V. Oct 2019 #110

Yes, we need the most competent presidential candidate who has the best standing to take on Dolt45. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #179

Are You Married to Amy Klobuchar? DrFunkenstein Oct 2019 #114

Axelrod was of the opinion that everyone at the Debate would be asked that question. brooklynite Oct 2019 #125

I disagree. I think Biden can get through this. And if he's our nominee blm Oct 2019 #127

You're so right about Elizabeth... she needs to be on the ticket, one way or the other!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #180

I can't believe people are falling for this shit AGAIN! liberal N proud Oct 2019 #140

It seems like nothing was learned from 2016 MustLoveBeagles Oct 2019 #202

Why post this kind of crap..seriously. It's an opinion..and that's all it is.. an opinion Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #151

This is a discussion board, is it not? cwydro Oct 2019 #201

So corrupt. Ghost Dog Oct 2019 #153

do you retweet trump supporters? Lib 4 Life Oct 2019 #159

Hiding behind your wife is a curious tactic. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #166

No one should be held responsible for what relatives did treestar Oct 2019 #167

You forgot to mention the "Bernie Exception"... then all bets are off, right?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #184

Let it play out. Btw.... David Axelrod?? Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #174

Yeah...guy who got Barack Obama elected. You may have heard of him. brooklynite Oct 2019 #205

Nope never have :). Just don't like him. Think Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #215

Pleas provide an example of his conservatism brooklynite Oct 2019 #216

You know B, it's not a specific thing it's just demeanor Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #219

His "fire" was good for two Presidential elections... brooklynite Oct 2019 #220

Me too...but I thought plouffe was the supposed mastermind Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2019 #221

Biden is like the scent of Downey vs Trump, the dumpster BootinUp Oct 2019 #178

According to Nate, this story has NOT hurt Joe Gothmog Oct 2019 #188

Oh please, yawn onetexan Oct 2019 #195

I think your wife is right. yellowwoodII Oct 2019 #199

Equating this to Trump's family is pretty silly. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #214

This kind of handwringing is why Democrats lose elections. yardwork Oct 2019 #204

@JoeBiden is living rent-free in trump's head. Gothmog Oct 2019 #208

This may have been a thing in a different time. It's just not now. herding cats Oct 2019 #209

I never understood the posters who thought this was going to benefit Biden Quixote1818 Oct 2019 #211