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thesquanderer

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112. As I said, if you find it that important to know exactly what he said, and when, and in what context

Sat Oct 12, 2019, 08:25 PM

Oct 2019

...you're much better off googling the videos yourself than asking me. I didn't care enough to research beyond what I read. And since he's not my first choice anyway, it has no effect on my vote either way. Though I do believe that every candidate deserves to have his or her statements fairly represented.

But you know, I have no problem at all with someone after a heart attack considering his options of how to proceed, what to do short term, what his goals are long term... and even changing his mind. The fact is, he can't know for sure today how he will feel a month from now. So he can say he intends to work back up to more rallies, or not... and either way, he can do it or he can not do it... so what? People can't predict the future. He will feel how he will feel, and it will be what it will be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Everybody is afraid to say it... but Bernie should drop out [View all] scheming daemons Oct 2019 OP

You are entitled to your opinion Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #1

Many here wanted others, like Gillibrand, to drop question everything Oct 2019 #34

Yes, but as an ardent Bennie supporter, I think Bernie should put out a full medical report InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #48

He should go to Trump's old doctor. That guy can really write a health report. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #53

Typical. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #59

Bernie's recent episode is as serious as a... Towlie Oct 2019 #137

if he is in it for the policy, he should drop out, mopinko Oct 2019 #2

but he wants bernie to win pangaia Oct 2019 #3

Nothing wrong with that... so do I!! (But see my post #48 above.) InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #49

If that's true then Warren needs to work on a deal with Bernie. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #98

Agree. Time to retire... and endorse. C_U_L8R Oct 2019 #4

I'm of no mind to tell any candidate to drop out before the first caucus or vote. hlthe2b Oct 2019 #5

I agree, Bernie should take care of himself Baked Potato Oct 2019 #6

This message was self-deleted by its author comradebillyboy Oct 2019 #82

Let the Voters Decide ritapria Oct 2019 #7

If the heart attack had happened to literally any other candidate..... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #8

I agree. murielm99 Oct 2019 #10

Aren't you doing that ? CentralMass Oct 2019 #28

Prominent Democrats and the media would be doing it...... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #44

Yes.. and why? Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #60

Some people have been screaming for Sanders to drop out pretty much since Biden entered the race, thesquanderer Oct 2019 #52

Well Stated ritapria Oct 2019 #61

what a dbl standard questionseverything Oct 2019 #91

the brain surgery was over 30 years ago dsc Oct 2019 #116

the brain surgery was for a reacurring cancer questionseverything Oct 2019 #139

Precisely Sherman A1 Oct 2019 #36

That's up to the candidate to decide. Our choice is whether or not to KPN Oct 2019 #9

I agree, if Bernie drops out, Warren will win big. We shall see what he decides... Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #14

If Bernie drops out, about as many of his supporters go to Biden as Warren, thesquanderer Oct 2019 #38

i just don't brlieve that since bernie and biden's policies are totally opposite questionseverything Oct 2019 #92

Up to you to believe your gut or the polls. But if you want an explanation... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #100

Actually I don't think so. The 2nd choice polls do not indicate that Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #62

With all due respect to your post, please let's support his decision to stay.. or to go Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #11

Literally *NO* other candidate would be getting that kind of treatment in the same situation scheming daemons Oct 2019 #13

So you are taking it upon yourself to KPN Oct 2019 #18

Because we can't afford to have a candidate who is nearly 80 and with a bad ticker scheming daemons Oct 2019 #19

Exactomondo! It can't be said any clearer. brush Oct 2019 #31

He had stents placed after a small heart attack. Doesn't have a bad ticker. elias7 Oct 2019 #146

I know that... but why alienate sanders voters?? And they will be! That was my point! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #55

If THey Sat The Race Out Because Of 'Hurt' Feelings Me. Oct 2019 #16

I get that!! But why rub salt in the wound... trying to shout him out doesn't help Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #57

Nobody Is Shouting Me. Oct 2019 #73

Gray, Turner and Sirota do far more to turn Sanders supporters away from the party... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #23

maybe the op wants a repeat? questionseverything Oct 2019 #93

With all due respect to your post, Thekaspervote. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #110

If I wanted an old, angry white guy yelling, SCVDem Oct 2019 #12

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #74

What I Don't Get Me. Oct 2019 #15

Yes, but temporarily. (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2019 #37

Were We Being Gaslighted? Me. Oct 2019 #39

No, but more people saw the attention-grabbing headlines than watched the videos. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #45

So He Never Said He Was Going To Slow Things Up Or Words To That Effect? Me. Oct 2019 #80

I believe it was this... thesquanderer Oct 2019 #101

I Find It Important Me. Oct 2019 #105

As I said, if you find it that important to know exactly what he said, and when, and in what context thesquanderer Oct 2019 #112

Fair Enough Me. Oct 2019 #122

I would argue that saying you will "change the nature" of your campaign implies a permanent LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #109

Context. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #114

Actually, I saw the headlines and the camera time. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #106

Aah...That REally Bothers Me Me. Oct 2019 #107

Umhm. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #111

I'm not afraid to say it. Bernie should drop out... SidDithers Oct 2019 #17

Not only that, but Bernie has a serious humor impairment. smirkymonkey Oct 2019 #142

Well said question everything Oct 2019 #143

Everyone understands his run at delegates is over. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #20

I agree. He should drop out and endorse. bitterross Oct 2019 #21

Thing is... if he does drop out -JUST IMHO he will not endorse anymore than he did in '16 Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #64

From your mouth to the gods' ears. greatauntoftriplets Oct 2019 #22

I believe it's up to Bernie, time will tell if he's able to continue his campaign Baclava Oct 2019 #24

Of course it is ultimately up to him.... but.... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #25

Post removed Post removed Oct 2019 #26

I am undecided on who I support... but not undecided on who I do *NOT* scheming daemons Oct 2019 #41

I wish you the best on your personal voyage of deciding who to support Devil Child Oct 2019 #51

Should not have been there in the first place. This is a Democratic race question everything Oct 2019 #27

I'm not sure where his supporters will go...so I guess it doesn't matter to me. Wounded Bear Oct 2019 #29

Not afraid at all. Should have never run again to begin with. -nt Amimnoch Oct 2019 #30

How about a blind poll where people were asked if they would vote for dem4decades Oct 2019 #32

he turns 80 around 7 and a half months into his 1st term, if he won (which he wont) Biden turns 79 Celerity Oct 2019 #118

Yeah That's not good. dem4decades Oct 2019 #121

Ageism or realism? Bernie and Joe pattyloutwo Oct 2019 #33

EW is also in the elderly, or more politely, senior citizen category. She is just as subject to emmaverybo Oct 2019 #43

Bernie should stay in until South Carolina BlueMississippi Oct 2019 #35

If you consider Warren supporters to be "extreme left" Boomer Oct 2019 #63

What DUer ever says that? Please don't admonish me as though I am spreading Republican propaganda. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #96

Are you addressing this to me? Boomer Oct 2019 #115

Yeah. Not that you addressed anything to me. I used "me" simply to own my response to what emmaverybo Oct 2019 #124

I was addressing the poster who did Boomer Oct 2019 #134

OK, didn't see that. Personally have little use for the labels. I don't like the term "centrist," emmaverybo Oct 2019 #135

Warren's not "extreme left". Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #94

Agree! None of us are. Bernie and Liz are liberal progressives on domestic policy issues. Bernie, emmaverybo Oct 2019 #99

Yes, they're gonna smear us Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #104

I think they will try voter suppression with Biden--racist, sexist, Joe Arpaio's evil twin--and for emmaverybo Oct 2019 #113

Bernie should go when Bernie and his family think it is time to go Jarqui Oct 2019 #40

Completely disagree. This is Bernie's call (and his families). My Dad lived another 25 years after Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #42

Your dad was 78 when he got stents? 25+78 equals 103, that is admirable age irisblue Oct 2019 #47

He lived to be 95 and chose to depart at that point. His heart was fine. How about you? Evolve Dammit Oct 2019 #89

Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #46

As somebody who has had a heart attack; James48 Oct 2019 #50

Nobody would tell any other candidate to drop out either ArcticFox Oct 2019 #54

Oh the voice of sanity!! It is all about respect Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #66

He should drop out and in doing so make sure Warren wins the nomination Anders8 Oct 2019 #56

2nd choice voter polls do not support your opinion Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #67

I am not afraid to say it: Bernie- Drop out. Focus on your health and family Pachamama Oct 2019 #58

There are a LOT of reasons he should drop out...... getagrip_already Oct 2019 #65

I'm sure he is talking to his family, friends, doctors about this, thinking it through yaesu Oct 2019 #68

I think 80 is too old for the presidency Martin Eden Oct 2019 #69

women generally age better too questionseverything Oct 2019 #95

Warren looks and acts 20 years younger than BS. we can do it Oct 2019 #108

I'm not afraid to say it: "Bernie should drop out." Auggie Oct 2019 #70

When I think about things I want for workers loyalsister Oct 2019 #71

I've been saying it for months; he should never have been allowed to run in the first place LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #72

I wish he did, but not for health reasons AlexSFCA Oct 2019 #75

"Everybody is afraid to say it ..." left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 #76

Gosh, I did not know Elizabeth Warren was 70 yrs old. She looks amazing. amywalk Oct 2019 #77

I would think that a person would bother to find out basic details about their preferred candidate. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #86

Ok, Skya. You're a real Biden Booster around here. Quick kcr Oct 2019 #129

He doesn't need to. The primary voters will save him from MineralMan Oct 2019 #78

This! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #81

Disagree with this. Agschmid Oct 2019 #79

Rec. cwydro Oct 2019 #83

It sure does. n/t sheshe2 Oct 2019 #117

sanders poll numbers were falling before the heart attack Gothmog Oct 2019 #84

Because Sanders has such a substantial following, his followers and media falsely assume... Garrett78 Oct 2019 #85

I'm sure Jane would be relieved as well. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #120

He will never get my vote in the primary..heart attack or no heart attack..Wish him a speedy helpisontheway Oct 2019 #87

Just plain false logic. GeorgeGist Oct 2019 #88

Why not let kacekwl Oct 2019 #90

Have you had no computer or tv? Lots of people have said it. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #97

we need warriors. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #102

I'm not. I've said it since the last primary... SKKY Oct 2019 #103

I'm not afraid to say it. Bernie should drop out and return to Vermont... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #119

He probably should. herding cats Oct 2019 #123

This is why I don't come to primaries (unless by accident) JonLP24 Oct 2019 #125

People recover from heart attacks now treestar Oct 2019 #126

I'm not going to vote for a candidate who -- based on what is publicly known about them -- has RockRaven Oct 2019 #127

Don't tell us what "everybody" thinks. /nt philly_bob Oct 2019 #128

Regardless of age, he's in the top 3. Maybe all the others should drop out MyMission Oct 2019 #130

See post #85 regarding his top 3 status. Garrett78 Oct 2019 #131

Selected quotes from Bernie's email "If I run": betsuni Oct 2019 #132

He absolutely should not drop out. Complete horse manure. Joe941 Oct 2019 #133

worried Bernie might win? myohmy2 Oct 2019 #136

No, some really just don't like or trust him, to the point Hortensis Oct 2019 #141

I wish him good health Generic Brad Oct 2019 #138

It's only a health concern if it's pneumonia suffered by a female candidate LanternWaste Oct 2019 #140

I worry about him xmas74 Oct 2019 #144

Forget today: what are they going to look like in 4 years? Are they going to run for re-elect? NCLefty Oct 2019 #145