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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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In reply to the discussion: The eye-popping cost of Medicare for All [View all]Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,136 posts)88. Back at you
Follow your own advice.
As I said, you're not in the UK. We kicked those assholes out over 200 years ago.
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2,461 Ford class nuclear carriers (complete with electromagnetic launch systems)
lapfog_1
Oct 2019
#23
No wonder EW doesn't want to talk about it. Really pleased this has come out. Voters need to know
Thekaspervote
Oct 2019
#2
Voters need to know that they will save $ when their new taxes are less than their current premiums.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#8
It's funny how supporters never talk about how much the median taxpayer will save either...
brooklynite
Oct 2019
#11
Even if the savings are as low as 5%-10%, it's still a massive benefit for the country.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#17
For whom? Is that a serious question? Do you honestly think the average American will pay more?
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#33
Why would a Dem implement a system where the typical person pays more? How would that pass?
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#41
What's amusing is you thinking a Dem President can force Congress to pass such a bill.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#49
Why do you believe an MFA system implemented by Dems will increase costs to the average American?
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#32
if Congress has the wherewithal to pass an MFA bill, corporate taxes will definitely increase.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#60
I am all for a tax increase since I would no longer pay premiums, co-pays, deductibles, meds, etc.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#62
good - I'm guessing you don't have a decent employer provided ( or union provided ) plan -n/t
lapfog_1
Oct 2019
#63
I have great insurance. I will still be better off under MFA as will you and every other American.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#64
Now take your preposterous 14% increase and start deducting everything you no longer pay for.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#66
Look at all the anger here earlier from wealthy people who had their SALT deductions limited to 10K
MichMan
Oct 2019
#68
Not every American. Some who pay very little for employer-provided good quality plans won't be
emmaverybo
Oct 2019
#128
You can focus on selfish outliers. Real Democrats like me will focus on the good for all of society.
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#129
Many have very low co-pays,no deductibles, prescriptions never more than $15 and usually about
emmaverybo
Oct 2019
#134
Societal Savings are not tax revenues and this plan will not work in the real world
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#122
What do you think happens to the premiums deducted from paychecks under an MFA plan?
LonePirate
Oct 2019
#124
Again, you have to pay for these programs with tax revenues and not societal savings
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#171
Nobody has ever been able to specifically quantify the "savings" that would result, nor...
George II
Oct 2019
#186
how many people know what DRG is? Medicare effectively sets a max cost and once any provider hits
beachbumbob
Oct 2019
#3
This is just bullshit. Other developed nations are able to provide healthcare for all at a fraction
Doodley
Oct 2019
#5
USA pays nearly 18% GDP for healthcare. UK less than 10%. Guess what? The Brits
Doodley
Oct 2019
#90
I've heard the same talking points on Fox News. Ever heard of economies of scale?
Doodley
Oct 2019
#85
Insurance companies have extensive claims and payment infrastructure in place.
Blue_true
Oct 2019
#116
Throw in free childcare for every baby, free college and eliminating student debt and I say we have
UniteFightBack
Oct 2019
#6
Overhead is an accounting term. It can be figured in many ways. That chart has no explanation.
wasupaloopa
Oct 2019
#20
Why becuase you think so? The American people do not think so. Supporting that is supporting trump
wasupaloopa
Oct 2019
#18
I'm 69 and have been on Medicare Advantage for 3 years and beg to disagree
CurtEastPoint
Oct 2019
#29
I liked it. But if I were one of those who had to see a certain doc, take any medicine I wanted,
Hoyt
Oct 2019
#113
All fairy tales! Where is the study that supports all that? It is just made up shit!
wasupaloopa
Oct 2019
#16
I've been hearing that since 1977 when I worked for a state Medicaid agency, even believed it.
Hoyt
Oct 2019
#30
If only a Public Option had been enacted, 80% of population would be enrolled by now, close to MFA.
Hoyt
Oct 2019
#44
"The US spent 3.5 trillion in 2017 and 3.5 * 10 is close to 34 trillion."
AncientGeezer
Oct 2019
#40
I think the nature of these discussion that center around the question of
The Liberal Lion
Oct 2019
#24
Agree. That's fastest way to better healthcare system as long as so many are skeptical.
Hoyt
Oct 2019
#78
You are right. These are bullshit numbers. They are talking point numbers that are there to help
Doodley
Oct 2019
#89
Yes, it is real, but the idea that we have to almost double it to cover everybody is not real.
Doodley
Oct 2019
#93
You are correct. I would say that all Democrats need to wake up to what you are saying:
Doodley
Oct 2019
#110
I thought Warren's M4A plan was (essentially) the same as Bernie M4A plan. If so, why only require
in2herbs
Oct 2019
#127
Support for a public option has been increasing, and for Medicare-for-All has been decreasing
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#136
Societal savings are not tax revenues and cannot be used to pay for this program
Gothmog
Oct 2019
#143
The discussion ends when you consider we are all human and should be better than this, meaning, yes
rainy
Oct 2019
#152
Nancy Pelosi is "not for doing away with Obamacare" and prefers to give people choices.
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#194