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In reply to the discussion: Diplomat tells investigators he raised alarms in 2015 about Hunter Biden's Ukraine work [View all]Dennis Donovan
(31,059 posts)8. Linked article is Bothsiderism bullshit
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a29515301/george-kent-deposition-hunter-biden-donald-trump-republicans/
The Washington Post's Story on George Kent and Hunter Biden Shows Desperation to Play Both Sides
I think we can go a bit harder than "unsubstantiated claims" here, no?
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
OCT 18, 2019
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Bear in mindif the folks at Camp Runamuck had not bungled their way into admitting to several felonies and impeachable offenses, brother Kent would still be out there happily carrying out the idiotic non-policies cooked up by El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago that have sold out the national interest and lit a good part of the world on fire. Moreover, I think it's safe to assume that the People Familiar With The Testimony are either Republican congresscritters or Republican staffers. If that is the case, then the Post has a responsibility to let its readers know that fact since this is clearly going to be the White House defense strategy going forward.
No names, of course. But "Republican sources familiar with the testimony" would be perfectly inbounds. (Come to think of it, if the sources are Democrats, that's a helluva story, too.) Anonymity is one thing. Strategic camouflage is another, and no journalist is bound to provide the latter. That's how everybody got in trouble with Whitewater. And it's not like it's an impossible thing to do. In fact, later in the story, an anonymous source is identified as, "a former senior Biden national security adviser," which lends credibility to offset a reader's skepticism as regards anonymous sources.
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And this section here is just complete manure.
Here, in the context of a political campaign, in which, I guess, empirical facts are not altogether necessary, we are comparing something that the president* actually did, and something that his chief-of-staff copped to on Thursday, to "unfounded" charges and "questions" about why the elder Biden "didn't anticipate concerns." Can the shadows and the clouds be far behind? And then there's this:
A demonstrably truthless president* and his allies have made "unsubstantiated" claims? I think we could go a little harder there, no? I think we all can agree that unbridled nepotism is not necessarily a good thing in government; Lord knows, we have had enough proof of that over the past couple of years. But if we're in the middle of creating a media environment in which Donald Trump, Jr. feels comfortable waxing all moral about what the children of politicians should and should not do, then nobody has learned anything.
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The Washington Post's Story on George Kent and Hunter Biden Shows Desperation to Play Both Sides
I think we can go a bit harder than "unsubstantiated claims" here, no?
BY CHARLES P. PIERCE
OCT 18, 2019
<snip>
Bear in mindif the folks at Camp Runamuck had not bungled their way into admitting to several felonies and impeachable offenses, brother Kent would still be out there happily carrying out the idiotic non-policies cooked up by El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago that have sold out the national interest and lit a good part of the world on fire. Moreover, I think it's safe to assume that the People Familiar With The Testimony are either Republican congresscritters or Republican staffers. If that is the case, then the Post has a responsibility to let its readers know that fact since this is clearly going to be the White House defense strategy going forward.
No names, of course. But "Republican sources familiar with the testimony" would be perfectly inbounds. (Come to think of it, if the sources are Democrats, that's a helluva story, too.) Anonymity is one thing. Strategic camouflage is another, and no journalist is bound to provide the latter. That's how everybody got in trouble with Whitewater. And it's not like it's an impossible thing to do. In fact, later in the story, an anonymous source is identified as, "a former senior Biden national security adviser," which lends credibility to offset a reader's skepticism as regards anonymous sources.
<snip>
And this section here is just complete manure.
Although many of Trumps charges regarding Hunter Biden have been unfounded, the elder Biden has faced questions about why he didnt anticipate concerns about potential conflicts of interest as he took a leading role in carrying out U.S. policy toward Ukraine. Polls show Biden with an advantage over Trump in a potential general election matchup, and Biden has sought in recent days to focus attention on the actions of a president many Democrats see as corrupt and unfit for office.
Here, in the context of a political campaign, in which, I guess, empirical facts are not altogether necessary, we are comparing something that the president* actually did, and something that his chief-of-staff copped to on Thursday, to "unfounded" charges and "questions" about why the elder Biden "didn't anticipate concerns." Can the shadows and the clouds be far behind? And then there's this:
Trump and his allies have made the unsubstantiated claim that Biden pressed for the prosecutors firing to protect his son. In fact, according to former U.S. officials and Ukrainian anti-corruption activists, the investigation of Burisma was dormant at the time. And Biden, adding to the calls from others in the U.S. government and Western institutions, was urging Ukraine to tap a new prosecutor who would be more aggressive in combating corruption.
A demonstrably truthless president* and his allies have made "unsubstantiated" claims? I think we could go a little harder there, no? I think we all can agree that unbridled nepotism is not necessarily a good thing in government; Lord knows, we have had enough proof of that over the past couple of years. But if we're in the middle of creating a media environment in which Donald Trump, Jr. feels comfortable waxing all moral about what the children of politicians should and should not do, then nobody has learned anything.
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primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Diplomat tells investigators he raised alarms in 2015 about Hunter Biden's Ukraine work [View all]
bluewater
Oct 2019
OP
"the impeachment inquiry also threatens to keep alive questions..."
HeartlandProgressive
Oct 2019
#1
'Concern' is fairly warranted ... but is there any actual evidence Hunter acted corruptly? (nt)
mr_lebowski
Oct 2019
#2
Companies hire famous people and put them on their Boards for the name recognition ALL THE TIME
mr_lebowski
Oct 2019
#13
Hunter Biden quit Burisma two weeks before Joe announced his candidacy. Everything else
ancianita
Oct 2019
#5
Not a good look and dirty, grimy Trump will have millions of $$ to amplify this.
MelissaB
Oct 2019
#16