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TexasTowelie

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43. As much as I despise Republicans that reject science,

Tue Mar 19, 2019, 11:39 PM

Mar 2019

I also see a contingent of Democrats that reject reality. The idea that people should only work for 25 years and expect to retire for another 25 years while having the same standard of living when they were employed is ridiculous.

I definitely sympathize with the people that have lost their jobs during their 40s and 50s since I fit in that category. In my own defense, I was also taking classes and acquiring new skills throughout my career. However, I also know that many of the people that lost their jobs never enhanced their education or learned new skills while they were employed. It was simpler to finish their work shifts, then go home and do nothing to provide added value to their employers or even remain physically fit for their jobs. Those individuals participated in a market economy that is constantly looking for more productive workers who are willing to compete for the jobs that are available and who are willing to accept lower wages. Life isn't always fair nor does it offer any guarantees.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Beto O'rourke: raise retirement age and pay a greater percentage of your income to Social Security [View all] Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 OP

Okay, he's ruled himself out. Doodley Mar 2019 #1

Yup, right out of the gate, his 1st policy proposal... stick a fork in him, Beto's done. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #26

That is NOT "his 1st policy proposal", that's a video from 7 years ago, here is his current position George II Mar 2019 #76

How convenient. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #88

Wtf?! Ohiogal Mar 2019 #2

Ytf! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #3

Never seen a campaign implode so quickly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #27

Never saw a 7-year old video used to misrepresent a candidate's position today. George II Mar 2019 #89

It would be very hard for me to vote for this guy. nt Nay Mar 2019 #4

Zero chance after that flubbed proposal. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #28

If he is the nominee, I will vote for him. Period. 33taw Mar 2019 #54

Yes, in that unlikely case, I will definitely vote for him. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #90

This was 7 years ago. I'm more interested in his approach today nt liskddksil Mar 2019 #5

So 7 years ago he was a Reagan Democrat. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #7

This. JenniferJuniper Mar 2019 #11

Right, don't believe me then... believe me now?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #30

Isn't that what is being said about other candidates, one in particular? George II Mar 2019 #73

Don't bash Joe Biden. I won't stand for it. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #115

I'm just wondering why you skipped right past a 4-month old video of O'Rourke expressing... George II Mar 2019 #116

Yes... why? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #96

So..Beto was for raising retirement age before he is against it? at140 Mar 2019 #52

Beto is starting to flip on a bunch of issues... it does make one wonder. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #94

Here he is four months ago, conveniently skipped over for the 7-year old "news" George II Mar 2019 #74

I'd like to know what he says on that now. David__77 Mar 2019 #6

For some I guess 7-year old videos are easier to find than current ones. Here he is 4 months ago: George II Mar 2019 #75

Not as relevant as the positions Beto advocated for when the spotlight wasn't on him. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #95

He doesn't need to apologize for his teenage writings Lordquinton Mar 2019 #8

hahaha, yes!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #32

His isn't something long forgotten Lordquinton Mar 2019 #42

I'm sure Beto would like people to forget... unfortunately for him, not gonna happen. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #44

Someone Should Let O'Rourke in on a Dirty Little Secret dlk Mar 2019 #9

Yep. teenagebambam Mar 2019 #12

So true!! You can't blame Beto though for being a lil too young to appreciate that fact. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #33

"lawyers are living much longer, so rampartc Mar 2019 #105

Yes but he does say it in a charismatic way, so he has that going for him. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #10

All joking aside, Beto is charismatic... not as much as Bernie, but certainly likeable enough to InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #34

I agree InAbLuEsTaTe, it's just symptomatic to me of the 40-50 year history of T.V. coverage Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #38

I hear ya Uncle Joe.Fortunately, we'll have Pres. Sanders to solve those issues plaguing our country InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #41

... Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #45

If this is not his position any more Ohiogal Mar 2019 #13

Maybe he doesn't panic at every turn Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #16

Yeah, why can't he just delete inconvenient past positions? namahage Mar 2019 #17

Better question... why did Beto suddenly decide he needed to flip-flop on this issue? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #101

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #14

Not really a surprise. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #15

Yeah, and it's not like they care Cha Mar 2019 #18

Whataboutism! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #22

Too bad! Cha Mar 2019 #23

Check out this beautiful family pic! Autumn Mar 2019 #83

Awesome! I really like the guy. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #102

So do I. He and Bernie are #1 in my book. Autumn Mar 2019 #103

As much as I despise Republicans that reject science, TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #43

Your post here and #43 sound like Republican/Randian fantasies MarcA Mar 2019 #56

And your reply is a personal attack. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #57

Here's pragmatism- dawg day Mar 2019 #107

he was a young man in his 30s then JI7 Mar 2019 #19

Being in your thirties is no excuse! mobeau69 Mar 2019 #58

I agree... btw, starting to really like your candidate Mayor Pete, the more I hear him speak. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #92

I think he will do well on the debate stage. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #108

All they have to do is raise the cap Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #81

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #20

No. Just take the cap off the Social Security Tax demosincebirth Mar 2019 #21

This! Lefta Dissenter Mar 2019 #31

Big B$cks would have to pay...Big Bucks demosincebirth Mar 2019 #47

do that and better still--tax ALL income, not just payroll shanny Mar 2019 #53

Nope - scratched off my list Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #24

"lift the cap for withholding" handmade34 Mar 2019 #29

That's the SS tax. demosincebirth Mar 2019 #49

Mine too! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #97

The fear continues to build 4now Mar 2019 #25

I'm ok with working more - sort of given into that Lithos Mar 2019 #35

Well that's all I need to know workinclasszero Mar 2019 #36

I have to admit, it's good to hear someone address the issue with solutions beyond Hoyt Mar 2019 #37

Raise the cap. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #77

Part of solution, but doesn't solve the problem unless you don't give them any additional benefits. Hoyt Mar 2019 #78

Raising the cap is "taxing the rich?" we can do it Mar 2019 #93

I guess he doesn't realize older age folks have a hard time getting hired in good paying jobs kimbutgar Mar 2019 #39

No kidding workinclasszero Mar 2019 #48

Oh hell, no. n/t area51 Mar 2019 #40

Hell No.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #46

This guy is way too conservative for me. He looks good though. jalan48 Mar 2019 #50

We need a wealth tax. Period. Tax them BIGLY onecaliberal Mar 2019 #51

When will Bernie release his taxes? jcgoldie Mar 2019 #55

I'm surprised he hasn't used the "under audit" ruse redstateblues Mar 2019 #61

Bernie HAS released his 2014 tax returns... the ones since the last election are coming out soon. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #99

And he files a financial disclosure every year. It's not lik his finances are some big mystery. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #109

I hear ya... it never ends when it comes to criticizing Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #112

Also never seems to end with... jcgoldie Mar 2019 #114

This is uhmm... 2019 jcgoldie Mar 2019 #113

That's pretty much inside the beltway convetional wisdom Buzz cook Mar 2019 #59

You can always tell who is most threatened by Beto redstateblues Mar 2019 #60

Explain to me why Beto saying he thinks the retirement age should be raised is a threat Autumn Mar 2019 #70

very dumb. ELIMINATE THE CAP + LOWER the age. may the rich pay their fair share. pansypoo53219 Mar 2019 #62

If you eliminate the cap then they should get increased benefits. Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #68

He was running in Texas...not easy for a Dem OBrien Mar 2019 #63

Or his voting record on Russia sanctions. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #71

Easy for him to say. Apparently he does not need to work. Tipperary Mar 2019 #64

Anyone looking for a young man with an impressive background, big ideas and very thoughtful Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #65

Bye, bye, what an idiot. Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #67

Nope. kacekwl Mar 2019 #69

When was that recorded? He certainly looks a LOT younger than I recall. George II Mar 2019 #72

Hmmm...elimate the cap on the wealthy or make working people work longer? doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #79

Interesting. A Beto hit piece provided by a supporter of the candidate most impacted by Beto. LonePirate Mar 2019 #80

How can a video of what Beto actually said be a hit piece? Autumn Mar 2019 #82

How can posting an essay of what someone else actually wrote be a hit piece? Amimnoch Mar 2019 #84

It isn't, never said it was. Bernie actually wrote that. But I will say a fantasy essay and video Autumn Mar 2019 #85

Are you talking about what Beto wrote about murdering children. I give him a pass on that. Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #86

Doh! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #87

Yeah I give the teenager a pass as well. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #98

Yeah that's a non issue. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #100

Beto makes the video and puts it on his site workinclasszero Mar 2019 #104

Nope and nope. Just disqualified from my list of possibles. we can do it Mar 2019 #91

That's a bad choice. Not everyone works in a nice office. dawg day Mar 2019 #106

Both of my working class parents workinclasszero Mar 2019 #110

You know who actually voted to raise the retirement age in 1983? madville Mar 2019 #111