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Hortensis

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32. 2016 was not the first time Sanders ran a splinter candidacy that
Sat Oct 19, 2019, 12:00 PM
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helped elect Republicans and defeated Democrats. He did it in VT when he ran a hopeless campaign for governor, helping the Republican challenger defeat the Democratic incumbent.

Both times the danger of throwing the election to anti-progressive conservatives was obvious and both times he was completely unrepentant when it happened. To this day he says at almost every appearance in various ways that he sees no meaningful difference between the parties. Tweedledum and Tweedledee as he once put it.

Yes, that's bizarre, and his complete blindness or indifference to our liberal principles shocking, but nothing has ever changed his mind about that.

As for third-party down the road, I also haven't heard him say anything other than passionately declare that he will win the Democratic primary. Because, you know, we're no better than Republicans and the nation needs him. One thing I am sure of, somehow large amounts of money keep flowing in and the only way he'll be leaving the national scene will be if he's carried out.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I believe HRC did not name any candidate in the spooky3 Oct 2019 #1
You're right. She didn't. MineralMan Oct 2019 #2
Not to me. For one thing, see other replies in this thread. For another, spooky3 Oct 2019 #26
Hillary did say "she". It's easy to pick which woman out of the 5 she was talking about. n/t zackymilly Oct 2019 #35
I thought it was a very weird thing for her to do. walkingman Oct 2019 #3
Not really. Hillary Clinton was the victim of a similar MineralMan Oct 2019 #6
If Hillary has specific information on Tulsi, she needs to release it ... what is she waiting for?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #15
Well, I'm afraid I have to leave Hillary Clinton to her own devices. MineralMan Oct 2019 #16
I appreciate what you're saying... Hillary should release any and all information she has on Tulsi InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #18
Because it's incredible. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #4
It was certainly a surprise. Hillary must have learned some interesting MineralMan Oct 2019 #9
Hillary should release all info on which her assertions are based as a matter of national security. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #21
Perhaps you should tell her that directly, eh? MineralMan Oct 2019 #23
All I need to know is that Tulsi launched into a "greatest hits" of Righwing/Putinesque talking emulatorloo Oct 2019 #29
Well said, LakeArenal.. I Cha Oct 2019 #17
😉 LakeArenal Oct 2019 #33
So, if the discussion is irrelevant why did you feel the need to DURHAM D Oct 2019 #5
Because it pleased me to do so. MineralMan Oct 2019 #7
I'm not so sure, MM B Stieg Oct 2019 #8
I don't really see Gabbard as a potential third-party candidate, MineralMan Oct 2019 #10
Well that's not exactly dispositive... B Stieg Oct 2019 #13
Not being an insider, I have limited information MineralMan Oct 2019 #14
Good thing you started another thread about it. pintobean Oct 2019 #11
Thanks. I thought this angle on the subject deserved some space. MineralMan Oct 2019 #12
We'll have lots more threads telling us to not start threads IronLionZion Oct 2019 #19
Russia's plot to steal the 2020 election is powerfully relevant. Hortensis Oct 2019 #20
I don't disagree, actually. MineralMan Oct 2019 #22
I knew you didn't. I do feel you're underestimating the threat Hortensis Oct 2019 #27
I hope I'm not underestimating it. MineralMan Oct 2019 #28
Yes to the plus side. And the rest. Hortensis Oct 2019 #30
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2019 #31
2016 was not the first time Sanders ran a splinter candidacy that Hortensis Oct 2019 #32
Totally agree. And I would add that HRC has been correct spooky3 Oct 2019 #25
I think it's bigger than that. Nt BootinUp Oct 2019 #24
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it Gothmog Oct 2019 #34
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