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10. Well as we're on the subject of Joe McCarthy
Mon Oct 21, 2019, 08:14 PM
Oct 2019


Joseph Raymond McCarthy (November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was an American politician who served as a Republican U.S. Senator from the state of Wisconsin from 1947 until his death in 1957. Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public face of a period in the United States in which Cold War tensions fueled fears of widespread Communist subversion.[1] He is known for alleging that numerous Communists and Soviet spies and sympathizers had infiltrated the United States federal government, universities, film industry[citation needed], and elsewhere. Ultimately, the smear tactics that he used led him to be censured by the U.S. Senate. The term "McCarthyism", coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's practices, was soon applied to similar anti-communist activities. Today, the term is used more broadly to mean demagogic, reckless, and unsubstantiated accusations, as well as public attacks on the character or patriotism of political opponents.[2][3]

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McCarthy sought to discredit his critics and political opponents by accusing them of being Communists or communist sympathizers. In the 1950 Maryland Senate election, McCarthy campaigned for John Marshall Butler in his race against four-term incumbent Millard Tydings, with whom McCarthy had been in conflict during the Tydings Committee hearings. In speeches supporting Butler, McCarthy accused Tydings of "protecting Communists" and "shielding traitors." McCarthy's staff was heavily involved in the campaign, and collaborated in the production of a campaign tabloid that contained a composite photograph doctored to make it appear that Tydings was in intimate conversation with Communist leader Earl Russell Browder.[70][71][72] A Senate subcommittee later investigated this election and referred to it as "a despicable, back-street type of campaign," as well as recommending that the use of defamatory literature in a campaign be made grounds for expulsion from the Senate.[73] The pamphlet was clearly labeled a composite. McCarthy said it was "wrong" to distribute it; though staffer Jean Kerr thought it was fine. After he lost the election by almost 40,000 votes, Tydings claimed foul play.

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Even before Welch asked McCarthy, "Have you no sense of decency, sir, at long last?" in the hearings, one of the most prominent attacks on McCarthy's methods was an episode of the television documentary series See It Now, hosted by journalist Edward R. Murrow, which was broadcast on March 9, 1954. Titled "A Report on Senator Joseph R. McCarthy", the episode consisted largely of clips of McCarthy speaking. In these clips, McCarthy accuses the Democratic party of "twenty years of treason", describes the American Civil Liberties Union as "listed as 'a front for, and doing the work of', the Communist Party",[118] and berates and harangues various witnesses, including General Zwicker.[119]

In his conclusion, Murrow said of McCarthy:

No one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating, but the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one, and the junior Senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men—not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.

This is no time for men who oppose Senator McCarthy's methods to keep silent, or for those who approve. We can deny our heritage and our history, but we cannot escape responsibility for the result. There is no way for a citizen of a republic to abdicate his responsibilities. As a nation we have come into our full inheritance at a tender age. We proclaim ourselves, as indeed we are, the defenders of freedom, wherever it continues to exist in the world, but we cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home.

The actions of the junior Senator from Wisconsin have caused alarm and dismay amongst our allies abroad, and given considerable comfort to our enemies. And whose fault is that? Not really his. He didn't create this situation of fear; he merely exploited it—and rather successfully. Cassius was right: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves."[120]


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_McCarthy




Thanks for the thread pnwmom.
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Fully agree. Many people serve country and sacrifice for it. we can do it Oct 2019 #1
Which is why I am bothered by the all-too-frequent PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #2
Larry David agrees: betsuni Oct 2019 #40
I completely agree nini Oct 2019 #51
I served for 20 years, and I really feel kind of embarrassed when someone says that to me. RGinNJ Oct 2019 #61
Basilone thenelm1 Oct 2019 #62
I don't believe I've ever heard of him before. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #67
He should be Alea Oct 2019 #68
Perhaps, PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2019 #71
Basilone was a true hero. nini Oct 2019 #73
For what it's worth, Timothy McVeigh also served served his country in Iraq. George II Oct 2019 #3
+1. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #6
He is the first person I thought of after reading the OP. BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #58
my nephew served 22 yrs. he's a stone cold killer. he told me he liked it. purely anecdotal Kurt V. Oct 2019 #4
Not an anecdotal story Roy Rolling Oct 2019 #47
she hates regime change wars yet willingly participates in them nt msongs Oct 2019 #5
That's not fair. When you join the military, you take orders. Beakybird Oct 2019 #7
if you have principles, you resign in protest. totally fair nt msongs Oct 2019 #9
Resign from the Army? melman Oct 2019 #14
It's called desertion. TomSlick Oct 2019 #44
It's more than frowned upon. sarge43 Oct 2019 #55
I'm with you Sarge. TomSlick Oct 2019 #63
Point. Jirel Oct 2019 #26
Two generals... Flynn & Arnold keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #8
Well as we're on the subject of Joe McCarthy Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #10
Why are you bringing up Joe McCarthy with no comment? kcr Oct 2019 #11
Here is a comment, why give Putin and the Russians power in determining Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #19
Yeah, why should we? n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #34
I asked first but de facto that's the result of baseless accusations and innuendo Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #38
There's plenty of basis for citing Jill Stein as a Russian asset, pnwmom Oct 2019 #41
If one has evidence one should present it, rumor and innuendo does not and has never Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #42
A mountain of evidence has already been presented. You should keep up. pnwmom Oct 2019 #43
I have kept up and I stand by my post. n/t Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #45
A week's pay says you'll be unable to see the irony in your having said that. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #72
Imagine bringing up McCarthy... melman Oct 2019 #12
No one is defending McCarthyism, which isn't a factor here. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #13
It certainly is melman Oct 2019 #15
So then it's true kcr Oct 2019 #16
Uh melman Oct 2019 #17
I think that was brilliant on her part kcr Oct 2019 #18
Oh really? melman Oct 2019 #20
Who is "they" and what is the factor? kcr Oct 2019 #22
Jill Stein's tiny percentage was big enough to swing an election decided by only 78K votes pnwmom Oct 2019 #24
AMAZING who shows up when this issue comes up and NEVER when we are talking Eliot Rosewater Oct 2019 #32
It makes sense if one believes Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #33
Oh yes melman Oct 2019 #46
That's an excellent observation melman. Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #48
Doesn't matter Bev54 Oct 2019 #53
You don't even know what the word "asset" means. It does not mean agent, spy, or traitor. pnwmom Oct 2019 #23
Yep kcr Oct 2019 #28
That's very convenient for you melman Oct 2019 #75
Too bad the truth doesn't fit your argument. pnwmom Oct 2019 #81
And you're just playing word games melman Oct 2019 #82
LOLOL. Words have definitions. You're stuck with this one. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #83
Calling someone an "asset" does not mean you're accusing them of being complicitous with Russians. LAS14 Oct 2019 #78
Word games melman Oct 2019 #79
The point is, what was Hillary intending to say? I guess you just don't care, right? nt LAS14 Oct 2019 #80
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Recommended. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #21
Lots of Trump Cultists served the country. Jirel Oct 2019 #25
There's also the question of why they joined up. luvtheGWN Oct 2019 #64
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Lee Harvey Oswald was in the Marine Corps RockRaven Oct 2019 #30
tRump served the country SCVDem Oct 2019 #31
I thank those who serve their country... Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #35
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18.2 million people in the U.S. are veterans. 19 percent of police officers are veterans dalton99a Oct 2019 #39
So, riddle me this Lithos Oct 2019 #49
Well it doesn't exactly reek of sincerity. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #60
So many things wrong with it Lithos Oct 2019 #66
Can you imagine war hero Sen. John Kerry in a ridiculous pose like that? n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #70
Now I get it ejbr Oct 2019 #50
She served her country honorably in all areas of service. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #52
They did until they didn't. n/t pnwmom Oct 2019 #59
And switched sides upon going back to civilian life Zambero Oct 2019 #77
Word. BadgerMom Oct 2019 #54
Just one factor mcar Oct 2019 #56
I read posts on You Tube after watching Bill Maher "Real Time" BigmanPigman Oct 2019 #57
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I love your consistent common sense, pnwmom. nt LAS14 Oct 2019 #74
True that!! Peacetrain Oct 2019 #76
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