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eilen

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120. Actually he never was a Democrat

Reply to scheming daemons (Original post)

Mon Oct 21, 2019, 10:17 PM

Oct 2019

and once the Democratic Party stops being useful to him he will shed it like he did after Vermont's primaries.

Trump used the Republican Party in the same way. He never believed in its ideals (other than lower taxes). But smaller government (his is only smaller because a. he is lazy and b. people keep quitting on him)-- he wants to expand it -- The Space Force?

So I don't see Bernie as a Democrat. I see him as a person who needs a party to run for President. I see him as a political celebrity and that he has a lot of fans. Unfortunately, when you criticize a celebrity, their fans descend upon you and make very hostile accusations, call you names and encourage others to do the same.

It is really hard to get off that celebrity train and that is why, I suspect that he did not retire his campaign right after Super Tuesday in 2016.

I like the guy. I think he has interesting ideas and is passionate for the working man. However he is not the candidate for me. My vote is going to someone who is not a populist.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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BREAKING: Bernie backs up Gabbard (This, to me, completely disqualifies Bernie) [View all] scheming daemons Oct 2019 OP

So much this. LakeArenal Oct 2019 #1

Riiiiiiiigghhht!! LMAO!! Good one... comparing Bernie to tRumpy!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #33

That's not a laughing matter. George II Oct 2019 #40

Villifying bernie for defending tulsi Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #116

That's not the point, but whatever. George II Oct 2019 #119

Its all quite hilarious Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #123

It cracked me up!! Such outrage!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #134

agreed jimlup Oct 2019 #50

Who suggested that Tulsi is a foreign asset? lapucelle Oct 2019 #55

He was busy getting the message out. George II Oct 2019 #109

+10,000 Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #118

Thanks T!! Once again, only Bernie deserves to be trashed by some... InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #131

Being in the military is a not an immunization from advancing positions that are not in the best.. Cha Oct 2019 #130

Muy bien mi amiga❣️ LakeArenal Oct 2019 #132

Excellente! I messed up in my previous Cha Oct 2019 #133

He was never on my radar so I hope this is it for him and he just goes away..n/t monmouth4 Oct 2019 #2

Agreed. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #3

Stay tuned, will get way worse Eliot Rosewater Oct 2019 #34

I totally, completely agree. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2019 #4

Not exactly unpredictable given the lingering animosity between Sanders and Clinton... hlthe2b Oct 2019 #5

Good for him melman Oct 2019 #6

It is not. She has been trying to subvert the Democratic party from the start. scheming daemons Oct 2019 #12

Yes it is melman Oct 2019 #23

They certainly stayed silent when Trump and the Republicans were lobbing insults Hillary's way. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #41

IKR? StarfishSaver Oct 2019 #43

Did you have a problem with Beto's statement? melman Oct 2019 #46

Because of course they did. Cha Oct 2019 #94

Like when the Republicans were unfairly attacking Hillary? mcar Oct 2019 #106

Remember the line in the first debate? BlueWI Oct 2019 #170

One line mcar Oct 2019 #171

Nah. BlueWI Oct 2019 #172

Aww, isn't that sweet? mcar Oct 2019 #173

All good, grammar policing internet stranger. BlueWI Oct 2019 #174

she has never been unfairtly attacked, ever obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #146

LOL all she's gone on to do since is 100% prove Hillary's point! Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #166

bernie/tulsi 2020? nt msongs Oct 2019 #7

Yup - it's been that way at our "sister site" for at least a year -- progree Oct 2019 #35

+10 ... "sister site".... reACTIONary Oct 2019 #48

I think next time I'll say "sibling site" so it doesn't sound like I'm equating women with the progree Oct 2019 #56

Oh lord. Jirel Oct 2019 #68

We don't need anyone to tell us what jpr Cha Oct 2019 #85

Many of us are very familiar with the founders mcar Oct 2019 #108

Well feel free to weigh in on this thread and tell them how you feel progree Oct 2019 #128

hahhahahahhaahha yeah, no, not stopping bashing JPR obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #147

They think Hillary Clinton murdered Seth Rich. betsuni Oct 2019 #148

The purge of past posts on JPR was done to hide revmclaren Oct 2019 #152

"...unaminous view that Russiagate is a hoax..." Scurrilous Oct 2019 #95

More like our "red-headed stepsister" site, I think. MineralMan Oct 2019 #162

Michael Flynn served in uniform Otto Lidenbrock Oct 2019 #8

... Scurrilous Oct 2019 #9

Another day another thread bashing bernie Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #10

Maybe he shouldn't be siding with those trying to subvert the Democratic party scheming daemons Oct 2019 #14

Maybe people should provide actual evidence when accusing Democratic figures of subverting Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #17

Lots of evidence has been presented... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #20

Because it doesnt exist. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #22

Google is your friend, NT sheshe2 Oct 2019 #28

Google tells me nothing about tulsi being a russian assett. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #83

It tells you a lot about her history. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #86

Try making an accusation with evidence as part of the accusation. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #96

First of all, nobody called Tulsi a Russian asset. lapucelle Oct 2019 #125

Second of all... lapucelle Oct 2019 #126

Besides repeatedly going on Tucker Carlson to bash Democrats? DanTex Oct 2019 #72

This +1 LongtimeAZDem Oct 2019 #154

Are you referring to the October 12, 2019 New York Times story lapucelle Oct 2019 #74

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #76

Thank you, lapucelle! Perfect place to post Cha Oct 2019 #89

Thread winner. nt Maven Oct 2019 #127

Gabbard isn't the only one who has subverted the Democratic process Quixote1818 Oct 2019 #59

As you knew, a week later she said it wasn't rigged. The DNC rigging the election is a debunked CT. betsuni Oct 2019 #66

Thanks for that.. I thought I remembered Cha Oct 2019 #92

A shame we still have to talk about that stupid rigging crap. On DU! betsuni Oct 2019 #122

Exactly.. we don't have time to Cha Oct 2019 #124

The same crowd that cried 'rigged' before revmclaren Oct 2019 #156

Well obviously Bernie does not agree with your characterization. totodeinhere Oct 2019 #63

How true Tiggeroshi ritapria Oct 2019 #25

I myself am not a tulsi fan. But attacking a democratic congressperson Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #104

I agree... Hillary must have good reasons for withholding that evidence. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #135

He deserves it. trueblue2007 Oct 2019 #101

Defending her country has NOTHING to do with where she stands on the issues, or if she knowingly or still_one Oct 2019 #11

Regardless nobody has provided any actual evidence in their atackson her. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #13

Lots of evidence has been presented.... scheming daemons Oct 2019 #18

So we get hides? sheshe2 Oct 2019 #30

"Try google" Jake Stern Oct 2019 #49

Sorry. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #54

If the links would risk a hide. They are likely not reliable. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #99

You funny. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #107

It is ridiculous to villify bernie for defending tulsi Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #113

I am not talking about Bernie. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #117

My confusion. The OP is about Bernie. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #136

This message was self-deleted by its author Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #84

Yup, my one and only hide EVER here was answering a reply like that obamanut2012 Oct 2019 #149

Oh this is what did it for you? Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #15

ikr. ha! Kurt V. Oct 2019 #32

I got a hearty chuckle at that assertion Hassin Bin Sober! Devil Child Oct 2019 #88

Holy Shit. ismnotwasm Oct 2019 #16

I hope you see it just as bad when Mayor Pete, Beto O Rourke and Booker also gave strong defenses of Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #140

Not a good move on Sen Sanders' partpart mcar Oct 2019 #19

Sanders top campaign staff will be working for Gabbard in a couple of months. NT TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #21

I don't care for Bernie or Tulsi but he's right. AkFemDem Oct 2019 #24

This isn't a me-too moment Taraman Oct 2019 #26

Bad call. redqueen Oct 2019 #27

One spoiler defends another. nt Maven Oct 2019 #29

He doesn't want to lose his share of those voters to her, heh. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #47

Lieutenant General Michael Flynn served his country too. delisen Oct 2019 #31

This is not about Gabbard. Like Trump, he still can't get over Hillary. beastie boy Oct 2019 #36

It's a little puzzling why Bernie found it necessary to support a competitor Enoki33 Oct 2019 #37

She doesn't have to be complicitous to be an asset. LAS14 Oct 2019 #69

I wouldn't expect anything less from him. W_HAMILTON Oct 2019 #38

Wh0 said "asset?" nt delisen Oct 2019 #39

Clinton & Pelosi: sharpshooters without guns. delisen Oct 2019 #42

None of the parties involved in this incident will be the nominee. Aaron Pereira Oct 2019 #44

The only people who are suggesting that Tulsi is a foreign asset lapucelle Oct 2019 #45

+10 nt reACTIONary Oct 2019 #52

The Russians are "grooming" her ritapria Oct 2019 #58

It certainly doesn't mean "Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset". lapucelle Oct 2019 #80

IOW.. Hillary never said TG Cha Oct 2019 #100

Here's the direct quote. lapucelle Oct 2019 #112

Thank you for the link! This caught my eye.. Cha Oct 2019 #121

Thank you Bernie. pintobean Oct 2019 #51

Well, he did go on VT Public Radio and blame Sec Clinton tishaLA Oct 2019 #53

This is Bernie leading. Thank you for standing up to the ridiculous... Joe941 Oct 2019 #57

LOL. I have a feeling that this tweet won't age very well. Maven Oct 2019 #60

He was right then pintobean Oct 2019 #65

Nah. Maven Oct 2019 #70

Bingo...Bernie is not a Democrat... pbmus Oct 2019 #75

Or is he a Russian asset? Joe941 Oct 2019 #142

Now is the winter of our discontent made glorious summer by this son of Vermont... LanternWaste Oct 2019 #144

Have you seen Trump's rallies? Turin_C3PO Oct 2019 #71

What is an asset? Mike Nelson Oct 2019 #61

Assets are persons within organisations or countries being spied upon who provide information Celerity Oct 2019 #82

Bernie has just stepped in a pile of crap... pbmus Oct 2019 #62

Queue surprise. nt Blue_true Oct 2019 #64

Apparently Bernie doesn't understand what an asset is any better... LAS14 Oct 2019 #67

First thing I thought. betsuni Oct 2019 #78

Russian assets here, Russian assets there, Russian assets everywhere! Devil Child Oct 2019 #103

That is correct. Please read the link I included in the post you're answering. nt LAS14 Oct 2019 #150

Bernie, he is such a f...ing commie. roody Oct 2019 #73

OMG Soviet asset!!!! Devil Child Oct 2019 #90

not surpised..... chillfactor Oct 2019 #77

BS history is repeating itself again empedocles Oct 2019 #79

That is one weak defense. kcr Oct 2019 #81

Good for Sen. Sanders! Devil Child Oct 2019 #87

Bernie is correct. I would add that extraordinary claims need at least a little proof. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #91

I trust people who know what they are talking about...Bernie doesn't pbmus Oct 2019 #93

Maybe a condiment. Say Mayo, but no lettuce, tomato or onion let alone... JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #102

Are you a Wendy's commercial...? pbmus Oct 2019 #105

Nah, just reusing/stealing an another old Dem guy's line. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #115

For the record tiredtoo Oct 2019 #97

Beto too Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #110

That's different because reasons. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #157

First comment: "Mike Flynn says, 'Hold my Russian flag, Bernie.'" betsuni Oct 2019 #98

lol! Cha Oct 2019 #167

fully agree. I'm done with him. EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #111

I'm sorry but JUST being a vet is no guarantee of a sterling character. BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2019 #114

Actually he never was a Democrat eilen Oct 2019 #120

Being in the military is a not an immunization from advancing positions that are not in the best.. Cha Oct 2019 #129

Yeah, this is it, the thing that costs Sanders DU's unflinching support!!! Anders8 Oct 2019 #137

.. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #141

Rachel was right, it's 2016 all over again. Tarheel_Dem Oct 2019 #138

It's interesting that only the men defend her. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #139

Marriane Williamson did too. scheming daemons Oct 2019 #153

Birds of a feather. LexVegas Oct 2019 #143

Bernie... myohmy2 Oct 2019 #145

Once again, "asset" does not mean the person is explicitly cooperating. LAS14 Oct 2019 #151

this is where bernie shows he is not the leader we need. mopinko Oct 2019 #155

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #158

So you think she is a foreign asset? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #159

Oh, for fuck's sake. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #160

Bernie appears to be getting more irrelevant daily, MineralMan Oct 2019 #161

A "tool" can be considered to be an "asset" by the person MineralMan Oct 2019 #163

Hasn't been a good couple of days for the campaign, has it? Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #164

Agreed... There's no gray area with Tulsi Blue_Tires Oct 2019 #165

Exactly! Cha Oct 2019 #168

This whole topic is a pointless distraction from winning an election. BlueWI Oct 2019 #169

K&R Gothmog Oct 2019 #175