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Autumn

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85. It isn't, never said it was. Bernie actually wrote that. But I will say a fantasy essay and video

Wed Mar 20, 2019, 11:00 AM

Mar 2019

of an elected Democrat running for president saying raise retirement age and pay more into SS are vastly different things. Even if it's not his current thinking it's a great Republican ad for the GE if he makes it that far, and they will use it against him. Make no mistake, that's what they do . nuff said is right.

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Beto O'rourke: raise retirement age and pay a greater percentage of your income to Social Security [View all] Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 OP

Okay, he's ruled himself out. Doodley Mar 2019 #1

Yup, right out of the gate, his 1st policy proposal... stick a fork in him, Beto's done. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #26

That is NOT "his 1st policy proposal", that's a video from 7 years ago, here is his current position George II Mar 2019 #76

How convenient. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #88

Wtf?! Ohiogal Mar 2019 #2

Ytf! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #3

Never seen a campaign implode so quickly!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #27

Never saw a 7-year old video used to misrepresent a candidate's position today. George II Mar 2019 #89

It would be very hard for me to vote for this guy. nt Nay Mar 2019 #4

Zero chance after that flubbed proposal. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #28

If he is the nominee, I will vote for him. Period. 33taw Mar 2019 #54

Yes, in that unlikely case, I will definitely vote for him. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #90

This was 7 years ago. I'm more interested in his approach today nt liskddksil Mar 2019 #5

So 7 years ago he was a Reagan Democrat. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #7

This. JenniferJuniper Mar 2019 #11

Right, don't believe me then... believe me now?! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #30

Isn't that what is being said about other candidates, one in particular? George II Mar 2019 #73

Don't bash Joe Biden. I won't stand for it. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #115

I'm just wondering why you skipped right past a 4-month old video of O'Rourke expressing... George II Mar 2019 #116

Yes... why? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #96

So..Beto was for raising retirement age before he is against it? at140 Mar 2019 #52

Beto is starting to flip on a bunch of issues... it does make one wonder. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #94

Here he is four months ago, conveniently skipped over for the 7-year old "news" George II Mar 2019 #74

I'd like to know what he says on that now. David__77 Mar 2019 #6

For some I guess 7-year old videos are easier to find than current ones. Here he is 4 months ago: George II Mar 2019 #75

Not as relevant as the positions Beto advocated for when the spotlight wasn't on him. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #95

He doesn't need to apologize for his teenage writings Lordquinton Mar 2019 #8

hahaha, yes!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #32

His isn't something long forgotten Lordquinton Mar 2019 #42

I'm sure Beto would like people to forget... unfortunately for him, not gonna happen. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #44

Someone Should Let O'Rourke in on a Dirty Little Secret dlk Mar 2019 #9

Yep. teenagebambam Mar 2019 #12

So true!! You can't blame Beto though for being a lil too young to appreciate that fact. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #33

"lawyers are living much longer, so rampartc Mar 2019 #105

Yes but he does say it in a charismatic way, so he has that going for him. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #10

All joking aside, Beto is charismatic... not as much as Bernie, but certainly likeable enough to InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #34

I agree InAbLuEsTaTe, it's just symptomatic to me of the 40-50 year history of T.V. coverage Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #38

I hear ya Uncle Joe.Fortunately, we'll have Pres. Sanders to solve those issues plaguing our country InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #41

... Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #45

If this is not his position any more Ohiogal Mar 2019 #13

Maybe he doesn't panic at every turn Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #16

Yeah, why can't he just delete inconvenient past positions? namahage Mar 2019 #17

Better question... why did Beto suddenly decide he needed to flip-flop on this issue? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #101

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #14

Not really a surprise. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #15

Yeah, and it's not like they care Cha Mar 2019 #18

Whataboutism! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #22

Too bad! Cha Mar 2019 #23

Check out this beautiful family pic! Autumn Mar 2019 #83

Awesome! I really like the guy. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #102

So do I. He and Bernie are #1 in my book. Autumn Mar 2019 #103

As much as I despise Republicans that reject science, TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #43

Your post here and #43 sound like Republican/Randian fantasies MarcA Mar 2019 #56

And your reply is a personal attack. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #57

Here's pragmatism- dawg day Mar 2019 #107

he was a young man in his 30s then JI7 Mar 2019 #19

Being in your thirties is no excuse! mobeau69 Mar 2019 #58

I agree... btw, starting to really like your candidate Mayor Pete, the more I hear him speak. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #92

I think he will do well on the debate stage. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #108

All they have to do is raise the cap Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #81

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No. Just take the cap off the Social Security Tax demosincebirth Mar 2019 #21

This! Lefta Dissenter Mar 2019 #31

Big B$cks would have to pay...Big Bucks demosincebirth Mar 2019 #47

do that and better still--tax ALL income, not just payroll shanny Mar 2019 #53

Nope - scratched off my list Fiendish Thingy Mar 2019 #24

"lift the cap for withholding" handmade34 Mar 2019 #29

That's the SS tax. demosincebirth Mar 2019 #49

Mine too! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #97

The fear continues to build 4now Mar 2019 #25

I'm ok with working more - sort of given into that Lithos Mar 2019 #35

Well that's all I need to know workinclasszero Mar 2019 #36

I have to admit, it's good to hear someone address the issue with solutions beyond Hoyt Mar 2019 #37

Raise the cap. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #77

Part of solution, but doesn't solve the problem unless you don't give them any additional benefits. Hoyt Mar 2019 #78

Raising the cap is "taxing the rich?" we can do it Mar 2019 #93

I guess he doesn't realize older age folks have a hard time getting hired in good paying jobs kimbutgar Mar 2019 #39

No kidding workinclasszero Mar 2019 #48

Oh hell, no. n/t area51 Mar 2019 #40

Hell No.... LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #46

This guy is way too conservative for me. He looks good though. jalan48 Mar 2019 #50

We need a wealth tax. Period. Tax them BIGLY onecaliberal Mar 2019 #51

When will Bernie release his taxes? jcgoldie Mar 2019 #55

I'm surprised he hasn't used the "under audit" ruse redstateblues Mar 2019 #61

Bernie HAS released his 2014 tax returns... the ones since the last election are coming out soon. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #99

And he files a financial disclosure every year. It's not lik his finances are some big mystery. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #109

I hear ya... it never ends when it comes to criticizing Bernie. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #112

Also never seems to end with... jcgoldie Mar 2019 #114

This is uhmm... 2019 jcgoldie Mar 2019 #113

That's pretty much inside the beltway convetional wisdom Buzz cook Mar 2019 #59

You can always tell who is most threatened by Beto redstateblues Mar 2019 #60

Explain to me why Beto saying he thinks the retirement age should be raised is a threat Autumn Mar 2019 #70

very dumb. ELIMINATE THE CAP + LOWER the age. may the rich pay their fair share. pansypoo53219 Mar 2019 #62

If you eliminate the cap then they should get increased benefits. Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #68

He was running in Texas...not easy for a Dem OBrien Mar 2019 #63

Or his voting record on Russia sanctions. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #71

Easy for him to say. Apparently he does not need to work. Tipperary Mar 2019 #64

Anyone looking for a young man with an impressive background, big ideas and very thoughtful Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #65

Bye, bye, what an idiot. Nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #66

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2019 #67

Nope. kacekwl Mar 2019 #69

When was that recorded? He certainly looks a LOT younger than I recall. George II Mar 2019 #72

Hmmm...elimate the cap on the wealthy or make working people work longer? doompatrol39 Mar 2019 #79

Interesting. A Beto hit piece provided by a supporter of the candidate most impacted by Beto. LonePirate Mar 2019 #80

How can a video of what Beto actually said be a hit piece? Autumn Mar 2019 #82

How can posting an essay of what someone else actually wrote be a hit piece? Amimnoch Mar 2019 #84

It isn't, never said it was. Bernie actually wrote that. But I will say a fantasy essay and video Autumn Mar 2019 #85

Are you talking about what Beto wrote about murdering children. I give him a pass on that. Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #86

Doh! Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #87

Yeah I give the teenager a pass as well. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #98

Yeah that's a non issue. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #100

Beto makes the video and puts it on his site workinclasszero Mar 2019 #104

Nope and nope. Just disqualified from my list of possibles. we can do it Mar 2019 #91

That's a bad choice. Not everyone works in a nice office. dawg day Mar 2019 #106

Both of my working class parents workinclasszero Mar 2019 #110

You know who actually voted to raise the retirement age in 1983? madville Mar 2019 #111