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betsuni

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141. That is disqualifying.

Reply to JoeOtterbein (Original post)

Wed Oct 23, 2019, 05:05 AM

Oct 2019

Republicans are the enemy. Republicans hate America. Republicans are the racists. As everybody except Republicans and those who know nothing about American politics knows.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Business Insider: Joe Biden suggested Bill Clinton's impeachment was a 'partisan lynching' in 1998 [View all] JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 OP

Oh.. you think you have a "Gotcha" on Cha Oct 2019 #1

Explain how it's different melman Oct 2019 #16

It's not... and even Joe knows it!! LOL, obviously why Joe felt InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #178

LOL, explain how it's different. SMC22307 Oct 2019 #60

Context, for one. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #65

C'mon, stop making excuses. Just admit it was a poor word choice on Biden's part. SMC22307 Oct 2019 #70

Nah, I prefer to deal in the real world. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #72

The defense of it, Biden fans twisting themselves into pretzels... SMC22307 Oct 2019 #76

And people still tell me there is no such thing as Biden Apologists, lol Baclava Oct 2019 #125

It sure is!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #210

And.... AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #221

Nadler said it...Meeks said it, Rangel said it, Davis said it...this is the flag you want to fly? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #226

////////////////////THIS//////////////////////////// at140 Oct 2019 #105

It was poor word choice on Biden's part... that was easy!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #179

Told ya so! SMC22307 Oct 2019 #202

Hahaha!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #209

Joe Biden "suggested" lapucelle Oct 2019 #64

Mahalo, lapucelle.. trump's "lynching" was a "dog whistle" Cha Oct 2019 #73

False equivalence helped to put Trump in the White House. lapucelle Oct 2019 #83

Oh Gawd Yes.. "False Equivalency". Perfect description Cha Oct 2019 #89

No one is trying to give Fat Nixon cover. But if one old white guy... SMC22307 Oct 2019 #87

Apparently you can!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #227

Exactly. There's a big difference the way Biden used the term vs. the Racist-in-Chief. Hoyt Oct 2019 #112

Not seeing a difference Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #111

Look again.. it's a "False Equivalency" and if Cha Oct 2019 #116

Both are white men using "lynching" in a context where no one is any danger of Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #124

trump uses it as a "dog whistle".. Biden Cha Oct 2019 #129

Clinton wasn't lynched, politically, metaphorically, or otherwise Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #130

Very inappropriate of Joe... how's that not obvious?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #213

Biden never said that the Clinton impeachment was a lynching,, lapucelle Oct 2019 #143

Wait.. what? Biden Cha Oct 2019 #145

It's a poor choice of words no matter who says it. Why can't we just agree that totodeinhere Oct 2019 #236

3 Black Congressmen said it, too.. how's your "false equivalency" on that? Cha Oct 2019 #138

Let's see, do people who have been victims of lynch mobs Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #177

Rep. Nadler called the actions against Pres. Clinton a lynch mob in '98 AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #174

If he said it, then yes. Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #176

He did..as did several others.....that isn't a difficult concept. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #189

Really? I have singled out Biden? Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #198

This message was self-deleted by its author AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #219

Whose post are you quoting? Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #229

Replied to the wrong post...my bad. AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #234

Understood Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #235

Excellent points... case closed!! Why Joe needed to apologize. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #185

How about Reps, Meeks, Davis, Rangel...also Nadler and McDermott? AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #187

"lynching" is a metaphor here treestar Oct 2019 #162

We are not discussing a comparison of the crimes Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #180

Thought that was pretty clear... apparently not. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #188

It's not "inappropriate" treestar Oct 2019 #193

I am not trying to "smear" anyone Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #197

It was wrong, because there is a hearing, due process treestar Oct 2019 #207

Seems to me just as inappropriate Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #230

Nadler said re Pres. Clinton it was a lynch mob...severeal times... AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #222

What's your point - to bash Biden or justify trump's comment this morning? George II Oct 2019 #2

I'm certain you feel the same way if Bernie or Tulsi said it. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #5

they have made their own beds EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #10

Did that bed-making involve the use of the term "lynching"? (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2019 #101

just as long as no one praised Assad. EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #123

We'll never know - neither did say it. George II Oct 2019 #11

Thanks for backing me on this! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #17

So in answer to my earlier question, I guess.... George II Oct 2019 #21

I don't follow orders or answer questions, I care not to follow. Sorry! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #27

You seem to forget that I answered your questions TWICE in this thread earlier tonight: George II Oct 2019 #40

Ok then. First answer my question: JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #42

I already did answer that one. George II Oct 2019 #47

Missed it. So, you are saying you would feel the same if Bernie or Tulsi said it. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #49

So where can I find your answers, even in that earlier thread? George II Oct 2019 #52

Still waiting. George II Oct 2019 #79

Sorry. What was your question again? JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #82

As we used to say on newsnet, "RTFF" - but I'll help you out - see posts #40 and #2 in this thread. George II Oct 2019 #88

Are you saying you don't have a simple question? JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #94

Let's try again, the questions that you didn't answer (for some reason or another) are in: George II Oct 2019 #98

Still waiting. George II Oct 2019 #113

That's a creative way to rationalize holding others to a higher standard than yourself. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #157

A bunch of deflecting BS Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #30

+1000! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #43

See. reply 29. 1998 was a very different time, the comparison was made more casually, highplainsdem Oct 2019 #81

Seriously? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #194

Yeah I'm sure voters will know the supposed difference Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #217

One of many!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #181

This is such bullshit melman Oct 2019 #39

Cheap shots? George II Oct 2019 #54

Yeah melman Oct 2019 #58

"Dumb" refers to an inability to speak. George II Oct 2019 #59

I don't know if you've heard melman Oct 2019 #62

"Dumb" also refers to stupid and showing a lack of intelligence. SMC22307 Oct 2019 #66

So I guess melman is taking a "cheap shot" at me.... George II Oct 2019 #68

Just admit you are wrong. SMC22307 Oct 2019 #74

I will when I am. BTW, read the OP again, Biden "suggested". That's like "it has been reported...." George II Oct 2019 #78

Read the exact quote from Biden's mouth... SMC22307 Oct 2019 #97

I knew that outrage was going to backfire. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2019 #104

But hey, it was 1998... it's all good! SMC22307 Oct 2019 #110

Like Nadler, Meeks, Davis, Rangel, McDermott.... AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #173

He said the gif was dumb Bradshaw3 Oct 2019 #220

How is it hard for you to understand? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #192

Did I EVER say it was inappropriate for Biden to say it? George II Oct 2019 #196

So you don't think it was inappropriate? That's a whole new problem, then. Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #203

Why all the questions that you essentially answer in posing the question. So tell me... George II Oct 2019 #204

"So you don't think it's inappropriate?" is NOWHERE near "Did you stop beating your wife?" Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #214

Pretty simple!! Joe has no excuse... which, presumably, is why he felt he had to apologize. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #211

Right? Cuthbert Allgood Oct 2019 #215

Gotta give Joe credit for admitting he was wrong. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #223

Pretty simple!! Joe has no excuse... which, presumably, is why he felt he had to apologize. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #212

Actually, Business Insider said that Joe Biden suggested something lapucelle Oct 2019 #75

Yeah, Joe showed once again why he's not the best candidate to take on tRump. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #183

Really? And your candidate is the best one to take on Trump? Don't forget the N word that he used. Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #195

You didn't answer his question. Cha Oct 2019 #12

Sorry, but I grew up in a family of Nine children. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #18

Geoge asked you questions.. he didn't "order" you. Cha Oct 2019 #19

George did not order me. And I still refuse... JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #22

lol.. your Big "Gotcha" Fizzled Poorly.. Cha Oct 2019 #31

What "gotcha"? I'm just posting the truth of what Joe said. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #41

Hey Cha- he's used to his attacks fizzling. Happens a lot. redstateblues Oct 2019 #51

Hey Aloha, redstateblues! Cha Oct 2019 #55

Silly. You asked George a question. treestar Oct 2019 #165

I grew up in a family of six. I always obeyed my mother and father and respected them. George II Oct 2019 #50

I wouldn't. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #23

Please...Bernie actually said the "N" word - or have you conveniently forgotten? Skya Rhen Oct 2019 #44

Daily Caller? melman Oct 2019 #48

Mediaite isn't the Daily Caller. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #61

Who said it was? melman Oct 2019 #63

I'm not seeing an edit. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #67

I didn't melman Oct 2019 #77

Really? George II Oct 2019 #95

Yes melman Oct 2019 #147

Oh, melman. betsuni Oct 2019 #142

You know what I like about you bestuni? melman Oct 2019 #148

Authentic opinions are not "zingers." betsuni Oct 2019 #149

Oh melman Oct 2019 #151

No no no. I don't post opera. Ballet or classical music. betsuni Oct 2019 #152

Oh wait, I am wrong. I have posted opera! betsuni Oct 2019 #159

Skya, be prepared for "the Circle Game". George II Oct 2019 #92

lol Cha Oct 2019 #132

Fail. Writers often use quotes around words they want to distance themselves from. SMC22307 Oct 2019 #107

Being able to see that difference treestar Oct 2019 #166

That I actually agree with. I still think "lynching" was a poor word choice on his part... SMC22307 Oct 2019 #200

I agree. The essence of the definition of "lynching" is treestar Oct 2019 #205

Excellent point. (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2019 #206

Is the OP going to ask Sanders to Apologize for THIS?!! Cha Oct 2019 #131

I'd respond to rather than answer the question also. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #156

They didn't treestar Oct 2019 #164

Good questions, George. Seems to think Cha Oct 2019 #7

Don't forget we are in a primary. You can't expect everyone else, to go in the same direction. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #20

Wrong, we should ALL go in the same direction, but just use different roads to get there. George II Oct 2019 #28

I like that way of putting it SterlingPound Oct 2019 #35

Well said George!!! still_one Oct 2019 #186

I think his point is that both are wrong Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #126

Morals and ethics are more complicated than that tirebiter Oct 2019 #140

I know that people only seem to be forgiving of that which they would not forgive Miguelito Loveless Oct 2019 #182

That's always been my impression as well. Rollo Oct 2019 #3

I think Bill probably counted on Congress acting as gentlemen... Rollo Oct 2019 #6

A partisan lynching is different than a lynching. apcalc Oct 2019 #4

I refuse to punish our candidates for trump's wrongdoing EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #8

dupe redstateblues Oct 2019 #9

oh, ffs! Anyway, another democratic congressman who allegedly used the same term ecstatic Oct 2019 #13

Context is important. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #14

Of course it's different and anyone can see that Cha Oct 2019 #25

See reply 29. Very different time in 1998, with that word used even by black Congressmen to describe highplainsdem Oct 2019 #37

Your Biden bashing on this site only makes Biden supporters dig in. It doesn't help Bernie redstateblues Oct 2019 #15

Yup Green Line Oct 2019 #24

More than 20 years ago, Biden said ... left-of-center2012 Oct 2019 #26

Very selective editing, Joe. That article also refers to Jerry Nadler using that word at the time, highplainsdem Oct 2019 #29

Joe Biden isn't a white supremacist or supported by such, trump is both. The OP is a vague... George II Oct 2019 #33

Sorry I did not edit to your satisfaction. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #38

Are you going to demand that the black Congressmen who made the same comparison in 1998 highplainsdem Oct 2019 #45

I see you didn't get an answer. But then again, some refuse to answer questions: George II Oct 2019 #117

Intentionally ignoring context and making false equivalences... TwilightZone Oct 2019 #46

Are you going to ask the 3 Black Congressman who said it to apologize,too? Cha Oct 2019 #134

1998 was a different time? SMC22307 Oct 2019 #114

Spin spin spin.... got anything else?? Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #32

This seems fitting... TexasTowelie Oct 2019 #102

A partisan lynching for the cover up of a blow job LakeArenal Oct 2019 #34

Precisely! Mahalo, LakeArenal! Cha Oct 2019 #57

Well your opinion of me is worth more than the whole topic!! LakeArenal Oct 2019 #172

Mahalo, LA.. and you're absolutely right about what's going Cha Oct 2019 #224

According to some in this thread, they're exactly the same thing. TwilightZone Oct 2019 #71

That makes it worse. Diminishing the word to describe... SMC22307 Oct 2019 #118

Once again. They were after Bill for covering up the bj LakeArenal Oct 2019 #171

Nothing in my post suggests otherwise. SMC22307 Oct 2019 #201

For some people the world is black and white and they refuse to see the gray. Eko Oct 2019 #36

It was a mistake that... zaj Oct 2019 #53

+1000! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #56

See reply 29. The lynching comparison was made by black Democratic congressmen in 1998, too, highplainsdem Oct 2019 #80

Clarence Thomas called his hearing a high-tech lynching. betsuni Oct 2019 #85

Great point! highplainsdem Oct 2019 #100

Well said, highplainsdem! It's a false Cha Oct 2019 #135

Are you asking the 3 Black Dem Congressmen to "Apologize", too, zaj? Cha Oct 2019 #136

I'm saying that great leadership... zaj Oct 2019 #169

Well said! loyalsister Oct 2019 #146

this was 21 years ago pnwpolicy Oct 2019 #69

You do not have to use desperate, inaccurate attacks on Biden to support your preferred candidate. emmaverybo Oct 2019 #86

Maybe that's part of the reason why Joe has lost his mo'... but, there's more to it than that. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #184

I'm sick of the bothsiderism. Biden was wrong then too. However we don't need to spend time tulipsandroses Oct 2019 #84

Thanks for your many good, and very well and completely expressed, points. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #90

Agreed TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #99

"Twisting in the wind," eh? SMC22307 Oct 2019 #120

I am really gettig sick of THIS sh't being posted by so-called Democrats! democratisphere Oct 2019 #91

I'm a Dem since voting for Mondale. I'm sure you are too! JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #109

Why? People need to be keep informed on legit news, mud-slinging, SMC22307 Oct 2019 #121

Yeah. It's kinda like promoting Medicare for all with no way to pay for it democratisphere Oct 2019 #137

It's not like that at all, except in your head. (n/t) SMC22307 Oct 2019 #199

Oh. I forgot that money grows on trees and when you are running democratisphere Oct 2019 #231

EXACTLY!! Cha Oct 2019 #133

Squirrel!!!! Freethinker65 Oct 2019 #93

Uh? JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #96

It is a Bush reference. Like easily distracted by shit. nt. essme Oct 2019 #103

Must have missed that one. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #106

White rabbit! BootinUp Oct 2019 #115

distract and divide..... yup, it's working IcyPeas Oct 2019 #108

The echoes of Clarence Thomas's claims of a "high tech lynching" because he had to go through pnwmom Oct 2019 #119

Makes sense tirebiter Oct 2019 #122

That's something I hadn't considered!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #191

Personally, I wont use the word. Actually, you never know who it may offend... VarryOn Oct 2019 #127

Talk about posting some stupid irrelevant shit to argue about calguy Oct 2019 #128

And? BannonsLiver Oct 2019 #139

That is disqualifying. betsuni Oct 2019 #141

1. Biden apologized OKNancy Oct 2019 #144

Biden apologized peggysue2 Oct 2019 #225

Another day another Biden bashing thread. Got anything else? Joe941 Oct 2019 #150

Live long enough and you will make mistakes. Raven123 Oct 2019 #153

I didn't care when Trump said it Loki Liesmith Oct 2019 #154

Context and actual words used seem to confuse a lot of very foolish people. TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #155

oh dear... myohmy2 Oct 2019 #158

Looks like the OP did not work. Kingofalldems Oct 2019 #160

+1000 Peacetrain Oct 2019 #218

Of course he did. aikoaiko Oct 2019 #161

Well it was just a blow job treestar Oct 2019 #163

It amazes me that people here are trying to equate Joe Biden to donald trump... George II Oct 2019 #167

Yes. Why? betsuni Oct 2019 #168

Who cares Who cares Who cares Who cares kacekwl Oct 2019 #170

Lots of people care. Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #190

It was wrong when trump said it kacekwl Oct 2019 #216

As did others......Reps. Meeks, Davis, McDermott, Rangel...... AncientGeezer Oct 2019 #175

No one curr... As some young people say. NewDayOranges Oct 2019 #208

Donald Trump is a racist pig ! stonecutter357 Oct 2019 #228

He just apologized BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #232

Good. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #233