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The Velveteen Ocelot

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73. His support from *this* voter has plummeted.

Wed Mar 20, 2019, 11:46 AM

Mar 2019

I supported him in the 2016 primaries because the choice then was binary, and I agreed more with most of his positions than I did with Hillary's. I just hoped he'd help push her to take up some more progressive views (which she did) because I didn't really expect him to get the nomination. Of course, I voted for Hillary in the general. With more (younger, diverse) candidates to choose from this time, however, I don't need Bernie, and I especially don't need or want the divisive Jill Stein retreads he's chosen to manage and represent his campaign. That was the last straw. He's now on my big-fat-no list with Gabbard, Gillibrand and Williamson. Obviously any Democrat is better than Trump, but this year there are plenty of great Democrats to choose from. I no longer consider him to be one of them.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Polls show Bernie Sanders popularity among all voters is plummeting [View all] lapucelle Mar 2019 OP

That's because this time... BooScout Mar 2019 #1

Or perhaps because there are so many other choices Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #3

That would be either Harris or Warren , lapucelle Mar 2019 #60

I would disagree as to the choices in the primary process Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #86

Governor Inslee is just as progressive, but of course he's not on the list. n/t pnwmom Mar 2019 #100

That's because it is a comparison of Senate Voting records. Gov Inslee is very interesting to me emulatorloo Mar 2019 #128

Right -- which is why I said "of course." He's been a great Governor, a strong progressive pnwmom Mar 2019 #130

... emulatorloo Mar 2019 #132

Gov Inslee is brilliant! Cha Mar 2019 #194

Wow...Sanders is almost at the bottom of the list.. BooScout Mar 2019 #136

Yeah, he talks "progressive" but Cha Mar 2019 #192

Aha! Mahalo, lapucelle! Cha Mar 2019 #191

Yes, there are lots of excellent choices PatSeg Mar 2019 #79

I am likewise excited about the coming exchange of ideas Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #88

There are two or three PatSeg Mar 2019 #120

...we can possibly get... reACTIONary Mar 2019 #137

So many good Dems running that are more attractive candidates. Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #4

I was a Bernie supporter in 2016 TruckFump Mar 2019 #18

Mayor Pete is kind of blowing me away too. I'm also all in for many different combos Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #22

Every day, I find something new to like TruckFump Mar 2019 #24

I feel the same way! BadgerMom Mar 2019 #56

+1. emulatorloo Mar 2019 #129

Isn't that great? PatSeg Mar 2019 #81

Yes, yes, yes!!! TruckFump Mar 2019 #96

Sure must suck to be a republican right now! PatSeg Mar 2019 #122

Yup! OhZone Mar 2019 #7

Once he chose that anti-Democratic contender hit guy to challenge the others... he died to me. TheBlackAdder Mar 2019 #181

Agreed! OhZone Mar 2019 #183

A lot more people already know who he is, this time. nt. MH1 Mar 2019 #15

What new vetting are you seeing? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2019 #40

Go on twitter and enter the hashtag #VettingBernie. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #80

There is some great material on sanders on twitter Gothmog Mar 2019 #134

This message was self-deleted by its author Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #78

Bingo!! LovingA2andMI Mar 2019 #91

Yay for the Vetting Process! Cha Mar 2019 #2

Yup nt OhZone Mar 2019 #9

Definitely. calimary Mar 2019 #16

Askng for trouble? True Blue American Mar 2019 #57

That's The Press Secretary He Chose? Me. Mar 2019 #59

BS is definitely making a statement.. Cha Mar 2019 #66

... Me. Mar 2019 #75

Yep. It's scorched earth all over again. On one hand... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #82

Hellava campaign Cha Mar 2019 #90

No kidding. I guess this is an example of the kind of staffer calimary Mar 2019 #179

Yeah, scary thought. Cha Mar 2019 #184

Thank goodness for vetting this time around... PunkinPi Mar 2019 #65

Yes, that's one of BJG's worst, Cha Mar 2019 #77

This lady was working for sanders in 2016 Gothmog Mar 2019 #197

Yeah, she's a winner NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #141

nina turner was the red flag and Cha Mar 2019 #159

good stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #5

It's harder to like someone once you REALLY get to know them... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #6

You nailed that one! Thanks! Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #28

+1000. ehrnst Mar 2019 #45

You said it True Blue American Mar 2019 #61

Yeah, Sister Girlfriend!!! Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #83

sanders is being vetted this cycle Gothmog Mar 2019 #102

No longer new, no longer the great misogynistic hope to defeat Hillary. Hortensis Mar 2019 #173

bernie is that crazy uncle nobody wants at dinner...... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #8

Exactly. OhZone Mar 2019 #13

When you hire poisonous snakes like David Sirota to win hearts and minds, Maven Mar 2019 #10

not only did he hire him... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #14

Yes, transparency seems to be an issue, doesn't it? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #46

It's funny when I heard Tad Devine wouldn't be joining because they didn't see eye to eye anymore, MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #74

From today's Washington Post: comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #11

Thanks! Cha Mar 2019 #12

Yep. calimary Mar 2019 #17

Interesting reminder of his many problems. nt R B Garr Mar 2019 #21

+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #34

That's a problem for a Democratic POTUS candidate. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #48

I think most Blacks see through him NastyRiffraff Apr 2019 #208

Corporate media conglomerate spin, Bernie's favorability ratings aren't that different from when he Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #19

CNN is a "media conglomerate" when reporting on Sanders, but heroic again ehrnst Mar 2019 #50

CNN is a corporate media conglomerate. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #76

You used that as a perjorative. ehrnst Mar 2019 #89

They are certainly not a corporate media conglomerate along the lines of CNN. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #92

Jacobin is pretty much all editorial, and not journalism as such. ehrnst Mar 2019 #97

That's been the increasing case for decades with the corporate media conglomerates. Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #107

That still doesn't make Jacobin, the National Review, The Intercept, or the American Spectator or RT ehrnst Mar 2019 #110

It makes them editorials, I see nothing wrong with that. Personally I view Uncle Joe Mar 2019 #114

Editorials are editorials, not polls, nor are they fact checks. They are opinions. ehrnst Mar 2019 #117

THIS! Cha Mar 2019 #196

Wait...it's CNN's fault...again? lapucelle Mar 2019 #64

.... ehrnst Mar 2019 #99

lol Cha Mar 2019 #195

IMO, Bernie is the "rabbit" in this horse race Freethinker65 Mar 2019 #20

YEP Cosmocat Mar 2019 #47

His stump speech is worn out. People have heard R B Garr Mar 2019 #23

Everyone knows Sanders positions on most issues Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #95

Actually, one's Party affiliation is what most people think of first ehrnst Mar 2019 #105

His popularity is plummeting. Do that must mean his positions R B Garr Mar 2019 #112

He just tied Biden Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #115

You obviously haven't read these articles. R B Garr Mar 2019 #119

Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Mar 2019 #25

Not me Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #27

He no longer has Hillary as a foil. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #26

I wonder how much further it'll drop with two Jill Stein supporters now on his senior staff? George II Mar 2019 #29

The personnel moves show that his outfit will be as vile and nasty as the current White House dalton99a Mar 2019 #31

Do you think most poll respondents would ever know that? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2019 #42

Those new hires will be framing the BS campaign messaging. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #69

Face it, people. Bernie's time has come and gone. world wide wally Mar 2019 #30

There are far better candidates - Democrats who don't hire anti-Democratic senior staffers dalton99a Mar 2019 #32

Says the Joe Biden supporter! MGKrebs Mar 2019 #87

As Homer Simpson would say nycbos Mar 2019 #33

... lapucelle Mar 2019 #156

An old Native American proverb: kentuck Mar 2019 #35

He isn't running against one person anymore Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #36

Why and/or why would the number of people in the race impact favorability? N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #72

Another attempt by MSM to decide who will get to the GE yaesu Mar 2019 #37

This was a poll. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #71

He's still very useful for 2020.... Chakaconcarne Mar 2019 #38

Putting Team Green in place as his senior campaign leadership can't help with Democrats...nt SidDithers Mar 2019 #39

Name recognition vs actual vetting mcar Mar 2019 #41

Never gonna see those taxes, are we?!? LakeArenal Mar 2019 #43

Perhaps those recent hires of Sirota and Gray underscore why he may be losing ehrnst Mar 2019 #44

The poll was taken before those recent hires. thesquanderer Mar 2019 #123

I know, what I think that the poll is showing that many Democrats already see in him ehrnst Mar 2019 #124

Good DemKittyNC Mar 2019 #49

Most Hillary supporters will not vote for him radical noodle Mar 2019 #51

95% of people are over the last primary Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #116

LOL! radical noodle Mar 2019 #157

He seems incapable of expanding his appeal. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #118

He has risen nine points since February Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #147

I'm sure people will like him more when they see his accomplishments. Here is the list: Renew Deal Mar 2019 #52

You left out some stuff dalton99a Mar 2019 #58

Good catch Renew Deal Mar 2019 #62

lol.. you guys! Cha Mar 2019 #94

... sheshe2 Mar 2019 #126

HA! betsuni Mar 2019 #155

LOL! You ain't right. Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #84

To many good choices MFM008 Mar 2019 #53

What scares me is awesomerwb1 Mar 2019 #54

Nicely done. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #103

I don't know, but I hope they take their exclamation points with them.!!! cwydro Apr 2019 #207

Expanding on that fear... TommyCelt Mar 2019 #109

It's not madness that *some* Sanders supporters go elsewhere in November. thesquanderer Mar 2019 #121

Awesome, rwb1! George II Mar 2019 #133

His fans are tearing our party apart right now Johnny2X2X Mar 2019 #55

RealClear has him moving up in polls closing in on Biden. CentralMass Mar 2019 #63

Poll from The Hill! True Blue American Mar 2019 #68

Poll from Emerson 3/17-3/18. Biden/Sandrrs tied at 26% CentralMass Mar 2019 #113

CNN's latest primary polling.... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #135

The CNN poll was a "favorability" poll. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #158

Recent polls show 50% of Americans agree that the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt.. mountain grammy Mar 2019 #67

I just posted one True Blue American Mar 2019 #70

Thank you. mountain grammy Mar 2019 #145

His support from *this* voter has plummeted. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2019 #73

Two things. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #85

Yep, it's the burn down the village approach dalton99a Mar 2019 #93

He is not worthy of consideration until he releases tax records, imo. n/t theophilus Mar 2019 #98

No one took sanders seriously in 2016 and so sanders was not vetted Gothmog Mar 2019 #101

I don't feel the same about Bernie now as I did in 2016. PatrickforO Mar 2019 #104

Here's the sad part. Those issues were already part of the Democratic platform. yardwork Mar 2019 #175

Maybe. But I remember Clinton in the 2008 primary being asked if PatrickforO Mar 2019 #178

Great post JonLP24 Mar 2019 #189

They seemed to pay lipservice at best artislife Apr 2019 #205

I supported Sanders above everyone last election cycle Victor_c3 Mar 2019 #106

Sirota SHRED Mar 2019 #108

GOOD! Amimnoch Mar 2019 #111

Only time will tell. Power 2 the People Mar 2019 #125

He is being vetted this time around. nt sheshe2 Mar 2019 #127

They're talking about this right now on CNN, i.e., the significance of his spike in unfavorability! George II Mar 2019 #131

More evidence Bernie will not be the nominee, and won't ever be president BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #138

Sanders just tied Biden Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #139

Yeah, cool story but the negatives are what they are. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #140

Can you link to these negative poll numbers? Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #142

He is a paltry +1 on net favorabilty in this poll. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #143

He has risen nine points since February Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #144

And his net favorability is still just +1 BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #146

If he were 50 points ahead, his detractors would claim Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #148

You'll never have to worry about any of that. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #149

I won't have to worry about it Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #150

... BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #151

It is nose-diving. TwilightZone Mar 2019 #154

Sanders is done lunamagica Mar 2019 #152

Sanders is obviously the one to beat Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #153

How? sanders will not have any support from African American voters Gothmog Mar 2019 #198

trump is the one to beat. Cha Mar 2019 #201

LOL, by those same polls they are referencing he has gained support madville Mar 2019 #160

These polls don't have any questions about the primaries and/or candidate preference. lapucelle Mar 2019 #161

You're right, I was thinking of something else I just read madville Mar 2019 #162

Just about everybody's favorability numbers are far higher than Hillary Clinton's by that poll madville Mar 2019 #163

Really? How interesting! HRC isn't running for office. N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #164

Let's hope it stays that way madville Mar 2019 #165

It's interesting how many many in the right wing media still default to, "but Hillary" whataboutism lapucelle Mar 2019 #166

She's not running and last time her favorability numbers before running betsuni Mar 2019 #170

I agree and right before the election madville Mar 2019 #177

Have you seen these Interesting Polls, lapucelle? Cha Mar 2019 #167

I can't wait for the debates. lapucelle Mar 2019 #168

That's what I've been saying.. Cha Mar 2019 #169

+1. Helluva headline dalton99a Mar 2019 #180

GOOD!! allgood33 Mar 2019 #171

If it's plummeting NOW, just wait for him to Hortensis Mar 2019 #172

It's go time. betsuni Mar 2019 #174

:) Yup! Hortensis Mar 2019 #176

The demolition work comes first - he is hiring senior staff with experience dalton99a Mar 2019 #182

Contemptible. Experience at synergizing anti-Democratic themes Hortensis Mar 2019 #193

I dare him! Cha Mar 2019 #186

:) If I were them, I'd want that hidden! Hortensis Mar 2019 #190

Paul Krugman commenting on BS poll.. Cha Mar 2019 #185

Krugman has a point: this is before the "Bernie is Hugo Chavez with a New York accent" stuff. betsuni Mar 2019 #187

And, interesting coming Cha Mar 2019 #200

I agree with Prof. Krugman Gothmog Mar 2019 #199

It is simple and easy to understand. Sanders is not electable Stuart G Mar 2019 #188

Doesn't reqlly matter as long as he is in the race to the end. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #202

Nodding in agreement. nt artislife Apr 2019 #206

If sanders is the nominee, trump wins Gothmog Apr 2019 #203

My reasons for not jumping in for him artislife Apr 2019 #204

According to this study trump could win Gothmog Apr 2019 #209

Faster! Faster! DavidDvorkin Apr 2019 #210