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In reply to the discussion: Polls show Bernie Sanders popularity among all voters is plummeting [View all]Gothmog
(180,317 posts)101. No one took sanders seriously in 2016 and so sanders was not vetted
No one took sanders seriously and so he was not vetted. Vetting is important I amso glad that sanders is being vetted this cycle https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/28/why-bernie-sanders-has-an-uphill-climb-ahead/?utm_term=.1b4f90c2a717
Finally, what happens when the oppo dump on Sanders comes? We have no idea, because it never happened in 2016. Clinton was so terrified of alienating his supporters and seeing them vote for Jill Stein in the general election (or not vote at all) that she tiptoed around him for pretty much the entirety of the primary campaign. That doesnt mean that hell be destroyed when stories about the more colorful aspects of his history start cropping up, but theres just no way to know.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
Which is what we could say about the Sanders candidacy as a whole: Theres no way to know how its going to go. But hes got his work cut out for him.
See also https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/19/politics/bernie-sanders-2020-campaign-donald-trump/index.html?utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2019-02-20T14%3A52%3A07&utm_term=image&utm_medium=social%C2%A0
2. How will he withstand more scrutiny and more attacks?
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
One of the secrets to Sanders' success in 2016 was that no one -- most especially Clinton -- thought he had any chance of going anywhere in the race. Clinton largely ignored him for the better part of 2015, allowing some problematic parts of Sanders' record for Democrats -- most notably his voting record on guns -- to go unnoticed. (When the race began to tighten, Clinton gently prodded Sanders on guns and health care.) Sanders, too, largely flew under the radar of investigative reporters for major news outlets who were busy looking into Clinton, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio and others seen as more viable candidates. (That reality clearly benefited Donald Trump in the early days of the campaign, as well.)
Sanders will get no pass -- from either the media or his fellow candidates -- this time around. He is among the frontrunners -- and will be treated as such. His wife's time as president of Burlington College could well come up. And his opponents will do a deep dive into his nearly 30 years of votes as a member of the House and Senate. This is all very normal stuff in a campaign. But not for Sanders.
The CNN polling reflects the fact that sanders is being vetted
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Polls show Bernie Sanders popularity among all voters is plummeting [View all]
lapucelle
Mar 2019
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Governor Inslee is just as progressive, but of course he's not on the list. n/t
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#100
That's because it is a comparison of Senate Voting records. Gov Inslee is very interesting to me
emulatorloo
Mar 2019
#128
Right -- which is why I said "of course." He's been a great Governor, a strong progressive
pnwmom
Mar 2019
#130
Mayor Pete is kind of blowing me away too. I'm also all in for many different combos
Maru Kitteh
Mar 2019
#22
Once he chose that anti-Democratic contender hit guy to challenge the others... he died to me.
TheBlackAdder
Mar 2019
#181
It's funny when I heard Tad Devine wouldn't be joining because they didn't see eye to eye anymore,
MrsCoffee
Mar 2019
#74
Corporate media conglomerate spin, Bernie's favorability ratings aren't that different from when he
Uncle Joe
Mar 2019
#19
They are certainly not a corporate media conglomerate along the lines of CNN.
Uncle Joe
Mar 2019
#92
That's been the increasing case for decades with the corporate media conglomerates.
Uncle Joe
Mar 2019
#107
That still doesn't make Jacobin, the National Review, The Intercept, or the American Spectator or RT
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#110
Editorials are editorials, not polls, nor are they fact checks. They are opinions.
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#117
I wonder how much further it'll drop with two Jill Stein supporters now on his senior staff?
George II
Mar 2019
#29
The personnel moves show that his outfit will be as vile and nasty as the current White House
dalton99a
Mar 2019
#31
There are far better candidates - Democrats who don't hire anti-Democratic senior staffers
dalton99a
Mar 2019
#32
Why and/or why would the number of people in the race impact favorability? N/T
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#72
Putting Team Green in place as his senior campaign leadership can't help with Democrats...nt
SidDithers
Mar 2019
#39
I know, what I think that the poll is showing that many Democrats already see in him
ehrnst
Mar 2019
#124
I'm sure people will like him more when they see his accomplishments. Here is the list:
Renew Deal
Mar 2019
#52
It's not madness that *some* Sanders supporters go elsewhere in November.
thesquanderer
Mar 2019
#121
Recent polls show 50% of Americans agree that the Mueller investigation is a witch hunt..
mountain grammy
Mar 2019
#67
Here's the sad part. Those issues were already part of the Democratic platform.
yardwork
Mar 2019
#175
They're talking about this right now on CNN, i.e., the significance of his spike in unfavorability!
George II
Mar 2019
#131
More evidence Bernie will not be the nominee, and won't ever be president
BannonsLiver
Mar 2019
#138
These polls don't have any questions about the primaries and/or candidate preference.
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#161
Just about everybody's favorability numbers are far higher than Hillary Clinton's by that poll
madville
Mar 2019
#163
It's interesting how many many in the right wing media still default to, "but Hillary" whataboutism
lapucelle
Mar 2019
#166