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bluewater

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8. Joe Biden IS still defending the 1994 Crime Bill now
Sat Oct 26, 2019, 08:53 PM
Oct 2019
Joe Biden’s defense of the 1994 crime bill’s role in mass incarcerations

“This idea that the crime bill generated mass incarceration, it did not generate mass incarceration."
— Former vice president Joe Biden (D-Del.), in remarks in Nashua, N.H., May 14, 2019

...
The Pinocchio Test
Biden tries to deflect criticism that the 1994 crime bill contributed to an increase in incarceration by pinning the blame on the states for building more prisons and passing tougher laws. But the federal law set the tone — and the bill he crafted included incentives for states to overhaul their laws and build more prisons.
There are many factors that contributed to the United States having such a high incarceration rate, but few dispute the crime bill was a contributor. Bill Clinton has acknowledged this. If Biden is going to lay claim to the “Biden Crime Bill,” he also needs to take ownership of some of its flaws apparent a quarter-century later.

Two Pinocchios

(The Washington Post)


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/16/joe-bidens-defense-crime-bills-role-incarceration-trend/

And Sanders has admitted that the 1994 Crime Bill was flawed and he railed against those flaws at the time and has said it was a mistake to have voted for it.

Biden, as you admit, is also still defending co-authoring that bill.

So my point is you are wrong, Biden IS still defending the 1994 Crime Bill and fact checkers gave him Two Pinocchios for that defense.

So, again, what was YOUR point?

That it's bad to realize that much more work needs to be done on criminal justice reform?

That we should all still defend the 1994 Crime Bill like Biden is doing?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 George II Oct 2019 #1
Do you believe SC State Representative and attorney Justin Bamberg doesn't know about that? Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #2
Wasn't that the bill Senator Joe Biden co-authored? Yes. bluewater Oct 2019 #3
Biden isn't "defending" the crime bill now in 2019, he's defending the crime bill... George II Oct 2019 #4
Joe Biden IS still defending the 1994 Crime Bill now bluewater Oct 2019 #8
No he isn't - he's defending what the crime bill was in 1994, the bill that passed overwhelmingly... George II Oct 2019 #11
Bernie can say whatever he wants he still voted for it, touted it in 2006. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #14
+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #15
Biden and Sanders had very different perspectives on the crime bill. thesquanderer Oct 2019 #20
Like I said, he touted his vote in 2006 OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #21
re: "watch what they DO not what they SAY" thesquanderer Oct 2019 #23
You know it Uncle Joe... Bernie has credibility alright, on this and most other issues!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #5
I totally agree InAbLuEsTaTe but if you're bucking Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #6
So true!! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2019 #13
... George II Oct 2019 #12
This is something I wouldn't boast about. Does Trump have ANY credibility? beastie boy Oct 2019 #7
It's all relative, Uncle Joe Oct 2019 #10
Yeah, the guy who didn't know people rot away in prison tishaLA Oct 2019 #9
Bernie, 2018: "I'll be honest with you. I really didn't know this was happening. I had no idea betsuni Oct 2019 #16
Let me guess, with Klobuchar's and Harris' backgrounds as prosecutors... TreasonousBastard Oct 2019 #17
Exactly... he's always being compared to Trump rather than the other Democrats. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #19
Sanders has the credibility Trump lacks... on pretty much ANYTHING. (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2019 #18
Harris, Klobuchar, Biden and Warren all have more credibility comradebillyboy Oct 2019 #22
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