Democratic Primaries

boomer_wv

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20. It's not even true.

Sun Oct 27, 2019, 12:05 PM

Oct 2019

Obama made lots of shifts after winning the primary.

"Obama has been providing plenty of plastic for the flip-flop factories with the adjustments he’s been making as he retools his campaign for the general election. Under headlines like “in campaign, one man’s pragmatism is another’s flip-flopping,” the big papers have been assembling quite a list of matters on which the candidate has “changed his position,” including Iraq, abortion rights, federal aid to faith-based social services, capital punishment, gun control, public financing of campaigns, and wiretapping. Most of them are mere shifts of emphasis, some are marginal tweaks, and a few are either substantive or nonexistent. Let’s do a quick tour d’horizon."

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2008/07/21/flip-flop-flap

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Run left in the primaries, move to the center in the GE [View all] redqueen Oct 2019 OP

Because they'll have to explain the positions they took in the primaries. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #1

Well I don't think anyone is promising unicorns redqueen Oct 2019 #2

Just because it is conventional wisdom doesn't mean it will happen. Chemisse Oct 2019 #3

An interesting point. redqueen Oct 2019 #4

It's possible but I am dubious. Chemisse Oct 2019 #10

Warren did not say how she would pay Teach-only-love Oct 2019 #23

Why not say it now then? Chemisse Oct 2019 #31

This is the plan she will announce shortly. Teach-only-love Oct 2019 #32

The most electable candidates stick to their principles through the primaries... DCofVA Oct 2019 #5

Any data to back that up? nt redqueen Oct 2019 #6

Barack Obama DCofVA Oct 2019 #7

That's an anecdote, not data. nt redqueen Oct 2019 #8

So is the OP. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #17

LOL - it's literally not redqueen Oct 2019 #18

LOL! NurseJackie Oct 2019 #26

It's not even true. boomer_wv Oct 2019 #20

Yeah, I was pretty sure that was common knowledge, redqueen Oct 2019 #21

Most electable? Chemisse Oct 2019 #12

"Do Repubs gravitate around their most moderately right nominees or do they go for what they want?" HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #9

That is exactly how I see it. redqueen Oct 2019 #11

+1000 bluewater Oct 2019 #28

Giving in to the far right has led us to where we are right now. Chemisse Oct 2019 #13

The reTHUGS have destroyed the political center, just like thye destroy everything they touch. abqtommy Oct 2019 #14

Like it actually matters either way.. Amimnoch Oct 2019 #15

The only candidates who can do that are the ones who haven't painted themselves into a corner... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #16

Yeah, that has almost nothing to do with the OP redqueen Oct 2019 #19

I'm providing a perfectly valid example that's entirely in keeping with the topic of your OP. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #22

CENTER LEFT is where the vast majority of Democrats either are Hortensis Oct 2019 #24

Right but my point is why do people push other dems to stop favoring their preferred candidates redqueen Oct 2019 #25

I can only speak for myself. I feel a handful of candidates are Hortensis Oct 2019 #27

On that we agree. redqueen Oct 2019 #29

Ah. :) Yeah. Calling Democrats "moderates" identifies a propagandist Hortensis Oct 2019 #30

But isn't this the reason given for not going straight for single payer? redqueen Oct 2019 #33

Our liberals in congress ALL support universal healthcare. EVERY ONE. Hortensis Oct 2019 #34

I said single-payer, though, not universal healthcare. redqueen Oct 2019 #38

Well, we would have single payer now if Hillary was president, Hortensis Oct 2019 #40

Republicans/Conservatives tend to stay loyal Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #35

Seems like more of an argument to vote for what we want, redqueen Oct 2019 #36

Maybe Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #37

Indeed. redqueen Oct 2019 #39