Democratic Primaries

Hortensis

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34. Our liberals in congress ALL support universal healthcare. EVERY ONE.

Mon Oct 28, 2019, 10:48 AM

Oct 2019

Not just the strong liberals, but the moderate liberals as well.

It's not a fringe movement, it's mainstream. Our Democratic Party has been committed to universal healthcare for a very long time, literally decades.

The opposition is the Republican Party and the anti-taxation powers it serves. It used to be almost the entire conservative half of our nation. But now that RW voters have better healthcare they want more, a lot more.

Btw, "going straight to single payer" would be adding that option to the ACA quickly after we take power in 2021, instead of over the 7 years it would take to create a new program. (What if the Republicans took over in 2024 before it was in place?) So strictly speaking, the opposition to "going straight to single payer" also includes those on the left who don't want it added to the ACA.

Btw, back in 2010 before it was blocked, I had every intention of signing up immediately for the ACA's single payer option and was sure that over time by far most Americans would choose to get their healthcare through that. But we still will get single payer, whether quickly or delayed yet more years. Because now almost everyone wants it, even those on the right who don't know it.

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Run left in the primaries, move to the center in the GE [View all] redqueen Oct 2019 OP

Because they'll have to explain the positions they took in the primaries. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2019 #1

Well I don't think anyone is promising unicorns redqueen Oct 2019 #2

Just because it is conventional wisdom doesn't mean it will happen. Chemisse Oct 2019 #3

An interesting point. redqueen Oct 2019 #4

It's possible but I am dubious. Chemisse Oct 2019 #10

Warren did not say how she would pay Teach-only-love Oct 2019 #23

Why not say it now then? Chemisse Oct 2019 #31

This is the plan she will announce shortly. Teach-only-love Oct 2019 #32

The most electable candidates stick to their principles through the primaries... DCofVA Oct 2019 #5

Any data to back that up? nt redqueen Oct 2019 #6

Barack Obama DCofVA Oct 2019 #7

That's an anecdote, not data. nt redqueen Oct 2019 #8

So is the OP. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #17

LOL - it's literally not redqueen Oct 2019 #18

LOL! NurseJackie Oct 2019 #26

It's not even true. boomer_wv Oct 2019 #20

Yeah, I was pretty sure that was common knowledge, redqueen Oct 2019 #21

Most electable? Chemisse Oct 2019 #12

"Do Repubs gravitate around their most moderately right nominees or do they go for what they want?" HeartlandProgressive Oct 2019 #9

That is exactly how I see it. redqueen Oct 2019 #11

+1000 bluewater Oct 2019 #28

Giving in to the far right has led us to where we are right now. Chemisse Oct 2019 #13

The reTHUGS have destroyed the political center, just like thye destroy everything they touch. abqtommy Oct 2019 #14

Like it actually matters either way.. Amimnoch Oct 2019 #15

The only candidates who can do that are the ones who haven't painted themselves into a corner... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #16

Yeah, that has almost nothing to do with the OP redqueen Oct 2019 #19

I'm providing a perfectly valid example that's entirely in keeping with the topic of your OP. NurseJackie Oct 2019 #22

CENTER LEFT is where the vast majority of Democrats either are Hortensis Oct 2019 #24

Right but my point is why do people push other dems to stop favoring their preferred candidates redqueen Oct 2019 #25

I can only speak for myself. I feel a handful of candidates are Hortensis Oct 2019 #27

On that we agree. redqueen Oct 2019 #29

Ah. :) Yeah. Calling Democrats "moderates" identifies a propagandist Hortensis Oct 2019 #30

But isn't this the reason given for not going straight for single payer? redqueen Oct 2019 #33

Our liberals in congress ALL support universal healthcare. EVERY ONE. Hortensis Oct 2019 #34

I said single-payer, though, not universal healthcare. redqueen Oct 2019 #38

Well, we would have single payer now if Hillary was president, Hortensis Oct 2019 #40

Republicans/Conservatives tend to stay loyal Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #35

Seems like more of an argument to vote for what we want, redqueen Oct 2019 #36

Maybe Dem4Life1102 Oct 2019 #37

Indeed. redqueen Oct 2019 #39