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Amimnoch

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38. No thanks, I'd rather stick with actual battleground state polling data.
Mon Oct 28, 2019, 11:04 AM
Oct 2019

Nice fantasy bit, but it still bases it all on national (or popular) polls. The fantasy election map has him winning state that frankly, and in reality he is not polling in nearly as well as Biden, and trails Warren.

Nevada is not impossible, it is battleground territory for Bernie, but that is likewise very optimistic that it'd be a given win.

Michigan and Wisconsin both do have a lean Bernie margin, but in both Biden polls better when matched up (as of most recent polls at least). In both those states, Bernie is points ahead, but within the margins of error, Biden is polling above the MOE.

In Ohio, both Biden and Bernie are indeed polling above the MOE. However, Whereas Bernie has gone up in the most recent poll in Ohio, Biden has been trending above the MOE over the last few polls. Just 2 polls ago, Bernie was at a -1 loss to Trump there.

I also, personally, put a LOT of stock in how Ohio polls, that is the only state in the nation that seems to continuously, over decades, vote in the direction that the outcome of the election reflects. No president has risen to office without Ohio's electoral votes since JFK.

Of course this is subject to change as time goes on, and may change a lot once the actual election season kicks off, but as of this time, I'm sticking with the one that is consistently winning the states that must be won.


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided

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maybe but evertonfc Oct 2019 #1
He has a better chance than the vast majority of the candidates running. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #2
pay no attention to that kind of comment NJCher Oct 2019 #3
Thanks Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #4
Sanders is zentrum Oct 2019 #5
As is Warren!! Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #6
Agree totally. zentrum Oct 2019 #14
He has a worse chance than Biden and Warren brooklynite Oct 2019 #41
He leads in every Poll, Yet he is unelectable ritapria Oct 2019 #7
I also find it noteworthy that VT was a red state when he came around. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #8
Surely you are jesting! beastie boy Oct 2019 #10
why is Bernie leading in donations NJCher Oct 2019 #12
Are these examples of polls? The poster said Bernie is leading in every poll. beastie boy Oct 2019 #13
what does that mean? NJCher Oct 2019 #22
It means, whatever the dimentions of his support you want to suggest, its volume is consistently #1. beastie boy Oct 2019 #24
CNN poll: Biden wins the "enthusiasm" factor! A record level of enthusiasm heading into 2020 UncleNoel Oct 2019 #28
I'm sure you're aware NJCher Oct 2019 #29
Enthusiam that counts is not that of activists, but of he voters. UncleNoel Oct 2019 #30
There are 21 candidates. He is in at least 3rd place in every poll. I do consider that leading. Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #15
Leading and leading 18 out of 21 candidates are two different things. beastie boy Oct 2019 #17
Correct about harris. But leading the vast majority of candidates is a little easier than Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #19
In Bernie's case, leading the vast majority means he is consistently #3. beastie boy Oct 2019 #23
Biden 27, Warren 21, Sanders 17, Buttigieg 7, Harris 5 (Biden +6) UncleNoel Oct 2019 #27
I share a distrust of RCP. I make my own averages based primarily on 538. UncleNoel Oct 2019 #33
And what is your own average based on 538? beastie boy Oct 2019 #36
That Biden negative outlier you mentioned is from Rasmussen! beastie boy Oct 2019 #9
How Did RCP Get Such A Foothold On Polls Me. Oct 2019 #11
THIS. Everyone should know this. Hortensis Oct 2019 #25
I Only Found Out By Accident Me. Oct 2019 #31
Sanders supporters... OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #16
That's an obfuscation if i never saw one Tiggeroshii Oct 2019 #20
I see. OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #21
That is because they both attack the Democrats n/t PhoenixDem Oct 2019 #18
RCP president: "we have a frustration all conservatives have," Hortensis Oct 2019 #26
This Me. Oct 2019 #32
Sanders is a very good third-tier candidate. LanternWaste Oct 2019 #34
National "popular vote" polls maybe, Amimnoch Oct 2019 #35
I don't know if that's correct, based on polling. check out this video: floppyboo Oct 2019 #37
No thanks, I'd rather stick with actual battleground state polling data. Amimnoch Oct 2019 #38
Bernie hasn't been vetted and subjected to the gop smear machine.... Kahuna7 Oct 2019 #39
Put ME in the poll and I'd do better than Trump too... NurseJackie Oct 2019 #40
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