Democratic Primaries

TidalWave46

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65. These things don't matter.....

Mon Oct 28, 2019, 08:00 PM

Oct 2019

When it’s all about the individual. It’s cult of personality. One of the more foolish things in politics. Everything shiny leads to the chosen one.

I’m actually finding myself doing that more and more when it comes to Obama. As the months go by I seem to put him up further on a pedestal.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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The first "Medicare for All" Act, so appropriate on this of all days: [View all] George II Oct 2019 OP

I have to wonder why my eyes went right to number 12. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #1

To think we lost both of them within a week or two. Truly sad. George II Oct 2019 #4

We are a better nation because of both of them. JoeOtterbein Oct 2019 #7

31. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #2

Why do this? George II Oct 2019 #5

Why do what? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #6

Well, since you brought it up, the bill was introduced by John Conyers on February 11, 2003..... George II Oct 2019 #11

Aren't you against MFA? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #14

Did MFA get enough votes to become law? betsuni Oct 2019 #17

So you support MFA? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #44

Irrelevant. The point is that John Conyers was the originator of "Medicare for All".... George II Oct 2019 #19

+1 betsuni Oct 2019 #21

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #22

It's not irrelevant at all melman Oct 2019 #24

We're discussing the Medicare for All bill introduced in February 2003. When have I bashed it? George II Oct 2019 #25

Reiterate all you want melman Oct 2019 #26

That is correct. I have never bashed the 2003 "Medicare for All" bill. George II Oct 2019 #28

Parsing and word games melman Oct 2019 #31

Actually, I don't even think I've ever mentioned the 2003 Medicare for All Act before.... George II Oct 2019 #32

Interesting. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #58

Stop what? melman Oct 2019 #60

Talk about .. sheshe2 Oct 2019 #62

As usual you throw out insults and accusations and say "night'' when challenged melman Oct 2019 #63

you are the one that did not respond when I answered your "challenge" sheshe2 Oct 2019 #64

..... ehrnst Oct 2019 #71

I get it! melman Oct 2019 #73

Well "incessantly" sure is appropriate in this case. ehrnst Oct 2019 #77

Oh and then there is this. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #33

Indeed......that statement is from 2017... George II Oct 2019 #36

Sanders and Conyers worked on MFA together both in the house and the senate Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #39

John Conyers had a long, distinguished career in the House, but never served in the Senate.... George II Oct 2019 #41

Yes of course Sanders worked with Conyers while SANDERS was in the house and the senate. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #43

Why do you ask that? I never opposed Conyers' Medicare for All bill. George II Oct 2019 #46

because you very carefully stated that you never opposed the 2003 bill Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #47

I never opposed Conyers' bills. George II Oct 2019 #48

So do you support the current house bill: Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #50

We're not discussing that bill. The OP clearly is about this one: George II Oct 2019 #52

So you don't support the last version Conyers introduced? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #55

Who said I oppose it? I suspect the "When did you stop beating your wife" question is up next. George II Oct 2019 #56

I'm asking if you supported or opposed the last version of Conyers bill. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #57

Inasmuch as I've asked several questions of yours and you've basically ignored mine... George II Oct 2019 #59

Odd. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #68

Two entirely different bills. Different "H.R." numbers, and the easiest way to compare them is... George II Oct 2019 #74

I'm just trying to understand what your position is on MFA, and it is has been very difficult to Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #76

Certainly seems that way judging from posting history melman Oct 2019 #23

I'm sure you can document that, right? George II Oct 2019 #27

No need melman Oct 2019 #29

bwahahahahaha!!!! George II Oct 2019 #30

These things don't matter..... TidalWave46 Oct 2019 #65

Better late than never. betsuni Oct 2019 #15

Lulzd. Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #16

Lulzd. betsuni Oct 2019 #18

So you support MFA? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #34

No they didn't, and it took Sanders more than 14 months to embrace Conyers' bill. George II Oct 2019 #20

So these three reps are also in the shitter with Bernie? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #35

Irrelevant. None of those three are running around the country telling people they came up with... George II Oct 2019 #37

Sanders said he invented medicare for all? Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #40

Silence melman Oct 2019 #42

Yeah, I wonder why he's so quiet except for questions. George II Oct 2019 #45

Clever melman Oct 2019 #51

Not only clever, but.... George II Oct 2019 #54

People don't "invent" legislation. George II Oct 2019 #49

well sure they do, but I'm confused about what you meant here: Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #53

He insinuates he was the only one talking about progressive policies all the time: betsuni Oct 2019 #61

"Brought forth" those words do not mean Voltaire2 Oct 2019 #67

Sad indeed melman Oct 2019 #38

28. Kurt V. Oct 2019 #3

I went to high school with him, he was in my home room class. George II Oct 2019 #8

That's pretty cool. wonder if home room still a thing ? :) Kurt V. Oct 2019 #10

Who knows how things work in schools these days, probably not. George II Oct 2019 #12

May he rest in peace mcar Oct 2019 #9

K&R betsuni Oct 2019 #13

Credit where it's due mcar Oct 2019 #66

He wrote the damn bill...nt SidDithers Oct 2019 #69

... betsuni Oct 2019 #70

And never claimed he invented the idea... (nt) ehrnst Oct 2019 #72

Grandiose embellishments OldRed2450 Oct 2019 #75