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ehrnst

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8. Actually those are different issues.
Fri Nov 1, 2019, 03:41 PM
Nov 2019
Just like when Trump takes money from Puerto Rico recovery to pay for border patrol, we acknowledge that's not the way that the money was approved to be spent.

Yes, the Pentagon and every other government agency should indeed be accounting for and justifying the dollars spent, but we need to be careful about setting the precedent of simply moving lots of money from one place to another quickly.

If we haven't been able to tax the wealthy thus far, I'm not sure what makes people think that simply passing one law will change all of that.

We've seen what happened to the ACA.

and to save the life of a straw man... no, I'm not defending the amount spent on the DoD. I do know that many small businesses, and freelancers make their living on the DoD - mom and pop restaurants and caterers and delivery services and event suppliers near a base, freelance actors and filmmakers and sound recordists who create training videos for the Pentagon, caterers, and many more.

Because the government has privatized so much, cuts to the DoD are going to affect other parts of the economy, with consequences on those who are responsible for those cuts.

And if taxing the wealthy was simple, wouldn't it have been done by now?

Again.... I'm not justifying the tax evasion of Bezos and others like him. I'm pointing out that we didn't get to this situation overnight, and we're not going to reverse it overnight. Not even in two years...
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"let's talk about it, but let's not just have one bill that do that." redqueen Nov 2019 #1
Very much so. Amimnoch Nov 2019 #25
"People have a comfort level with the private insurance they have " ritapria Nov 2019 #2
People reaching the age of 65 are happy to get on Medicare. ehrnst Nov 2019 #6
my insurance from employer was crap compared to medicare - I don't know anyone airplaneman Nov 2019 #9
My insurance from employer is great... brooklynite Nov 2019 #11
I'm talking about people that you don't know who are fearful that they will get less ehrnst Nov 2019 #14
Yes I found that retiring at 62 was not an option for me due to health care insurance costs airplaneman Nov 2019 #7
But they still, many of them, keep private insurance to get better coverage, low prescription costs. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #10
Some of us have Medicare and private; together they give 100 percent coverage, with very low drug emmaverybo Nov 2019 #55
This is the centrist talking point. ''How, who, is going to pay for it?" YOHABLO Nov 2019 #3
Actually those are different issues. ehrnst Nov 2019 #8
Counties with the highest median household income in U.S.all reside around D.C. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #13
What does that have to do with the topic we were discussing? ehrnst Nov 2019 #16
If you can't figure it out then there's no use in explaining to you. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #17
That's one tried and true way to avoid answering a question. ehrnst Nov 2019 #18
I glad to hear madam speaker give her opinion. She knows better than any one what will Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #4
C'mon, I'm sure the blogosphere knows better..... brooklynite Nov 2019 #12
+1,000,000 highplainsdem Nov 2019 #19
Yea, and that Civil Rights Act. It'll never pass either... paleotn Nov 2019 #52
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #5
K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #15
Good for Nancy coming out Cha Nov 2019 #20
That's ok. I remember not long ago when Nancy wasn't a fan of impeachment either. My, how abqtommy Nov 2019 #21
I wasn't either until the "call" redstateblues Nov 2019 #54
Well, Nancy wasn't keen on impeachment either when she was first presented with it. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #22
she will go along with it KayF Nov 2019 #23
Push them? If it is so great for everyone why would you have to push them into supporting it? emmaverybo Nov 2019 #56
because it's not as great for some people KayF Dec 2019 #59
Here's what M4All supporters miss: some millions, not rich, worked for benefits which they got in emmaverybo Dec 2019 #60
How about non-profit health insurance companies? Dirty Socialist Nov 2019 #24
Medicare at 55. I'm tellin' ya, we'd CLEAN UP. (n/t) SMC22307 Nov 2019 #26
That's another good idea Dirty Socialist Nov 2019 #27
Seriously, think of the 55-64 year olds who could possibly retire... SMC22307 Nov 2019 #30
I'm 55 myself Dirty Socialist Nov 2019 #31
Why won't anyone campaign on that? Mariana Nov 2019 #44
It would turn them. We're told Medicare for All is too "radical"... SMC22307 Nov 2019 #45
I like her but she is way, way, way off on this! I really don't understand this position. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #28
Nancy understands a lot of things tirebiter Nov 2019 #29
Pelosi's joke, '['W]ell, it would increase the vote in my own district', Pelosi said chuckling'. empedocles Nov 2019 #32
Well, I'm not a big fan of people going bankrupt because. . . Stargleamer Nov 2019 #33
Check her donors for roody Nov 2019 #34
'This is going to cause down-ballot damage': Gothmog Nov 2019 #36
You are so wrong WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #41
Pelosi: 'I'm not a big fan of Medicare for All' Gothmog Nov 2019 #35
She will follow the leaders of the democratic party in time. Joe941 Nov 2019 #37
She is a leader of the Democratic Party. MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #39
"Bernie the guy who has been a Democrat for five minutes" maximusveritas Nov 2019 #42
I'm sure the blogosphere knows better than she does... brooklynite Nov 2019 #38
Not surprising Beringia Nov 2019 #40
From Harry Reid Gothmog Nov 2019 #43
Notable feature of Nancy: she can count votes. When she says something, take that into account.nt Hekate Nov 2019 #46
In battleground states, MFA is a bad idea Gothmog Nov 2019 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Nov 2019 #48
Medicare for All's JOBS problem Gothmog Nov 2019 #49
When it comes to Medicare-for-all, listen to Nancy Pelosi Gothmog Nov 2019 #50
When it comes to Medicare for All, or single payer, guillaumeb Nov 2019 #51
In any case, the program would have to evolve and develop. Turbineguy Nov 2019 #53
I'm a Warren supporter, but there's no better political strategist than Nancy Pelosi. Bleacher Creature Nov 2019 #57
This shows MFA is DOA PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #58
Kick! Cha Dec 2019 #61
Nancy Pelosi is "not for doing away with Obamacare" and prefers to give people choices. Gothmog Dec 2019 #62
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