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crazytown

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Sun Nov 3, 2019, 09:16 AM Nov 2019

Krugman: Did Warren Pass the Medicare Test? I Think So [View all]

Did Warren Pass the Medicare Test? I Think So
Her plan is serious, even if it probably won’t happen

Last week I worried that Elizabeth Warren had painted herself into a corner by endorsing the Sanders Medicare-for-all plan. It was becoming obvious that she couldn’t stay vague about the details, especially how to pay for it; and some studies, even by center-left think tanks, suggested that any plan along these lines would require large tax hikes on the middle class. So what would she come up with?

Well, the Warren plan is now out. And I’d say that she passed the test. Experts will argue for months whether she’s being too optimistic — whether her cost estimates are too low and her revenue estimates too high, whether we can really do this without middle-class tax hikes. You might say that time will tell, but it probably won’t: Even if Warren becomes president, and Dems take the Senate too, it’s very unlikely that Medicare for all will happen any time soon.

Nonetheless, Warren needed to show that she was working the problem. And she did. She brought in real experts like Donald Berwick, who ran Medicare during the Obama years, and Betsey Stevenson, former chief economist at the Labor Department. And they have produced a serious plan. As I said, experts will argue with the numbers, but this is the real thing — not some left-leaning version of voodoo economics.[

(snip) Am I enthusiastically endorsing this plan? No. I still think that a public-option-type plan, which lets people buy into Medicare, would have a better chance of actually becoming reality — and may well be where a President Warren actually ends up if she gets to the White House. And the plan’s optimism on costs and revenues could be wrong.

But this is a serious plan that reflects hard thinking. In particular, it’s nothing like the snake oil that passes for policy analysis on the right, whether it’s the continual insistence that tax cuts pay for themselves or Paul Ryan budgets that assumed that discretionary spending could be cut to Calvin Coolidge levels.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/opinion/did-warren-pass-the-medicare-test-i-think-so.html
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Krugman's right in that congress, as it exists today, is unlikely to pass blm Nov 2019 #1
and in 2022 crazytown Nov 2019 #4
Exactly. And we do it again in 2024. blm Nov 2019 #6
"FDR proud of us" crazytown Nov 2019 #9
K&R & thanks. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #2
"A public-option-type plan, which lets people buy into Medicare, would have better chance . . . . ." Hoyt Nov 2019 #3
No question at all Hoyt, crazytown Nov 2019 #5
The middle-roaders were singing a different tune in 2010 wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #40
In this congress, yes. That's reality. We'll increase our numbers blm Nov 2019 #8
I haven't forgotten the treachery of Lieberman et al. crazytown Nov 2019 #10
As I said when I posted about Krugman's comments a couple off days ago highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7
The point I think he is making is the sums add up: crazytown Nov 2019 #11
Yeah, but some here prefer to exercise their spin agenda. blm Nov 2019 #12
Not just spin on DU crazytown Nov 2019 #16
So he's giving her a pat on the head for homework. She even tweeted after she released the details highplainsdem Nov 2019 #13
"She brought in real experts crazytown Nov 2019 #15
You can do all the homework in the world on plans that have zero chance of passing, and it's still a highplainsdem Nov 2019 #17
"I'd bet Warren had most of these numbers months ago" crazytown Nov 2019 #18
Do you really believe that Warren, with her attention to plans, HADN'T looked into possible highplainsdem Nov 2019 #20
Yes, she does. Every chance she gets. blm Nov 2019 #21
There's enough FUD going about to suggest crazytown Nov 2019 #23
Some even using GDP to post RW op eds from RW lie machine. blm Nov 2019 #24
I know, crazytown Nov 2019 #25
That's both false and a personal attack. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #26
No.. I think "she's" trying to get to the Cha Nov 2019 #36
I will take Krugman's word for it. beastie boy Nov 2019 #14
The math for Warren's health-care plan adds up if you accept its ludicrous premise Gothmog Nov 2019 #19
Posting RW op ed from one of Hugh Hewitt's favorite RW guests? blm Nov 2019 #22
Even Krugman, who's called himself a huge fan of Warren's, admits her math is questionable. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #27
Krugman Likes the plan, and THIS congress won't pass it. blm Nov 2019 #37
Another personal attack. You owe me an apology. And I haven't spun what Krugman said. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #38
It's become routine for some Biden supporters Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #28
They really BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #32
It doesn't help their candidate Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #34
I thought we were supposed to believe Krugman dpibel Nov 2019 #29
You've noticed that BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #33
Just like the polls Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #35
Krugman admits Warren's numbers are questionable and that MFA won't pass. But he highplainsdem Nov 2019 #39
Warren has performed a political miracle for Medicare for All andym Nov 2019 #30
"(saving) middle-class and upper class people a lot of money" crazytown Nov 2019 #31
I think there SHOULD BE middle class tax hikes Martin Eden Nov 2019 #41
I am in favor of the tax system becoming more progressive: crazytown Nov 2019 #42
I'm in favor of a more progressive tax as well. Martin Eden Nov 2019 #43
"We have to bring deficits under control" crazytown Nov 2019 #44
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