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Gothmog

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19. The math for Warren's health-care plan adds up if you accept its ludicrous premise
Sun Nov 3, 2019, 11:12 AM
Nov 2019

The assumptions on which the Warren plan is based are really amusing




The bad news is that Warren’s assumptions are crazier than keeping a pet rhinoceros, after which, who cares that her calculator works? This is to actual policymaking as the plastic noodles in a ramen-bar window is to lunch.

To wit: Warren says she can deliver a generous Medicare-for-all plan with only $20.5 trillion in additional federal spending. That’s a quarter to a third less than any serious estimate of the plan from outside her campaign. How will she get there? Why, by slashing administrative costs and then mandating that everything else cost less. Warren is not exactly the first progressive reformer to have this same idea, and if she pushes forward with it, she will be but the next in a long line to discover that she can’t make it work, politically or economically. As Philip Klein of the Washington Examiner dryly noted, Warren could just as well have written that Mexico was going to pay for her big, beautiful plan.....

The best you can say for all of this is that none of it will happen. If Warren makes it to the White House, and tries to pass a plan, the Congressional Budget Office will eventually attach more reasonable numbers, with more defensible assumptions, sparking an even more spectacular political blowback than the one that greeted Friday’s announcement. Outside of the progressive Twitterati, there isn’t necessarily an enormous constituency for spending $20.5 trillion to herd every American into a national health insurance program; there would be even less support for spending what Warren’s plan would actually cost
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And even if she somehow pushed her program through, there’s a good chance that courts would strike it down, because so many of the revenue-raisers may be unconstitutional. Between the problems with her wealth taxes (Article I, Section 9), her plan to divert employer premiums to the government (ex post facto taxation of health benefits) and her requirement that state and local governments toss $3 trillion into the kitty (anti-commandeering doctrine), Warren would be a couple of adverse court decisions away from a $15 trillion hole in her $20 trillion plan.

Stripped of the Warren plan’s math-like veneer and the unreasonable reasoning, this is all rather embarrassing — or to steal a phrase, more of a slogan than a plan. It’s certainly not one of the highlights of Warren’s campaign.
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Krugman's right in that congress, as it exists today, is unlikely to pass blm Nov 2019 #1
and in 2022 crazytown Nov 2019 #4
Exactly. And we do it again in 2024. blm Nov 2019 #6
"FDR proud of us" crazytown Nov 2019 #9
K&R & thanks. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #2
"A public-option-type plan, which lets people buy into Medicare, would have better chance . . . . ." Hoyt Nov 2019 #3
No question at all Hoyt, crazytown Nov 2019 #5
The middle-roaders were singing a different tune in 2010 wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #40
In this congress, yes. That's reality. We'll increase our numbers blm Nov 2019 #8
I haven't forgotten the treachery of Lieberman et al. crazytown Nov 2019 #10
As I said when I posted about Krugman's comments a couple off days ago highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7
The point I think he is making is the sums add up: crazytown Nov 2019 #11
Yeah, but some here prefer to exercise their spin agenda. blm Nov 2019 #12
Not just spin on DU crazytown Nov 2019 #16
So he's giving her a pat on the head for homework. She even tweeted after she released the details highplainsdem Nov 2019 #13
"She brought in real experts crazytown Nov 2019 #15
You can do all the homework in the world on plans that have zero chance of passing, and it's still a highplainsdem Nov 2019 #17
"I'd bet Warren had most of these numbers months ago" crazytown Nov 2019 #18
Do you really believe that Warren, with her attention to plans, HADN'T looked into possible highplainsdem Nov 2019 #20
Yes, she does. Every chance she gets. blm Nov 2019 #21
There's enough FUD going about to suggest crazytown Nov 2019 #23
Some even using GDP to post RW op eds from RW lie machine. blm Nov 2019 #24
I know, crazytown Nov 2019 #25
That's both false and a personal attack. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #26
No.. I think "she's" trying to get to the Cha Nov 2019 #36
I will take Krugman's word for it. beastie boy Nov 2019 #14
The math for Warren's health-care plan adds up if you accept its ludicrous premise Gothmog Nov 2019 #19
Posting RW op ed from one of Hugh Hewitt's favorite RW guests? blm Nov 2019 #22
Even Krugman, who's called himself a huge fan of Warren's, admits her math is questionable. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #27
Krugman Likes the plan, and THIS congress won't pass it. blm Nov 2019 #37
Another personal attack. You owe me an apology. And I haven't spun what Krugman said. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #38
It's become routine for some Biden supporters Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #28
They really BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #32
It doesn't help their candidate Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #34
I thought we were supposed to believe Krugman dpibel Nov 2019 #29
You've noticed that BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #33
Just like the polls Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #35
Krugman admits Warren's numbers are questionable and that MFA won't pass. But he highplainsdem Nov 2019 #39
Warren has performed a political miracle for Medicare for All andym Nov 2019 #30
"(saving) middle-class and upper class people a lot of money" crazytown Nov 2019 #31
I think there SHOULD BE middle class tax hikes Martin Eden Nov 2019 #41
I am in favor of the tax system becoming more progressive: crazytown Nov 2019 #42
I'm in favor of a more progressive tax as well. Martin Eden Nov 2019 #43
"We have to bring deficits under control" crazytown Nov 2019 #44
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