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andym

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30. Warren has performed a political miracle for Medicare for All

Sun Nov 3, 2019, 01:03 PM

Nov 2019

a plan/roadmap that on paper would save middle-class and upper class people a lot of money (premiums would be gone) without raising taxes on them-- but on business and the very wealthy. The increased business taxes are offset by not having to pay for private insurance for their workers.

Whether it could be passed is quite another thing. The numbers are a serious attempt, but as Krugman mentions, there will be a lot of skepticism. Government has been demonized by the Right and liberals themselves are skeptical of such a big plan. But that's what Warren would bring as President-- she would push the political consensus to the left, and why I support her.

The biggest win for a single payer plan would be the ability to negotiate costs downwards-- drugs, medical devices and possibly health care professional salaries.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Krugman: Did Warren Pass the Medicare Test? I Think So [View all] crazytown Nov 2019 OP

Krugman's right in that congress, as it exists today, is unlikely to pass blm Nov 2019 #1

and in 2022 crazytown Nov 2019 #4

Exactly. And we do it again in 2024. blm Nov 2019 #6

"FDR proud of us" crazytown Nov 2019 #9

K&R & thanks. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #2

"A public-option-type plan, which lets people buy into Medicare, would have better chance . . . . ." Hoyt Nov 2019 #3

No question at all Hoyt, crazytown Nov 2019 #5

The middle-roaders were singing a different tune in 2010 wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #40

In this congress, yes. That's reality. We'll increase our numbers blm Nov 2019 #8

I haven't forgotten the treachery of Lieberman et al. crazytown Nov 2019 #10

As I said when I posted about Krugman's comments a couple off days ago highplainsdem Nov 2019 #7

The point I think he is making is the sums add up: crazytown Nov 2019 #11

Yeah, but some here prefer to exercise their spin agenda. blm Nov 2019 #12

Not just spin on DU crazytown Nov 2019 #16

So he's giving her a pat on the head for homework. She even tweeted after she released the details highplainsdem Nov 2019 #13

"She brought in real experts crazytown Nov 2019 #15

You can do all the homework in the world on plans that have zero chance of passing, and it's still a highplainsdem Nov 2019 #17

"I'd bet Warren had most of these numbers months ago" crazytown Nov 2019 #18

Do you really believe that Warren, with her attention to plans, HADN'T looked into possible highplainsdem Nov 2019 #20

Yes, she does. Every chance she gets. blm Nov 2019 #21

There's enough FUD going about to suggest crazytown Nov 2019 #23

Some even using GDP to post RW op eds from RW lie machine. blm Nov 2019 #24

I know, crazytown Nov 2019 #25

That's both false and a personal attack. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #26

No.. I think "she's" trying to get to the Cha Nov 2019 #36

I will take Krugman's word for it. beastie boy Nov 2019 #14

The math for Warren's health-care plan adds up if you accept its ludicrous premise Gothmog Nov 2019 #19

Posting RW op ed from one of Hugh Hewitt's favorite RW guests? blm Nov 2019 #22

Even Krugman, who's called himself a huge fan of Warren's, admits her math is questionable. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #27

Krugman Likes the plan, and THIS congress won't pass it. blm Nov 2019 #37

Another personal attack. You owe me an apology. And I haven't spun what Krugman said. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #38

It's become routine for some Biden supporters Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #28

They really BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #32

It doesn't help their candidate Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #34

I thought we were supposed to believe Krugman dpibel Nov 2019 #29

You've noticed that BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #33

Just like the polls Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #35

Krugman admits Warren's numbers are questionable and that MFA won't pass. But he highplainsdem Nov 2019 #39

Warren has performed a political miracle for Medicare for All andym Nov 2019 #30

"(saving) middle-class and upper class people a lot of money" crazytown Nov 2019 #31

I think there SHOULD BE middle class tax hikes Martin Eden Nov 2019 #41

I am in favor of the tax system becoming more progressive: crazytown Nov 2019 #42

I'm in favor of a more progressive tax as well. Martin Eden Nov 2019 #43

"We have to bring deficits under control" crazytown Nov 2019 #44