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George II

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25. There are huge holes in both of them.

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Sun Nov 3, 2019, 06:22 PM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Warren's MFA-funding plan would punish businesses now providing better insurance than they have to [View all] highplainsdem Nov 2019 OP

Ah, here comes the anti-MFA crowd peddling industry and right wing talking points again. LonePirate Nov 2019 #1

That's how you describe Ezra Klein and Vox? LOL! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #2

"incentivize businesses to provide worse (cheaper) insurance" is a RW talking point LonePirate Nov 2019 #3

Pointing out economic incentives Warren's plan creates is simply an observation. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #5

Please provide a few examples of businesses providing better plans than the Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #20

that isn't what is being said dsc Nov 2019 #45

Exactly! Thank you! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #47

Try reading the OP. From the excerpt I quoted: highplainsdem Nov 2019 #46

Yeah, you stand by calling "Ezra Klein & Vox rw".. it Cha Nov 2019 #33

What "right wing talking points"? Because the opinion differs from yours? Here's a question.... George II Nov 2019 #7

The RW talking point is worse insurance at a higher cost while today's system is better and cheaper. LonePirate Nov 2019 #9

I live in Connecticut and am on Medicare, thank you! George II Nov 2019 #10

Why are you on Medicare if private insurance is cheaper and better? LonePirate Nov 2019 #13

Because I'm over 65. The Medicare in "Medicare for All" is entirely different from my Medicare. George II Nov 2019 #14

Except it is not. There will not be separate MFA and Medicare systems. LonePirate Nov 2019 #15

But IF "Medicare for All" is implemented it will differ drastically from the current Medicare system George II Nov 2019 #18

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Do some research into how the current Medicare program works and is administered. George II Nov 2019 #22

M4A is far different than Medicare. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #37

Yes, using the "Medicare" terminology is a major misnomer. George II Nov 2019 #41

Both the Senate and House bills propose plans that are vastly superior to medicare. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #23

There are huge holes in both of them. George II Nov 2019 #25

Um, please be specific. Compared to medicare what 'huge holes' are there? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #29

Than I am definitely against it...sis in law can't get any more therapy in house because of medicare Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #39

"How Health Inurance Industry allies are going to lie and attack Warren's MFA Plan"- Wendel Potter sop Nov 2019 #36

There is a name for posts like this. It must be quiet over at JPR this time of year still_one Nov 2019 #59

This could end all the joys of the current system! BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #4

Congrats fellow senior (for healthcare purposes)! Backseat Driver Nov 2019 #11

That's not me...it's from this most excellent Wendell Potter diary BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #12

You said that was "from a commenter at Kos". OilemFirchen Nov 2019 #40

Our health care system is a cruel joke and everyone wants to move on from Obamacare BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #43

"..Everyone.."? No.. Biden's plan is winning. Cha Nov 2019 #50

Joe Biden Wants to "Get Rid" of Half of Obamacare BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #51

Private insurance just does not work Onthefly Nov 2019 #16

+1000! KPN Nov 2019 #21

That's the big drawback to these "M4A" plans that do away with private insurance. LOTS of people... George II Nov 2019 #6

I'm beginning to be persuaded that I might change my mind... LAS14 Nov 2019 #60

I'd be willing to bet that most of us do not work for those businesses. BluesRunTheGame Nov 2019 #8

Millions of state and fed workers and those in large union negotiated pools do have excellent emmaverybo Nov 2019 #27

And those plans are superior to what is proposed for MFA? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #30

I don't know what M4All will end up being like. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #32

Evasive non answer. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #55

Yes, and their excellent plans are guaranteed.. Cha Nov 2019 #34

Many have unaffordable shitty plans. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #56

Seriously?!!! This is your answer? BluesRunTheGame Nov 2019 #48

Harris has the best plan Andy823 Nov 2019 #17

Yes she does. mcar Nov 2019 #44

Yeah they seem to be to busy to bother Andy823 Nov 2019 #49

You'll be accused of everything Right Wing under the sun; regardless of facts. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #24

I'm used to the kvetching from the usual gang. I'll keep posting facts anyway. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #26

Thanks for keeping keeping on. We need various sources of information and analysis. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #28

That's their default.. they think it works.. it Cha Nov 2019 #35

These exchanges of Opinion on MFA are very informative ritapria Nov 2019 #31

SSDD eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #38

You saw Ezra Klein's analysis posted elsewhere here? Excellent analysis. EJ Dionne tweet: highplainsdem Nov 2019 #42

Yes, it's a worthwhile read BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #53

I'm glad you looked at Klein's analysis, and hope others will. As for relying on experts -- highplainsdem Nov 2019 #57

Thanks for your response. BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #58

Kicking this thread.. Cha Nov 2019 #61

Ezra's analysis is sound, but the employer inequality will just maintain the status quo andym Nov 2019 #52

Neither of those things are really penalties. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #54