Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
Joe BidenCongratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
 

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
70. Michigan is the third.
Mon Nov 4, 2019, 10:38 AM
Nov 2019
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
yeah that part about going back to vote for trump after voting in the blue wave...??? samnsara Nov 2019 #1
Hence why having Biden as the nominee is so important. bearsfootball516 Nov 2019 #2
That's the more important fact. Butterflylady Nov 2019 #48
I'm not sure how easy. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #153
All of those precious 'centrists' from 2018 are going to vote for trump again? RandiFan1290 Nov 2019 #3
hose moderates in red districts are why we Cha Nov 2019 #24
This country is governed by coalition builders zaj Nov 2019 #49
What a truckload of crap SterlingPound Nov 2019 #134
Hardly... zaj Nov 2019 #142
how laws get passed has nothing to do with how people get in office SterlingPound Nov 2019 #145
Who's going to bring the shouters out? zaj Nov 2019 #149
big businesses will always have a voice in the room SterlingPound Nov 2019 #152
I'm asking you... zaj Nov 2019 #154
Now if the ideologically pure centrists would just believe that. n/t MarcA Nov 2019 #166
The sure could. After a left left candidate is demonized as socialist... and they look at trillions Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #65
Biden will be labeled a Trotskyist TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #140
Nonsense, Biden can withstand any such criticism...as he has already done. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #143
"They" didn't and don't know what the ACA is or was SterlingPound Nov 2019 #144
Of course they know what the ACA is...we won moderates in 18 on the ACA and took back the house. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #147
"they" as in the American Populace while it was being passed SterlingPound Nov 2019 #148
What election do you refer to...2010 was a disaster...2018 was a big success... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #156
It is actually worse than that among likely voters in those battle ground states. Only Biden is still_one Nov 2019 #4
The article says we need to win at least 3 of these. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #7
And, Michigan! Gov Whitmer! Cha Nov 2019 #25
Fingers crossed Cha. Any idea what Gov. Whitmer's approval is in MI? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #35
This is the latest I could find.. Cha Nov 2019 #42
She's running about a 30% net positive. That's wonderful. Thanks for that. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #45
The poll indicates an difference between registered and likely voters. I think Pa is most likely still_one Nov 2019 #26
Dont need FL or OH if we win back PA, MI, WI. honest.abe Nov 2019 #90
Biden will win Michigan and they don't mention it but Biden is up in Ohio against Trump as well. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #68
I've never been sure about AZ. Much like TX, they keep telling us we're so close, but it... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #74
Michigan is close...it will be a battle. Honestly, Ohio looks better right now on the ground...no Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #94
I would flip those. MI should be a lock, PA and WI more problematic. Celerity Nov 2019 #83
I guess I was hoping for somewhat of a hometown advantage for Joe in PA. nt Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #89
Not to add to the doom'n'gloom... regnaD kciN Nov 2019 #155
True but Hillary was way less popular than Biden and there is no Stein effect this year...and we are Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #160
Which probably means some of those who got swept up in the bluewave, will likely lose their... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #5
Kornacki is just regurgitating a NY Times Sienna College poll of battle ground states, and among the still_one Nov 2019 #9
The EC works to Republican's advantage. A national popular vote would exclude them from... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #14
I think he'd for sure take Michigan also. Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #20
yup. I think it will come down to either Ohio or Florida, assuming we get out the vote as you say still_one Nov 2019 #27
I think we have a better chance in Ohio but we were close in Florida in 18. However, if we win Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #96
Absolutely!!! still_one Nov 2019 #97
I'm afraid I've lost some of the optimism I gained in '08. NC went blue in '08 & switched back.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #32
It's a solid red state and will be one for years to come BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #53
No it isn't dsc Nov 2019 #63
It'll be red in 2020 BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #75
No it won't North Carolinians are tired of the Republican bs. rockfordfile Nov 2019 #181
LOL BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #187
Michigan. OliverQ Nov 2019 #21
Fingers crossed. My hope is that Biden wins them all, but as we only need 3, it's good to hear... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #31
Michigan is the third. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #70
Yes, it's a NYT Upshot and Siena College poll. NYT has a full story. femmedem Nov 2019 #6
and in this poll it favors Biden even more among likely voters still_one Nov 2019 #29
There's reason Trump wanted dirt on Biden. He's the one he fears dem4decades Nov 2019 #8
He wanted dirt on Warren too. He asked China to investigate her. OliverQ Nov 2019 #10
To the extent he sought dirt on Biden? Where's the investigation? dem4decades Nov 2019 #12
As this poll and there are others clearly show, Warren will not win the midwest. She will lose in Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #71
You don't know that. Half the country didn't vote. OliverQ Nov 2019 #76
There is not doubt that there is support for left-wing candidates in New York and California but not Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #86
Yes, Elizabeth is a much bigger threat to tRumpty Dumbty. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #128
Why does that matter? jcgoldie Nov 2019 #34
Really? You do realize that "fucking tool" figured out how to be elected President? dem4decades Nov 2019 #44
Wow, that's a seemingly foolish statement zaj Nov 2019 #51
Since when does Trump listen to talented professionals or behave in a rational manner? jcgoldie Nov 2019 #59
"Democrats are stuck in a doom loop of premature polling" redqueen Nov 2019 #11
Kornacki and his owners loves them some scary polling BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #15
I really hope people stop clicking and sharing garbage like this redqueen Nov 2019 #18
Yes BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #54
See the way you said something I didn't say? redqueen Nov 2019 #124
Poor OliverQ didn't click, just watched a conservative show Hortensis Nov 2019 #77
I would not call MJ a conservative show these days...and it is based on a poll...good poll. We Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #131
Joe's a lifelong moderate conservative who's committed Hortensis Nov 2019 #137
That is not true. Biden is not conservative...he is progressive. He put climate change and the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #141
You're misunderstanding what conservative and progressive are. Hortensis Nov 2019 #163
I see interesting point of view...I will read up on it. Thanks. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #177
Infotainment. First order of business is ratings. Ratings mean $$$. n/t MarcA Nov 2019 #167
It's premature polling until it's not... Drunken Irishman Nov 2019 #136
If you read the article you'll see when it's mathematically logical redqueen Nov 2019 #150
I did. Still didn't refute my point. Drunken Irishman Nov 2019 #172
This part. redqueen Nov 2019 #185
Yup. Still not refuting my point. Drunken Irishman Nov 2019 #188
Hmm. redqueen Nov 2019 #189
Looks like Morning Joe snowybirdie Nov 2019 #13
Yes. Americans are that shallow. Sadly. Raven123 Nov 2019 #16
And remember somewhere in the shadows INdemo Nov 2019 #106
Why should we bet on a risky choice this election? What is wrong with safe? Warren sure stayed emmaverybo Nov 2019 #115
Elizabeth Warren was the First to call for Trumps Impeachment and INdemo Nov 2019 #123
Right. So she was. Does not negate what I said. Not putting you on ignore. I made two emmaverybo Nov 2019 #135
You didn't read my entire post INdemo Nov 2019 #127
Thought it was three with one of those times being his quitting the race, not rejection. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #138
If MJ were honest, they'd admit that they've given Trump much more free airtime than any other.... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #19
I mean, yes Americans are that shallow. OliverQ Nov 2019 #23
"Are Americans really that shallow?" BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #55
Discussing polling comparisons is equal to saying Trump will win? brooklynite Nov 2019 #56
Siena/NYT are putting out pro-Trump outliers ritapria Nov 2019 #17
Is Kornacki ever full of shite? Cha Nov 2019 #22
Kornacki : He of the Big Mouth - and the Small Brain ritapria Nov 2019 #28
It is from the NY Times Cha based on the Sienna College, an A rated poll. It says that Biden is still_one Nov 2019 #36
Biden evertonfc Nov 2019 #30
People voted against Traitor45 and Republican policies hoping to improve their lives. tikka Nov 2019 #33
The problem is except in select areas, farming, auto industry, the economy "appears to be doing just still_one Nov 2019 #40
I would not include the farming community INdemo Nov 2019 #129
I meant the farming and auto industry have been hurt the worst by his policies, and even with this still_one Nov 2019 #139
Sorry I just mis-read your post INdemo Nov 2019 #183
That's sad. I hope their eyes are open now still_one Nov 2019 #184
nonsense that people who voted democraticin 2018 will vote trump in 2020, I suspect beachbumbob Nov 2019 #37
The polls say otherwise. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #72
+1 Celerity Nov 2019 #85
That's repug Kornacki's job to spew dangerous, skewed polls which favor trump. brush Nov 2019 #38
This is a good poll A+ and it is not the only one. Trump will beat all but Biden, I am convinced of Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #73
Thank you. I'm leaning Biden too. Polls continue to say he's the... brush Nov 2019 #78
I will vote for any Democrat, I just want Trump gone. I am hoping he has coattail for the Senate as Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #84
Abrams as VP would be good. She's mesmerizing on the stump... brush Nov 2019 #88
Recently she has said she is open to being a VP ...she said it before when she was considering a run Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #101
Emerson polling yesterday of Michigan shows Sanders winning Michigan by more than Biden. OliverQ Nov 2019 #126
Well that's one for Sanders as opposed to many for Biden. brush Nov 2019 #130
Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #132
No heart attack thougn, is a Democrat and won't be painted as... brush Nov 2019 #133
I pay as much attention to Kornacki as I do to my cat when she says her food bowl is empty Siwsan Nov 2019 #39
So... that means you pay very close attention to Kornacki? Otherwise, poor cat! nt LAS14 Nov 2019 #104
Sophie Stinky Toes is weird. If she sees anything but solid food, to her it's an empty bowl Siwsan Nov 2019 #120
:-) LAS14 Nov 2019 #122
The quickest path to victory was to win the one state with 38 electoral votes TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #41
No way were we going to win Texas. Tipperary Nov 2019 #161
Wrong answer. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #165
So why did O'Rourke not win in his own state? Tipperary Nov 2019 #168
As I said, Cruz is more popular in Texas than Trump. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #174
I think rump is pretty likely to win Texas. Tipperary Nov 2019 #175
He is now TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #176
It has already begun in the house ...and one day Texas will again have a Democratic Senator Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #180
We did gain several House seats in the 2018 election. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #182
Dems are stuck campaigning in Iowa. 33taw Nov 2019 #43
Hopefully it's greatly undercounting the youth vote. JudyM Nov 2019 #46
I wouldn't hang my hat on the youth vote... comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #87
We can do a much better job of outreach to them, and they are more engaged than in the past. JudyM Nov 2019 #92
I hear this every year and ...it is always the same. They don't come out. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #103
Not true. There was a 79 percent increase in 18-29 turnout between 2014 and 2018. JudyM Nov 2019 #116
79% of a tiny amount... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #146
Another example of how statistics can be manipulated to deliver a desired message. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #173
So true...my Dad had a book 'how to lie with statistics...he was a salesman and later and inventor. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #178
B U L L S H *T MFM008 Nov 2019 #47
I am sure the ones showing your candidate ahead are meangiful to you...I know the ones Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #179
no MFM008 Nov 2019 #186
In my part of Wisconsin everyone has a cellphone. No land lines we move our number to a cellphone. usaf-vet Nov 2019 #50
I think we're all deluding ourselves. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #57
Bottom line is that it is going to be a battle next year that will take all hands on deck inwiththenew Nov 2019 #52
Another 'Only Biden' post crazytown Nov 2019 #58
Some of us were criticized and ridiculed when we said impeachment and/or moving too far left in our Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #60
Impeachment is the right thing to do regardless of the Politics. OliverQ Nov 2019 #67
Not if Trump remains and gets four more years and we lose the House. There is never a 'regardless Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #80
That is all speculation. honest.abe Nov 2019 #114
some of our house members are under water...was posted here earlier. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #158
I recall someone on DU saying that a paper bag could beat Trump. I hope that these polls wake us up. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #61
I had one tell me that they know Biden is the better candidate but they want a progressive candidate Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #64
Well, the polls definitely back up the view that Biden can beat Trump while the others can't. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #66
That has always been true. Some simply are determined to have a different candidate who will lose Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #81
Agreed. Some people just don't want Trump out of office as desperately as other people do. Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #99
I don't get it...do they really think the parties are the same or some such thing? Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #100
Anybody can say anything. Doesn't make it true... UncleNoel Nov 2019 #62
The polls will go up and down Turin_C3PO Nov 2019 #69
Likely voters DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #79
Warren will not do well in PA...I lived in that state for a number of years and worked elections. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #82
I've lived here my entire life DeminPennswoods Nov 2019 #91
She needs the Black vote and is not doing well with this...you have to rack up the numbers in Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #93
This is not reflected in the polls which provide the best predictor of outcomes. Gut feelings aren't Skya Rhen Nov 2019 #95
Well right now if they keep up the socialist name tagging we will lose..... Historic NY Nov 2019 #98
I'm counting on the trend of people choosing Warren after... LAS14 Nov 2019 #102
The superbeing candidate approach. Once they get to know our candidate, she will sweep the election Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #108
Like we had to "introduce" Obama? nt LAS14 Nov 2019 #110
Warren is not Obama. He was a more transcendent figure. He had extraordinary intellectual emmaverybo Nov 2019 #117
Well, I'm moved and inspired! And a bunch of others are also. It remains to be seen... LAS14 Nov 2019 #119
Yes. I do see that Warren's supporters are both inspired and moved by her message of emmaverybo Nov 2019 #121
Not even close to being the same thing...Obama ran a middle of the road campaign with wide appeal. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #159
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #105
Without math to back it up, Kornacki's touch screens are meaningless Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #107
Because of M4A. Liz Warren's campaign is tone-deaf. scheming daemons Nov 2019 #109
That right there, not listening, not using political insight, is the problem. It's like M4All emmaverybo Nov 2019 #118
This polling by Kornwacky, yeah well 🙄 ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2019 #111
I'm assuming Kornacki was talking about the NYT/Siena polls which showed Warren leading in Iowa, highplainsdem Nov 2019 #113
2016 Repeat kennetha Nov 2019 #112
So to update this, this Siena/NYT poll OliverQ Nov 2019 #125
Many things to look at TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #157
That usually happens with incumbents. But this time Trump is the incumbent...I was always told in Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #162
The first vote hasn't even been cast in the primaries jberryhill Nov 2019 #151
Yep. cwydro Nov 2019 #164
Of course, but the point is that regardless of where the electorate stands a year from now the totodeinhere Nov 2019 #171
I'm mentally preparing myself for Trump to win. Many democrats want the person helpisontheway Nov 2019 #169
This is why national polls may be interesting but as we know we don't elect presidents with the totodeinhere Nov 2019 #170
Lol, I still wonder how warren or sanders will okieinpain Nov 2019 #190
Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»Democratic Primaries»Kornacki just discussed s...»Reply #70