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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Kornacki just discussed some scary polling on Morning Joe [View all]Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)86. There is not doubt that there is support for left-wing candidates in New York and California but not
in the mid west. If we have a more fair direct votiing system, Warren or any of our fine candidates would win hands down. But we don't. And Warren (others too) will lose the EC and win the popular votes which is meaningless. Biden has a chance to destroy Trump. He is the most electable Democrat. And in order to get anything we must win in 2020. Also he has coattails for the Senate...Arizona is more likely to vote for a Democrat with Biden at the top of the ticket...Colorado too. And if he chooses Abrams as his VP, we have a shot at Georgia and North Carolina...possibly South Carolina and Texas as well.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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yeah that part about going back to vote for trump after voting in the blue wave...???
samnsara
Nov 2019
#1
All of those precious 'centrists' from 2018 are going to vote for trump again?
RandiFan1290
Nov 2019
#3
The sure could. After a left left candidate is demonized as socialist... and they look at trillions
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#65
Of course they know what the ACA is...we won moderates in 18 on the ACA and took back the house.
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#147
What election do you refer to...2010 was a disaster...2018 was a big success...
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#156
It is actually worse than that among likely voters in those battle ground states. Only Biden is
still_one
Nov 2019
#4
The poll indicates an difference between registered and likely voters. I think Pa is most likely
still_one
Nov 2019
#26
Biden will win Michigan and they don't mention it but Biden is up in Ohio against Trump as well.
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#68
I've never been sure about AZ. Much like TX, they keep telling us we're so close, but it...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#74
Michigan is close...it will be a battle. Honestly, Ohio looks better right now on the ground...no
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#94
I guess I was hoping for somewhat of a hometown advantage for Joe in PA. nt
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#89
True but Hillary was way less popular than Biden and there is no Stein effect this year...and we are
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#160
Which probably means some of those who got swept up in the bluewave, will likely lose their...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#5
Kornacki is just regurgitating a NY Times Sienna College poll of battle ground states, and among the
still_one
Nov 2019
#9
The EC works to Republican's advantage. A national popular vote would exclude them from...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#14
yup. I think it will come down to either Ohio or Florida, assuming we get out the vote as you say
still_one
Nov 2019
#27
I think we have a better chance in Ohio but we were close in Florida in 18. However, if we win
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#96
I'm afraid I've lost some of the optimism I gained in '08. NC went blue in '08 & switched back....
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#32
Fingers crossed. My hope is that Biden wins them all, but as we only need 3, it's good to hear...
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#31
As this poll and there are others clearly show, Warren will not win the midwest. She will lose in
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#71
There is not doubt that there is support for left-wing candidates in New York and California but not
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#86
Really? You do realize that "fucking tool" figured out how to be elected President?
dem4decades
Nov 2019
#44
Since when does Trump listen to talented professionals or behave in a rational manner?
jcgoldie
Nov 2019
#59
I would not call MJ a conservative show these days...and it is based on a poll...good poll. We
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#131
That is not true. Biden is not conservative...he is progressive. He put climate change and the
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#141
Why should we bet on a risky choice this election? What is wrong with safe? Warren sure stayed
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#115
Right. So she was. Does not negate what I said. Not putting you on ignore. I made two
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#135
Thought it was three with one of those times being his quitting the race, not rejection.
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#138
If MJ were honest, they'd admit that they've given Trump much more free airtime than any other....
Tarheel_Dem
Nov 2019
#19
It is from the NY Times Cha based on the Sienna College, an A rated poll. It says that Biden is
still_one
Nov 2019
#36
People voted against Traitor45 and Republican policies hoping to improve their lives.
tikka
Nov 2019
#33
The problem is except in select areas, farming, auto industry, the economy "appears to be doing just
still_one
Nov 2019
#40
I meant the farming and auto industry have been hurt the worst by his policies, and even with this
still_one
Nov 2019
#139
nonsense that people who voted democraticin 2018 will vote trump in 2020, I suspect
beachbumbob
Nov 2019
#37
This is a good poll A+ and it is not the only one. Trump will beat all but Biden, I am convinced of
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#73
I will vote for any Democrat, I just want Trump gone. I am hoping he has coattail for the Senate as
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#84
Recently she has said she is open to being a VP ...she said it before when she was considering a run
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#101
Emerson polling yesterday of Michigan shows Sanders winning Michigan by more than Biden.
OliverQ
Nov 2019
#126
I pay as much attention to Kornacki as I do to my cat when she says her food bowl is empty
Siwsan
Nov 2019
#39
So... that means you pay very close attention to Kornacki? Otherwise, poor cat! nt
LAS14
Nov 2019
#104
Sophie Stinky Toes is weird. If she sees anything but solid food, to her it's an empty bowl
Siwsan
Nov 2019
#120
The quickest path to victory was to win the one state with 38 electoral votes
TexasTowelie
Nov 2019
#41
It has already begun in the house ...and one day Texas will again have a Democratic Senator
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#180
We can do a much better job of outreach to them, and they are more engaged than in the past.
JudyM
Nov 2019
#92
Not true. There was a 79 percent increase in 18-29 turnout between 2014 and 2018.
JudyM
Nov 2019
#116
Another example of how statistics can be manipulated to deliver a desired message.
TexasTowelie
Nov 2019
#173
So true...my Dad had a book 'how to lie with statistics...he was a salesman and later and inventor.
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#178
I am sure the ones showing your candidate ahead are meangiful to you...I know the ones
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#179
In my part of Wisconsin everyone has a cellphone. No land lines we move our number to a cellphone.
usaf-vet
Nov 2019
#50
Bottom line is that it is going to be a battle next year that will take all hands on deck
inwiththenew
Nov 2019
#52
Some of us were criticized and ridiculed when we said impeachment and/or moving too far left in our
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#60
Not if Trump remains and gets four more years and we lose the House. There is never a 'regardless
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#80
I recall someone on DU saying that a paper bag could beat Trump. I hope that these polls wake us up.
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
#61
I had one tell me that they know Biden is the better candidate but they want a progressive candidate
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#64
Well, the polls definitely back up the view that Biden can beat Trump while the others can't.
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
#66
That has always been true. Some simply are determined to have a different candidate who will lose
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#81
Agreed. Some people just don't want Trump out of office as desperately as other people do.
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
#99
I don't get it...do they really think the parties are the same or some such thing?
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#100
Warren will not do well in PA...I lived in that state for a number of years and worked elections.
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#82
She needs the Black vote and is not doing well with this...you have to rack up the numbers in
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#93
This is not reflected in the polls which provide the best predictor of outcomes. Gut feelings aren't
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
#95
Well right now if they keep up the socialist name tagging we will lose.....
Historic NY
Nov 2019
#98
The superbeing candidate approach. Once they get to know our candidate, she will sweep the election
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#108
Warren is not Obama. He was a more transcendent figure. He had extraordinary intellectual
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#117
Well, I'm moved and inspired! And a bunch of others are also. It remains to be seen...
LAS14
Nov 2019
#119
Yes. I do see that Warren's supporters are both inspired and moved by her message of
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#121
Not even close to being the same thing...Obama ran a middle of the road campaign with wide appeal.
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#159
That right there, not listening, not using political insight, is the problem. It's like M4All
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#118
I'm assuming Kornacki was talking about the NYT/Siena polls which showed Warren leading in Iowa,
highplainsdem
Nov 2019
#113
That usually happens with incumbents. But this time Trump is the incumbent...I was always told in
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#162
Of course, but the point is that regardless of where the electorate stands a year from now the
totodeinhere
Nov 2019
#171
I'm mentally preparing myself for Trump to win. Many democrats want the person
helpisontheway
Nov 2019
#169
This is why national polls may be interesting but as we know we don't elect presidents with the
totodeinhere
Nov 2019
#170