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Kaleva

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33. Kids with working parents are dropped off by bus at a day care for those who can afford it.

Wed Nov 6, 2019, 01:55 PM

Nov 2019

Or they go to a member of the family or a friend's place.

I do not know of any grade school kids that go home to an empty house but I do know of jr. high and high school kids that do.

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The School Day Is Two Hours Shorter Than the Work Day. Kamala Harris Wants to Change That. [View all] mcar Nov 2019 OP

Yikes pattyloutwo Nov 2019 #1

Dumbest. Proposal. Ever. regnaD kciN Nov 2019 #5

Did you read the proposal? mcar Nov 2019 #7

It doesn't say anything about having the kids sit quietly all day. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #9

Yes. mcar Nov 2019 #19

me too JustAnotherGen Nov 2019 #53

I totally disagree with you. Blue_true Nov 2019 #83

So teachers would be working on site 52.5 hours each week? dsc Nov 2019 #2

Did you read the proposal? mcar Nov 2019 #8

Apparently not. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2019 #59

What about the children in those schools? MineralMan Nov 2019 #3

Good heavens, people, read the proposal! mcar Nov 2019 #10

I did read it. It had some sort of open-ended, vague description of MineralMan Nov 2019 #23

I honestly don't think your, or my, school experience is relevant here, MM mcar Nov 2019 #44

If you spent some time in my neighborhood in St. Paul, MN, MineralMan Nov 2019 #99

"you'll see a couple dozen kids in there every time, doing just what I used to do in my library" jberryhill Nov 2019 #102

Boys had to do that, too, sometimes. MineralMan Nov 2019 #105

Couple of things... thesquanderer Nov 2019 #97

Kids (at least below a certain age" need to be "locked up"--i.e. supervised--one way or another. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #12

You got it. It's a proposal, not a rule, or "plan" and a great... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #82

Many kids go to a day care after school or have to fend for themselves. Kaleva Nov 2019 #27

The school day is too long as it is for children, not to mention the hours teachers work Autumn Nov 2019 #4

Anybody think this isn't a good idea? Efilroft Sul Nov 2019 #6

I don't think it's a good idea at all. My grandson gets off the bus at 4 and he's worn out. Autumn Nov 2019 #14

My kids are wiped out, too. Efilroft Sul Nov 2019 #17

The homework my 13 year old grand daughter gets is ridiculous. That is somerthing that Autumn Nov 2019 #29

Anybody who believes the schoolwork and homework load will be lessened under this plan is naive. Efilroft Sul Nov 2019 #35

Again, read the proposal! mcar Nov 2019 #45

I read it. And I think kids have enough structured time after 6 or 7 hours in school. Efilroft Sul Nov 2019 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #62

Who said he'd have to "sit there" another 2 hours? mcar Nov 2019 #21

He has an adult at home because his mother gets off work early enough to be at home. As for Autumn Nov 2019 #25

"Perhaps employers should pay their employees more" mcar Nov 2019 #41

You are right, in the meantime, there are single mothers working 2 and 3 jobs to support their kids. Autumn Nov 2019 #70

The extra time at school can be spent in Physical Ed and proctored homework. Blue_true Nov 2019 #84

I think you greatly underestimate just how much homework kids are given these days. Efilroft Sul Nov 2019 #108

Then we reform the meaning of homework and when it is done. Blue_true Nov 2019 #121

I get where you're coming from with the team approach. Efilroft Sul Nov 2019 #122

We need to both pay our teachers more and expect more from them. Blue_true Nov 2019 #123

It is a bad idea. More time for kids to get into trouble too...we already have a school to Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #107

So many negative comments by people I suspect did not read the proposal mcar Nov 2019 #11

Not reading the actual proposal gives license to throw ignorance at the wall... LanternWaste Nov 2019 #56

Looks like people are reacting before reading redqueen Nov 2019 #13

Thank you, redqueen mcar Nov 2019 #16

Exactly - this will give kids from lower income families redqueen Nov 2019 #24

I agree. It appears people are reacting without reading the proposal and thinking about it. Kaleva Nov 2019 #28

When I was a member oof the teachers union I really didn't care much comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #71

If starting fresh what kind of school system would we build delisen Nov 2019 #15

I wouldn't be one based on an agrarian calendar, that's for sure mcar Nov 2019 #18

I think that it is insane that our teachers have to look for summer jobs, often Blue_true Nov 2019 #85

Schools have been dismissed at about 3:00 for decades, if not longer. Not a good idea.... George II Nov 2019 #20

You are talking about high school, George. mcar Nov 2019 #22

"I highly doubt many 8 year olds take a bus and subway 90 minutes to school each day on their own." MineralMan Nov 2019 #30

I live in a rural area mcar Nov 2019 #38

And in my community there is school choice from Grade 1. MineralMan Nov 2019 #43

I just added this to my previous post mcar Nov 2019 #46

I am surprised, I don't have kids, but kids in my Florida county go to Blue_true Nov 2019 #87

Wow boomer_wv Nov 2019 #26

This is a proposal for a pilot program involving 500 schools. Kaleva Nov 2019 #31

"Most people?" mcar Nov 2019 #47

Ok. boomer_wv Nov 2019 #75

And many of those on this board mcar Nov 2019 #76

when I was a kid, we lived in France just down the street from a demigoddess Nov 2019 #32

I believe that grades Pre-K through 9th should have a master teacher and Blue_true Nov 2019 #88

Kids with working parents are dropped off by bus at a day care for those who can afford it. Kaleva Nov 2019 #33

For those who can afford it mcar Nov 2019 #48

Thanks for posting, mcar... PunkinPi Nov 2019 #34

+1 Kaleva Nov 2019 #36

Thanks mcar Nov 2019 #39

Bad bad bad idea. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #37

The president of the American Federation of Teachers union supports the proposal Kaleva Nov 2019 #40

AFT Union (1.7 million teachers and other education professionals) PunkinPi Nov 2019 #42

I find it odd, and disappointing, mcar Nov 2019 #49

It is disappointing and shows a lack of empathy for other people's situations. nt PunkinPi Nov 2019 #50

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #64

A. Families would opt in voluntarily mcar Nov 2019 #65

You are okay with them going to day care after school I guess. Kaleva Nov 2019 #86

We can't get enough money as it is...won't work. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #54

Why the negativity? mcar Nov 2019 #66

First of all funding is always an issue...not GOP at all as someone said you have to consider this. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #100

Yes, it's your opinion mcar Nov 2019 #109

Europe has an entirely different system. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #110

Some after school programs are subsidized, not all mcar Nov 2019 #112

That is not necessarily true that all kids are in a program...my experience and I worked Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #115

"We can't get enough money as it is" sounds like the Republican response to any Dem initiative! thesquanderer Nov 2019 #98

I think eight or nine hours at school is too many. There should be after school programs for low Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #101

re: "you insist on making the program available for everyone" thesquanderer Nov 2019 #114

I get that but it is not needed for higher income parents and increases the costs and waters down Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #117

Why? Some kids could very much benefit from the extra enrichment. (nt) ehrnst Nov 2019 #58

It has been my experience when I taught that kids need more down time...and forcing kids who Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #103

I know of kids who need this extra time to gain social and academic skills, and their parents ehrnst Nov 2019 #125

I'm finding the rejection of this plan, mcar Nov 2019 #128

Terrible idea. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #51

Her solution is make the school day longer? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #52

Wrong... PunkinPi Nov 2019 #92

Calling something by a different name doesn't change its essential nature. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #94

Her plan offers choice of extended hours and makes nothing mandatory. nt PunkinPi Nov 2019 #95

A school for underserved kids where I lived tried to do this - to give those kids more services. ehrnst Nov 2019 #57

When I worked at a low income school in Connecticut...the problem was not enrichment but teaching Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #104

The kids in this school's parents work 3 jobs on average and many kids come in with a language ehrnst Nov 2019 #124

No thanks quakerboy Nov 2019 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Nov 2019 #61

Just what we need, school buses added to rush hour traffic. oasis Nov 2019 #63

For Gods sake everyone Kamala Harris is not trying to make your kids go to school until 6 pm! mcar Nov 2019 #67

National League of Cities endorses Harris planlan mcar Nov 2019 #68

Here is a article on school years world wide whistler162 Nov 2019 #69

My nephew lives in Switzerland mcar Nov 2019 #74

We should boomer_wv Nov 2019 #81

Old article or incorrect article? whistler162 Nov 2019 #91

Most teachers get really tired of being experimented on by politicians. At least comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #72

It's not about teachers mcar Nov 2019 #73

Since I actually read the article and would have loved this program when I was a single mom nini Nov 2019 #77

Thanks nini mcar Nov 2019 #96

There's a lot of sense in this proposal, but it has to be framed and approached VERY carefully. Music Man Nov 2019 #78

Cut work hours to match school hours, but don't cut pay. liberalmuse Nov 2019 #79

So if you live in a city like LA and have a crappy commute nini Nov 2019 #80

All except teachers and support staff... whistler162 Nov 2019 #90

Freepers aren't supportive of Senator Harris's proposal Kaleva Nov 2019 #89

What is your point? That if we disagree with this plan, we are 'freepers'? How about I don't want Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #106

Here's a supportive twitter video, which explains Kamala's proposal. PunkinPi Nov 2019 #93

Many schools release at 3:30 and kids get home as late as 5 PM on the bus jcgoldie Nov 2019 #111

Wouldn't it be better for those kids to be in some kind of quality after-care program mcar Nov 2019 #113

Maybe jcgoldie Nov 2019 #116

It would only be after school mcar Nov 2019 #118

My husband used to pick up my son from school on his way home from Ilsa Nov 2019 #119

Yes, they do mcar Nov 2019 #120

SHORTEN THE WORK DAY!!! Thats the modern realistic solution. Education is not babysitting. Finland rainy Nov 2019 #126

Here are some actual working parents view the Family Friendly Schools Act... PunkinPi Nov 2019 #127