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Hortensis

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13. On narrative: "you need our altitude to be both higher and lower.
Thu Mar 21, 2019, 06:38 AM
Mar 2019
Higher in the sense that I think we need to talk about values and principles, that's why I'm out there talking about what freedom and democracy and security mean before we get into the depth of any policy idea. And at the same time also be talking in terms that are nearer to the ground, really explaining what we believe in in terms of everyday lived experience and how different under us it will be than under them.

Too often even many Democrats can't explain the high of what who we are as a party and what we believe in and fall victim to hostile manipulators on both right and left who rush to fill the holes in their understanding.

Thomas Jefferson on gay rights and the constitution as a living document:
“Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.” ~ Thomas Jefferson

“Laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the general progress of the human mind.

Jefferson's principles are intrinsically liberal and natural products of humanism and The Enlightenment. Those strong conservatives for whom they just don't ping have nothing to replace long-established philosophies but knee-jerk resistance to change and yearning for leaders to fill in the blanks for them.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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everything on twitter is true dont ya know? nt msongs Mar 2019 #1
Watson didn't lie Talking Tom Mar 2019 #17
Mayor Pete is steadily rising democrank Mar 2019 #2
I finally can pronounce his name (it is Maltese) right too! lol Celerity Mar 2019 #5
Not quite. It's BOOT-edge--edge. marylandblue Mar 2019 #14
They are both basically the same, we listened to a video Celerity Mar 2019 #29
Mine too and lots of others... must be time then to give Mayor Pete the "Bernie treatment"!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #33
Best comment in Wonkette thread: betsuni Mar 2019 #3
sounds about par for the course, including many MSM talking heads who now are Celerity Mar 2019 #4
+1 PunkinPi Mar 2019 #28
I have always liked Mayor Pete. murielm99 Mar 2019 #6
Thanks to Celerity for this post, and to Wonkette for the Comments IndianaDave Mar 2019 #7
"I'm with her" was not Hillary's tag. It was our (supporters). STRONGER TOGETHER was HRC's tag. allgood33 Mar 2019 #8
he was talking about the buttons, shirts, etc etc that were ubiquitous and using it as a partially Celerity Mar 2019 #9
Watson's trick is to use out-of-context chopped quotes and badly photo shopped pictures . Autumn Mar 2019 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni Mar 2019 #10
+1 MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #11
Morning Joe spent the first ten minutes talking about his interview yesterday, all really impressed. OnDoutside Mar 2019 #12
They SHOULD be impressed... VERY impressed!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #32
On narrative: "you need our altitude to be both higher and lower. Hortensis Mar 2019 #13
This isn't a dirty trick, he just said something extremely rogue emissary Mar 2019 #15
Notice he said "we," including himself, and he isn't wrong. marylandblue Mar 2019 #20
He's right that we need to express our principals. rogue emissary Mar 2019 #21
I don't think he thinks Clinton didn't champion our values. marylandblue Mar 2019 #22
That's the media failure and not the fault of rogue emissary Mar 2019 #23
I partly disagree about the media, messaging and cultivating the media marylandblue Mar 2019 #24
The standard policies they all have expressed. rogue emissary Mar 2019 #25
That's fine with me, but I understand if you prefer someone stronger on that. marylandblue Mar 2019 #26
Indeed, I also get that it's huge to have him in the race rogue emissary Mar 2019 #27
Buttigieg criticized Hillary Talking Tom Mar 2019 #16
He wasn't complaining about the nominee, he was complaining about the message. marylandblue Mar 2019 #19
Ding! Ding! Ding!... We hava winner!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #31
Mayor Pete was SO 100% right in that Esquire interview... how can people not see this? InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #30
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