Democratic Primaries

oldsoftie

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48. I have an issue with it, but money doesnt get you elected. YOU have to perform.

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:11 AM

Nov 2019

It only gets you noticed. Then its up to you. I'm not going to cry over CU when someone I dont like wins.
Do you think we'll have a Pres Steyer? He's the richest one running. He can buy ANY number of ads he wants to. Whats he got in the polls?
Meanwhile, Pete Buttegeig is running 2nd in Iowa. A young, small town mayor. Nobody thought Obama stood a chance in '08. Clinton had twice the money Trump did.

The main problem i have with CU is that it equates spending money with speech. No one is prevented from SPEAKING their mind if they're prevented from buying ads. But that would have to apply equally to every group; unions, teachers groups, cops, Koch bros, and any other group. IMO anyway

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bill Gates on a Wealth Tax [View all] brooklynite Nov 2019 OP

LOL NRaleighLiberal Nov 2019 #1

valid argument evertonfc Nov 2019 #2

Yep... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #4

In case you missed it... Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #18

You missed her healthcare funding proposal, she doubled the wealth tax last week. Hoyt Nov 2019 #26

If billionaires like Bill paid all they should pay Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #5

So... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #10

Your question suggests that one must be a billionaire to be a humanitarian. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #15

If we could build a just and humane society ArcticFox Nov 2019 #29

People are always supportive of taxing other people. n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #40

Any individual who has one billion should STFU. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #3

How much does J.K. Rowling "deserve" in your system? brooklynite Nov 2019 #7

Aha! pfeiffer Nov 2019 #11

I don't know how much she "deserves." Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #14

Here's some more thoughtful reasoning you and your snarky pals can snootily sneer at: Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #20

Thank you n/t Blaukraut Nov 2019 #25

Okay,I'll play... brooklynite Nov 2019 #32

LOL, ok! nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #8

And... pfeiffer Nov 2019 #12

Same. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #16

If that was the case we'd have had Pres Perot & Pres Forbes. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #13

Well, I used the presidency as shorthand. It doesn't have to be that exactly. Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2019 #17

So you have no problem with Citizen's United? MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #46

I have an issue with it, but money doesnt get you elected. YOU have to perform. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #48

Gates would pay 1.2 billion dollars annually under a 2% wealth tax ritapria Nov 2019 #6

Which shows you how little a "wealth tax' will raise. Its just a show. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #19

Gates is worth 106.8 billion Eko Nov 2019 #21

That would leave him with only 104 billion. And that's just the first year. Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #36

Ya, Eko Nov 2019 #37

I'm with you. I was just looking at your numbers and thinking of what Gates said. Midnight Writer Nov 2019 #42

tax evertonfc Nov 2019 #9

To fund everything Warren or Sanders promising requires lots of mil/billionaires. Hoyt Nov 2019 #22

That is the irony of this plan dansolo Nov 2019 #43

How does no one ever get this? There arent enough of them NOW to raise whats needed. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #49

If wealth was put to work instead of creating more wealth Prosper Nov 2019 #51

no person has ever earned a billion dollars. That's policy failure. gates being a great example Kurt V. Nov 2019 #23

So Bill Gates is worth 50 TRILLION? Rstrstx Nov 2019 #24

The poor oppressed billionaire. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #27

So he's worried about the rate? zaj Nov 2019 #28

Income tax is the fairest tax TheFarseer Nov 2019 #30

No, its not. Because 100s of billions, if not trillions, go untaxed & unaccounted for. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #50

If you're talking about income from a business TheFarseer Nov 2019 #55

"stated income" jobs. Forget offshore stuff & assets. I'm talking straight income. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #56

So TheFarseer Nov 2019 #57

I definitely agree. Taxes rarely ever generate the "projected" revenue oldsoftie Nov 2019 #58

Right TheFarseer Nov 2019 #59

Heres a story that will make you laugh & laugh: oldsoftie Nov 2019 #60

I don't know why this wealth tax is tied to M4A Turbineguy Nov 2019 #31

Warren says hello BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #33

Billionaires should not exist. Period. Joe941 Nov 2019 #34

If obtained legally I am fine with it. Just have them pay more taxes. nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #35

I'm not fine with it. Joe941 Nov 2019 #39

Who is saying Bill Gates should pay $100 Billion in taxes??? SKKY Nov 2019 #38

3% per year on billionaires PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #41

Assuming they keep their billions under their mattress. Cuthbert Allgood Nov 2019 #45

Right? MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #47

No because it is 3% of what you have left after 3% is deducted. Prosper Nov 2019 #52

What you have left over is still more than any one human should ever have. MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #44

Cursory observation of replies in this thread appears Prosper Nov 2019 #53

Honestly I dont care what the rich's opinion on the matter is. Joe941 Nov 2019 #54