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highplainsdem

(63,540 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:24 AM Nov 2019

The way the NYT released results for 7 state polls is a perfect example of pro-Warren media bias [View all]

Last edited Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Siena/NYT polled in 7 battleground states late last month, both for the Democratic primary and for the GE, and the findings for all 7 states overwhelmingly favored Joe Biden.

But the NYT chose to release the Iowa primary poll results first, and that got overwhelming media coverage, because it showed Warren in first place, followed by Sanders, Buttigieg, and Biden clear back in 4th.

OMG. Cue all the Biden haters in the media and online! His campaign was doooooooomed!!!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287330698

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/01/us/politics/iowa-poll-warren-biden.html

They did release results of the GE matchups a few days later and those were much more favorable for Biden, with him doing better than Warren against Trump.


But then they waited until today to release the primary results for the other 6 states.

Which showed Warren narrowly ahead in only 1 state -- Wisconsin, where she leads Biden by 2 points -- while Biden was ahead in the other 5 states by much wider margins:


https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287339562

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/us/politics/democrats-poll-moderates-battleground.html


The headline for the story about those 6 polls was, understandably, Democrats in Battleground States Prefer Moderate Nominee, Poll Shows.

That would also have been an accurate headline if they'd released all 7 state polls at the same time.

But that wouldn't have given the NYT their "OMG look at Warren surging and Biden failing!" narrative last week that the media seem so fond of.


Maybe -- MAYBE -- the media will give this poll showing Biden's advantage in the other states equal attention.

But I'm skeptical that they will, because it doesn't fit their pro-Warren narrative.


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Editing to link to a thread a month ago about Nate Silver tweeting that polls showing Biden doing well get less media attention:

Nate Silver: Count on media ignoring Fox News WI/SC polls since they don't match media narrative
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287301251


And another thread about this, also from last month:

538 staff discussion of media coverage being biased for Warren, esp coverage of polls
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1287306100

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden
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Their bias is for a horserace, so they need it to be close. nt tblue37 Nov 2019 #1
Charles Pierce disagrees with your assessment. blm Nov 2019 #2
I doubt very much NYT cares for Warren. beastie boy Nov 2019 #3
Good point, nice summary!! UncleNoel Nov 2019 #4
Awesome "analysis" BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #5
See the edited OP linked to what Nate Silver has said about the bias. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #12
Nate Silver has had his knickers in a twist ever since Warren rose in the polls BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #14
He doesn't like polls that have favorites and ignore or tamper with the sample size and massage data Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #21
Hmmm... I get it, but... zaj Nov 2019 #6
But there is a pro-Warren narrative...why do you suppose the Wisconsin poll was put out first and Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #22
I don't think it is pro-Warren bias, but rather the media's attempt still_one Nov 2019 #7
It has, many times. Charles Pierce just wrote about it. blm Nov 2019 #10
Appreciate that blm. and I am not surprised still_one Nov 2019 #18
Getting into tin foil hat territory now Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #8
See the edited OP for links to what Nate Silver has said about the bias. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #13
Nate Silver has been showing his bias Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #41
There are 4 to 5 OP bashing Biden everyday as you must know... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #23
your beefs seems to rest on a shaky assumption. mopinko Nov 2019 #9
No of course just a happy accident. They are in the tank for warren but cant really Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #16
Mopinko is right. These were different polls, done over different time periods. thesquanderer Nov 2019 #19
You miss the point...one of the six state polls was released early...shows Warren winning by two Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #28
No, that's incorrect. As I said, Iowa was one poll. The 6-state poll was done at a DIFFERENT time... thesquanderer Nov 2019 #40
It was done...the others were released later so... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #24
Pro-Warren narrative... lol! demmiblue Nov 2019 #11
Nate Silver and the 538 staff see it, too. See the edited OP. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #15
"pro-Warren narrative" jcgoldie Nov 2019 #17
Sorry completely accurate but it is still not working which shows Biden's strength...what does it Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #25
No clue your the expert on this... jcgoldie Nov 2019 #26
Illinois is unlike WI, MI and PA...I also lived in Illinois. In fact, I was born at Great Lakes. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #29
.... jcgoldie Nov 2019 #31
That is perfectly fine...I await with anticipation your learned opinion on this matter...it helps Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #35
K&R Scurrilous Nov 2019 #20
I'm not much on media bias -- except with FOX and similar -- but people would have griped had the Hoyt Nov 2019 #27
How about they get released at the same time...no reason why six of the six polls were not released Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #30
I just don't think there is always a nefarious reason for way things happen. Iowa and NH occur the Hoyt Nov 2019 #33
I would add that all of this favors Warren wouldn't you think a result based on chance would show Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #36
I think the fizzle may have begun...I don't consider Iowa essential to any candidate...I say this Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #37
Horserace Reporting erpowers Nov 2019 #32
It's funny how when Bernie says this stuff he's "just like trump" and people jabber about... Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #34
I have never said that...I believe Bernie is firmly in second place...and the media has their finger Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #38
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