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Drunken Irishman

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5. We don't have a Clinton or Obama...
Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:51 PM
Nov 2019

But that's okay. They were once in a generation level politicians. They rarely ever come around consistently. The GOP has been trying to find its Reagan since the 80s and they've utterly failed - yet have been able to win the White House three times despite Reagan's shadow (without the coalition that gave us Reagan, BTW).

The reality is that the Democrats can't bank on the idea that the only way they'll ever win the White House is if they have that type of candidate. It seems, unfortunately, at least since JFK, that's exactly what our mindset has become - and it hurts us for it because it sends out this message that we'll only be motivated to vote by that specific candidate.

I mentioned the GOP wanting a Reagan again but the fact is, they don't let it deter them from voting.

H.W. Bush wasn't Reagan and they still voted for him.

Bush wasn't Reagan and they still voted for him.

Trump is certainly not Reagan and they still voted for him.

The only two Democrats to win the presidency, though? They were JFK incarnate. Bill Clinton was the Southern JFK. Obama was the Black JFK. Even though both were far more than just that ... but they were idolized as such. It feels like, with so many Democrats and liberals, it's an all or nothing approach when voting in the presidential election. We saw it in 2016 when a lot of liberals voted third party or stayed home - and I hope to god we don't see it in again in 2020.

The next nominee is going to have to build their own coalition. But liberals need to be on board and they shouldn't only be prodded to do so by making history or voting for someone who's insanely charismatic. We're not that superficial are we?

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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