Democratic Primaries

SomewhereInTheMiddle

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38. Apples to Oranges?

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Wed Nov 13, 2019, 11:02 AM

Nov 2019

My question is were the strategies to OP touted used in primaries or the general election. I believe they were used I the generals against republican opponents. Why is he comparing that to the strategies in use in primaries by candidates vying against other democrats for the nomination?

I have always heard “run left in the primaries and center in the general” as a truism for democratic presidential candidates. While glib, I think there is some truth to this. Right now I see a strong push among many of the primary candidates to highlight their progressive virtues. I do not know that the winning candidate, whoever it turns out to be, will do the same in the general election against trump. That seems to be where the strategies Emanuel is suggesting would be more effective.

Comparing primaries to generals seems flawed.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Dear Democrats: Here's How Not to Blow It - RAHM EMANUEL [View all] question everything Nov 2019 OP

Only memory i have of Rahm Emanuel tiredtoo Nov 2019 #1

Forgot that one!! Or, was it just the UAW?! Not sure. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #10

And the biggie.."fuck the internet's"and the millions of young people following President Obama. Ninga Nov 2019 #54

How About THe Way He Destroyed Howard Dean With PBO Me. Nov 2019 #58

valid argument evertonfc Nov 2019 #2

Thanks for the Advice Rahm ritapria Nov 2019 #3

Rahm's history of what we Won and how we Did Cha Nov 2019 #6

Rahm Pushed Through NAFTA ritapria Nov 2019 #8

Rahm is right in the OP. Cha Nov 2019 #9

I wish people wouldnt be so quick to be willing to risk losing the election Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #53

True that!! One of several bad policies. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #11

Yeah, and Sanders and Warren were bashing Obama and Clinton over trade, similar to Hoyt Nov 2019 #14

Advocacy of TPP was a Political Disaster ritapria Nov 2019 #17

It was "political disaster" because Sanders and Warren misinterpreted the agreements Hoyt Nov 2019 #21

Yes they were.. and Cha Nov 2019 #22

Moving the goalposts again, eh? LanternWaste Nov 2019 #50

So true...like him or hate him. He's a savvy politician that knows how to win Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #13

We are going to be the party that loses if we are not careful. I have heard some here saying the 18 Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #15

Funny how the right wing never worries about being too right wing, to the point of fascism. TeamPooka Nov 2019 #24

Because they have won over voters ...we have not done this...we need to get out and win the folks Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #39

Well said. Thank you question everything Nov 2019 #59

It is a good question...I also think in the past the GOP has had strong support in their party...but Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #61

I think you've nailed it... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #23

And yet, the arguments presented in the OP stopdiggin Nov 2019 #28

Yup, the the general public is more moderate than many want to admit Amishman Nov 2019 #48

Lets become the party of 'I win' and move the ball down the field...won't make our progressive Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #40

Rahm Emmanuel was instrumental in electing Barack Obama. George II Nov 2019 #36

Or, let's become the party that picks and choose "pro-choice" only when convenient question everything Nov 2019 #43

I believe he is absolutely right. TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #4

He's right.. I don't care what else he said.. Cha Nov 2019 #5

Exactly Cha. Blue_true Nov 2019 #19

Yep. All that "revolution" talk will turn the majority of voters off... Kahuna7 Nov 2019 #33

I'll take evolution over revolution any day. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #51

Rahm is absolutely correct. n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #7

He's got great advice. So he will be castigated by many here. Dont forget the goal; oldsoftie Nov 2019 #12

The candidates who insist on attacking MFA and the Green New Deal, really need to stop. DCofVA Nov 2019 #16

We can get 10 million new Voters ritapria Nov 2019 #18

working class voters are NOT terribly progressive stopdiggin Nov 2019 #30

I'm not asking for all the candidates to grow a spine and put their full support behind MFA... DCofVA Nov 2019 #55

I agree dgauss Nov 2019 #65

You can provide the data to support that claim? Or just another banal t-shirt slogan? LanternWaste Nov 2019 #52

This. BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #26

If that is what is supporting the Democratic Party than we are fucked....because the country is not Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #47

I like the fourth paragraph. Kitchen table issues. PatrickforO Nov 2019 #20

I am NOT a fan BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #25

Some very true words, BlueMTexpat democrank Nov 2019 #27

Ditto, and among other reasons, elleng Nov 2019 #29

Dems didn't get the most out of the agile and articulate Howard BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #35

We wouldn't even have the ACA if it had been up to Rahm. n/t demmiblue Nov 2019 #37

Absolutely! eom BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #64

Killing the messenger, again question everything Nov 2019 #45

Rahm Emmanuel is a slime mold and represents most of what is wrong in American politics pecosbob Nov 2019 #31

dems are gaining bc an irritated electorate backlash to an immoral and vulgar trump, being led by Kurt V. Nov 2019 #32

That is going to take you only so far...and the candidates suburban women are voting for are Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #41

I love Rahm, murielm99 Nov 2019 #34

You are correct...I was born at Great Lakes. Dad grew up in Chicago...lived their a good part of my Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #42

Apples to Oranges? SomewhereInTheMiddle Nov 2019 #38

The point is the primary is supposed to field a candidate that can win the Electoral College... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #44

Also about running left...if you run too far left when you attempt to move to the center...you can't Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #46

Exactly loyalsister Nov 2019 #49

Who fucking asked Rahm? Blue_Tires Nov 2019 #56

Then cover your ears question everything Nov 2019 #62

"unable"? Keep telling yourself that, bro... Blue_Tires Nov 2019 #66

He is right and is very savvy politically. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #63

So are John Edwards and Marc Rich... You want to take advice from them, too?? Blue_Tires Nov 2019 #67

Yes Because The Poor Stupid Dems Don't Know What The Heck They're Doing Me. Nov 2019 #57

Doesn't he have some police misconduct... tonedevil Nov 2019 #60