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Uncle Joe

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22. I totally agree with you Buzz cook, corporate is the keyword, this isn't the first time
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 04:10 PM
Nov 2019

and they don't care about learning any lessons from the past.

I remember when Matthews had a serious thing going on for George W. Bush; "he kept us safe!" I don't know whether to laugh or cry at that one.



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The Love Story distortion set the stage for the "I Invented the Internet" distortion, a devastating piece of propaganda that damaged Gore at the starting gate of his run. On March 9, 1999, CNN's Wolf Blitzer conducted an interview with Gore shortly before he officially announced his candidacy. In answer to a question about why Democrats should support him, Gore spoke about his record. "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative"—politico-speak for leadership—"in creating the Internet," he said, before going on to describe other accomplishments. It was true. In the 1970s, the Internet was a limited tool used by the Pentagon and universities for research. As a senator in the 80s, Gore sponsored two bills that turned this government program into an "information superhighway," a term Gore popularized, and made it accessible to all. Vinton Cerf, often called the father of the Internet, has claimed that the Internet would not be where it was without Gore's leadership on the issue. Even former Republican House speaker Newt Gingrich has said that "Gore is the person who, in the Congress, most systematically worked to make sure that we got to an Internet."

The press didn't object to Gore's statement until Texas Republican congressman Dick Armey led the charge, saying, "If the vice president created the Internet, then I created the interstate highway system." Republican congressman James Sensenbrenner released a statement with the headline, delusions of grandeur: vice president gore takes credit for creating the internet. CNN's Lou Dobbs was soon calling Gore's remark "a case study … in delusions of grandeur." A few days later the word "invented" entered the narrative. On March 15, a USA Today headline about Gore read, inventing the internet; March 16 on Hardball, Chris Matthews derided Gore for his claim that he "invented the Internet." Soon the distorted assertion was in the pages of the Los Angeles Times and The Boston Globe, and on the A.P. wire service. By early June, the word "invented" was actually being put in quotation marks, as though that were Gore's word of choice. Here's how Mimi Hall put it in USA Today: "A couple of Gore gaffes, including his assertion that he 'invented' the Internet, didn't help." And *Newsday'*s Elaine Povich ridiculed "Gore's widely mocked assertion that he 'invented' the Internet." (Thanks to the Web site the Daily Howler, the creation of Bob Somerby, a college roommate of Gore's, we have a chronicle of how the Internet story spiraled out of control.)

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The story picked up steam. "I was the one that started it all" became a quote featured in U.S. News & World Report and was repeated on the chat shows. On ABC's This Week, host George Stephanopoulos said, "Gore, again, revealed his Pinocchio problem. Says he was the model for Love Story, created the Internet. And this time he sort of discovered Love Canal." On two consecutive nights of Hardball, Chris Matthews brought up this same trio as examples of Gore's "delusionary" thinking. "What is it, the Zelig guy who keeps saying, 'I was the main character in Love Story. I invented the Internet. I invented Love Canal.…' It reminds me of Snoopy thinking he's the Red Baron." "It became part of the vocabulary," Matthews says today. "I don't think it had a thunderous impact on the voters." He concedes, however, that such stories were repeated too many times in the media.

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The reporters and opinion-makers have eagerly chewed over the possibility. After all, he's now a star. In step with the new enthusiasm for Gore, Dowd, in a February 2007 column, described him as "a man who was prescient on climate change, the Internet, terrorism, and Iraq," a sentiment echoed by many. The pundits, however, invariably come around to the same question: "But if he ran, would he revert to the 'old Gore'?" Another question—in light of countless recent stories about John Edwards's haircut—might be: Would the media revert to the old media?

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2007/10/gore200710





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Matthews has said, "I'm more conservative than people think I am.... I voted for George W. in 2000."[22] Salon.com has called him the "most conservative voice" on MSNBC's primetime lineup.[23] Matthews has been accused by Media Matters for America[24] of having panels of guests that skew to the right and of supporting Republicans in his own questions and comments.[25][26]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Matthews




If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Help help I'm being repressed. nycbos Nov 2019 #1
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There's never a bad time for a little Python. There's a clip for every occasion! NurseJackie Nov 2019 #10
And that clip is so versatile. nycbos Nov 2019 #13
Brilliant. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #17
Omg ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #20
Too bad that Sanders is such an obscure candidate that nobody knows about him..... brooklynite Nov 2019 #2
Plus, the premise of that "In These Times" article is simply not true. I don't know what.... George II Nov 2019 #7
These were their metrics. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #11
I thought Bernie supporters didn't like liberals... OldRed2450 Nov 2019 #24
Your bolded paragraph proves that their "analysis" is subjective at best. OilemFirchen Nov 2019 #31
The word stagnant is negative, one can report polls without commentary as to momentum or Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #32
The word "stagnant" is neutral. OilemFirchen Nov 2019 #34
Stagnant has negative connotations, it's not neutral. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #36
Good lord. OilemFirchen Nov 2019 #41
Commentary by pundits, it's almost always about the "horse race" or trivial bullshit, Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #42
This is what everyone is overlooking, and it couldn't be more important. JudyM Nov 2019 #46
Perhaps they don't think he's electable ? Haggis for Breakfast Nov 2019 #45
Guess MSNBC needs another Big Ed Schultz. Hoyt Nov 2019 #4
RIP Big Ed. SCVDem Nov 2019 #6
Not really... comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #47
Not as long as they Chris Hayes. n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #50
Maybe he could do another Fox town hall...nt SidDithers Nov 2019 #5
I'm sure that Wayne Messas has similar complaints Jose Garcia Nov 2019 #8
Mike Gravel Can't Believe His Polling Numbers Neck-And-Neck With Fucking Nobody Like Wayne Messam Celerity Nov 2019 #33
What no "GET OFF MY LAWN!!"? MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #44
We are each responsible to learn & decide OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #9
I am a liberal and I do not support Sanders, katmondoo Nov 2019 #12
Same here. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #15
Same here zeusdogmom Nov 2019 #26
My last choice too, even below Gabbard... comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #48
I thought we were all Center-Left now. Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #16
Same here Gothmog Nov 2019 #43
He gives the same speech over and over again. Happy Hoosier Nov 2019 #14
MSNBC is not liberal. Buzz cook Nov 2019 #18
Bingo. Nt Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #19
I totally agree with you Buzz cook, corporate is the keyword, this isn't the first time Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #22
msnbc is afterall just comcast with a different face questionseverything Nov 2019 #37
There is a consistency in your attempt to blame the media for Sanders' dismal performance. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #21
dismal performance? questionseverything Nov 2019 #38
he should drop out. that would get him attention. nt msongs Nov 2019 #23
You rock! NurseJackie Nov 2019 #29
Good idea!!!!!!! comradebillyboy Nov 2019 #49
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good handmade34 Nov 2019 #28
While I avoid criticizing any of our primary candidates, I usually underthematrix Nov 2019 #30
Rats. I think you are right. mahina Nov 2019 #35
Oh gee. A few weeks ago we Biden supporters thought LakeArenal Nov 2019 #39
If you read the article, you would know the answers to your questions. n/t Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #40
I dropped cable in 2015. I haven't watched MSNBC since and I'm fine with it. CentralMass Nov 2019 #51
What a shady article. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #52
LOL "outsized influence" on old people. Um, liberals aren't stupid. betsuni Nov 2019 #53
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