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In reply to the discussion: Pelosi: Ideas like Medicare For All and free college may fire up the left but won't beat Trump. [View all]Gothmog
(180,522 posts)131. Medicare for All would hurt down ballot candidates
I and a good number of real democrats are working hard to turn Texas blue. In 2018, we flipped 12 seats in the Texas House and 2 congressional seats. We need to pick up 9 seats in the Texas House of Representatives to flip this body and control redistricting. I am working on 2 campaigns for state house seats. The DCCC has targeted 6 congressional seats and I am working on one of these campaigns. If Texas down ballot candidates are forced to run on an unpopular policy such as Warren's plan, we will lose these races I really like Larry Sabato and agree with this study http://crystalball.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/medicare-for-all-a-vote-loser-in-2018-u-s-house-elections/
Medicare for All has emerged as a key issue in the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination campaign. Two of the leading candidates, Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), have made Medicare for All a central issue in their campaigns. Warrens and Sanders proposals would abolish private health insurance in the U.S. within a few years and move all Americans into a government health plan based on the current Medicare program but with no copayments or deductibles.
Several Democratic candidates, including former Vice President Joe Biden, who has led in most national polls, have been highly critical of this idea. These candidates, along with a number of health policy experts and pundits, have attacked Sanders and Warrens Medicare for All proposal as prohibitively expensive and politically unrealistic. They have also argued that embracing Medicare for All would alienate many independents and moderate Democrats and risk costing Democrats the electoral votes of several key swing states.....
Conclusions
An analysis of the impact of Medicare for All on the 2018 House elections indicates that Democratic challengers and open seat candidates in competitive districts who endorsed a version of Medicare for All similar to that proposed by Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren did significantly worse than those who did not. This negative effect, close to five points of margin after controlling for a variety of other factors, was clearly large enough to affect the outcomes of some House contests.
It is possible that the estimated effect of Medicare for All was a byproduct of other differences between supporters and non-supporters. For example, supporters might have taken more liberal positions on a variety of other issues as well as Medicare for All. Even if that is the case, however, these findings are not encouraging to supporters of Medicare for All. They indicate that candidates in competitive races who take positions to the left of the median voter could get punished at the polls. Democratic presidential candidates would do well to take heed of these results, particularly as the eventual nominee determines what he or she wishes to emphasize in the general election.
Several Democratic candidates, including former Vice President Joe Biden, who has led in most national polls, have been highly critical of this idea. These candidates, along with a number of health policy experts and pundits, have attacked Sanders and Warrens Medicare for All proposal as prohibitively expensive and politically unrealistic. They have also argued that embracing Medicare for All would alienate many independents and moderate Democrats and risk costing Democrats the electoral votes of several key swing states.....
Conclusions
An analysis of the impact of Medicare for All on the 2018 House elections indicates that Democratic challengers and open seat candidates in competitive districts who endorsed a version of Medicare for All similar to that proposed by Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren did significantly worse than those who did not. This negative effect, close to five points of margin after controlling for a variety of other factors, was clearly large enough to affect the outcomes of some House contests.
It is possible that the estimated effect of Medicare for All was a byproduct of other differences between supporters and non-supporters. For example, supporters might have taken more liberal positions on a variety of other issues as well as Medicare for All. Even if that is the case, however, these findings are not encouraging to supporters of Medicare for All. They indicate that candidates in competitive races who take positions to the left of the median voter could get punished at the polls. Democratic presidential candidates would do well to take heed of these results, particularly as the eventual nominee determines what he or she wishes to emphasize in the general election.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Pelosi: Ideas like Medicare For All and free college may fire up the left but won't beat Trump. [View all]
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
OP
If we don't beat trump there will not be universal health care for another generation becuase the
wasupaloopa
Nov 2019
#1
There won't be *any* health care, let alone universal health care.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2019
#28
Yup. The republicans are actively trying to invalidate the ACA behind the scenes through the courts
still_one
Nov 2019
#76
that quote pissed me off....running trillion bucks in the red is fine for repubs but when dems get
questionseverything
Nov 2019
#83
Good point. You could make the argument, "that's what we tried last time, and we lost...
thesquanderer
Nov 2019
#14
So having those ideas WILL beat trump in 2020? What's the rationale behind that, and how...
George II
Nov 2019
#34
Pelosi cautions 2020 Dems over liberal proposals: 'You must win the Electoral College'
Gothmog
Nov 2019
#115
Tremendous respect for her political insight. Nice to see her claim her position as a "left-wing
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#7
The concern is that they don't have snowball's chance of winning the general and will perhaps lose
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#82
One might even imagine that being concerned is part and parcel of her job description.
LanternWaste
Nov 2019
#143
Losing this election will do exactly the opposite...so maybe we need to run on those ideas that can
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#84
If nothing else please please remember the SCOTUS. RBG may not last thru 4 more years
Thekaspervote
Nov 2019
#18
You've gotta win first. If you lose, the only change is for the worse.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2019
#29
And before you alert on me or some such. I would love to see Warren's ideas enacted
Dream Girl
Nov 2019
#61
Yes, the Dems must abolutely win over the swing voters. All, what, twelve of them?
Girard442
Nov 2019
#27
Just about every California politician faces primary opponents. They have single primaries....
George II
Nov 2019
#43
What's wrong with good old presidential qualifications, sound and doable plans for healthcare,
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#50
Ambitious-sounding plans do not substitute for presidential qualifications or economically and
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#73
That sizable minority better turn out and vote, otherwise it's Trump for another 4 years
sop
Nov 2019
#97
They should vote, but not dictate to the majority. Educate, don't dictate, and don't threaten to
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#99
Example? I do not see ONE post that supports your claim. Have NEVER seen a LIBERAL say
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#126
The same thing that won the mid terms...the ACA with a public option...the GOP are trying to kill
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#88
No, people can do what they want...personally, I think it will take all hands to beat Trump and MFA
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#89
We have the ACA already and if we can all pull together we could possibly win and improve on it....
George II
Nov 2019
#37
San Francisco too for its multi-campus two year college. Another way to provide college access
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#101
She was never against impeachment, she just felt it wasn't time yet, and if you've been....
George II
Nov 2019
#42
You know impeachment is not really helping us yet...don't know if it will in the end. I expect she
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#90
That's so true. All those negative talking points don't have a clue who Elizabeth Warren
Scotch-Irish
Nov 2019
#93
It probably is a crock of shit but that won't stop repugs from running ads 24/7...
brush
Nov 2019
#98
omy goodness...so the repubs will lie,cheat and steal...well there is a surprise to no one
questionseverything
Nov 2019
#123
She's right. People are in la-la land thinking we will get elected with a far left agenda
Dream Girl
Nov 2019
#55
Pelosi is not moved by the left. She was moved by Trump's obsessive fear of the frontrunner which
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
#74
She's right. It's not about being liberal or not. It's about being smart or not.
maximusveritas
Nov 2019
#62
BOTH/AND - does it have to be either-or? Why not aim high, but be realistic at the same time - the
Kashkakat v.2.0
Nov 2019
#92
So it's either the left-progressive agenda as articulated by Sanders and Warren or it's
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#100
We ended up with Trump mainly because Russia helped put him over the top. By your definition,
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#106
Magical thinking: Bernie knows the only way is Revolution which only Bernie can bring on, Hillary
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#125
I think no progressive candidate has a mandate right now as none is in power. I think it would serve
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#128
She single handedly pushed though the ACA when it was all but dead...she is both...a visionary and
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#120
Exactly. So if far left want to stick with Bernie/Warren then they better not
helpisontheway
Nov 2019
#138
Nancy Pelosi is "not for doing away with Obamacare" and prefers to give people choices.
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#164