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In reply to the discussion: Pelosi: Ideas like Medicare For All and free college may fire up the left but won't beat Trump. [View all]Gothmog
(181,660 posts)133. That is why we need to listen to states like Michigan
Voters in a key swing state like Michigan are not sold on progressive candidates
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Democratic enthusiasm to vote against President Donald Trump in the 2020 election could be matched by Republicans motivated to oppose a more progressive nominee.
At least thats the historic argument for why a moderate Democrat could have the advantage in swing states, said Matt Grossman, director of Michigan State Universitys Institute for Public Policy and Social Research. While Democrats consider which of their candidates is best positioned to beat Trump, recent polling suggests Democrats in Michigan and other general election battlegrounds are motivated to vote but less enthusiastic about progressive policy ideas.,,,,
A majority of Democratic voters in Michigan put Medicare for All at the bottom of their health care priorities, the KFF survey found. Union members have also expressed issues with losing health benefits they fought for over decades of negotiations with employers.
Candidates in the moderate lane like Biden and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg favor expanding coverage under the Obama-era Affordable Care Act. Biden and Buttigieg support giving people the option of buying-in to Medicare but dont want to expand it to everyone.
Bidens campaign has come out swinging against Warrens Medicare for All plan, saying its too costly and would hike taxes on the middle-class.
Trump and other Republicans call Medicare for All a socialist" policy, portraying the plan as reckless and expensive. The danger of socialism is poised to get a lot of mileage in Republican campaign messaging during the next year, Grossman said.
At least thats the historic argument for why a moderate Democrat could have the advantage in swing states, said Matt Grossman, director of Michigan State Universitys Institute for Public Policy and Social Research. While Democrats consider which of their candidates is best positioned to beat Trump, recent polling suggests Democrats in Michigan and other general election battlegrounds are motivated to vote but less enthusiastic about progressive policy ideas.,,,,
A majority of Democratic voters in Michigan put Medicare for All at the bottom of their health care priorities, the KFF survey found. Union members have also expressed issues with losing health benefits they fought for over decades of negotiations with employers.
Candidates in the moderate lane like Biden and South Bend, Ind., Mayor Pete Buttigieg favor expanding coverage under the Obama-era Affordable Care Act. Biden and Buttigieg support giving people the option of buying-in to Medicare but dont want to expand it to everyone.
Bidens campaign has come out swinging against Warrens Medicare for All plan, saying its too costly and would hike taxes on the middle-class.
Trump and other Republicans call Medicare for All a socialist" policy, portraying the plan as reckless and expensive. The danger of socialism is poised to get a lot of mileage in Republican campaign messaging during the next year, Grossman said.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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Pelosi: Ideas like Medicare For All and free college may fire up the left but won't beat Trump. [View all]
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
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If we don't beat trump there will not be universal health care for another generation becuase the
wasupaloopa
Nov 2019
#1
There won't be *any* health care, let alone universal health care.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2019
#28
Yup. The republicans are actively trying to invalidate the ACA behind the scenes through the courts
still_one
Nov 2019
#76
that quote pissed me off....running trillion bucks in the red is fine for repubs but when dems get
questionseverything
Nov 2019
#83
Good point. You could make the argument, "that's what we tried last time, and we lost...
thesquanderer
Nov 2019
#14
So having those ideas WILL beat trump in 2020? What's the rationale behind that, and how...
George II
Nov 2019
#34
Pelosi cautions 2020 Dems over liberal proposals: 'You must win the Electoral College'
Gothmog
Nov 2019
#115
Tremendous respect for her political insight. Nice to see her claim her position as a "left-wing
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#7
The concern is that they don't have snowball's chance of winning the general and will perhaps lose
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#82
One might even imagine that being concerned is part and parcel of her job description.
LanternWaste
Nov 2019
#143
Losing this election will do exactly the opposite...so maybe we need to run on those ideas that can
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#84
If nothing else please please remember the SCOTUS. RBG may not last thru 4 more years
Thekaspervote
Nov 2019
#18
You've gotta win first. If you lose, the only change is for the worse.
The Velveteen Ocelot
Nov 2019
#29
And before you alert on me or some such. I would love to see Warren's ideas enacted
Dream Girl
Nov 2019
#61
Yes, the Dems must abolutely win over the swing voters. All, what, twelve of them?
Girard442
Nov 2019
#27
Just about every California politician faces primary opponents. They have single primaries....
George II
Nov 2019
#43
What's wrong with good old presidential qualifications, sound and doable plans for healthcare,
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#50
Ambitious-sounding plans do not substitute for presidential qualifications or economically and
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#73
That sizable minority better turn out and vote, otherwise it's Trump for another 4 years
sop
Nov 2019
#97
They should vote, but not dictate to the majority. Educate, don't dictate, and don't threaten to
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#99
Example? I do not see ONE post that supports your claim. Have NEVER seen a LIBERAL say
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#126
The same thing that won the mid terms...the ACA with a public option...the GOP are trying to kill
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#88
No, people can do what they want...personally, I think it will take all hands to beat Trump and MFA
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#89
We have the ACA already and if we can all pull together we could possibly win and improve on it....
George II
Nov 2019
#37
San Francisco too for its multi-campus two year college. Another way to provide college access
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#101
She was never against impeachment, she just felt it wasn't time yet, and if you've been....
George II
Nov 2019
#42
You know impeachment is not really helping us yet...don't know if it will in the end. I expect she
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#90
That's so true. All those negative talking points don't have a clue who Elizabeth Warren
Scotch-Irish
Nov 2019
#93
It probably is a crock of shit but that won't stop repugs from running ads 24/7...
brush
Nov 2019
#98
omy goodness...so the repubs will lie,cheat and steal...well there is a surprise to no one
questionseverything
Nov 2019
#123
She's right. People are in la-la land thinking we will get elected with a far left agenda
Dream Girl
Nov 2019
#55
Pelosi is not moved by the left. She was moved by Trump's obsessive fear of the frontrunner which
Skya Rhen
Nov 2019
#74
She's right. It's not about being liberal or not. It's about being smart or not.
maximusveritas
Nov 2019
#62
BOTH/AND - does it have to be either-or? Why not aim high, but be realistic at the same time - the
Kashkakat v.2.0
Nov 2019
#92
So it's either the left-progressive agenda as articulated by Sanders and Warren or it's
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#100
We ended up with Trump mainly because Russia helped put him over the top. By your definition,
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#106
Magical thinking: Bernie knows the only way is Revolution which only Bernie can bring on, Hillary
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#125
I think no progressive candidate has a mandate right now as none is in power. I think it would serve
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#128
She single handedly pushed though the ACA when it was all but dead...she is both...a visionary and
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#120
Exactly. So if far left want to stick with Bernie/Warren then they better not
helpisontheway
Nov 2019
#138
Nancy Pelosi is "not for doing away with Obamacare" and prefers to give people choices.
Gothmog
Dec 2019
#164