Democratic Primaries

madville

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12. They may be less for you

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 08:57 AM

Nov 2019

My current employer-provided health plan costs me $100 a month and my employer covers the rest. Raising my Medicare deduction or increasing my taxes will reduce my net income and there are millions of other people in similar situations.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Warren proposes a transition phase before Medicare-for-All [View all] RandySF Nov 2019 OP

As I've thought, it's foolish for candidates to propose 'specific' plans at this stage; elleng Nov 2019 #1

That's been my larger point through all of these grand plans... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #7

The Warren Plan ritapria Nov 2019 #2

No she hasn't dansolo Nov 2019 #8

i'd have done it a year at a time rampartc Nov 2019 #3

I see this new approach as a sign of her strength--she is will to work on different approaches and riversedge Nov 2019 #4

Exactly. BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #6

It is too late...and what do you suppose the real life consequences will be during the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #14

I totally agree. She is no longer in the pie-in-the-sky crowd that pays no... LAS14 Nov 2019 #19

It's a smart political move. I think she's decided to go for M4A in year 3 because the midterms... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #5

I think it is politically foolish dansolo Nov 2019 #9

And what do you think 'vote for us or lose your health care' will do to Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #15

So no middle class tax increases was a lie dansolo Nov 2019 #10

Yes it does. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #11

They may be less for you madville Nov 2019 #12

They will be less for many more Americans. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #18

The taxes won't be less...Hubs and I looked into it...we are not at retirement age but it will cost Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #16

And how did you calculate this? Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #17

Everything I have seen is a fairtytale...it will cost a fortune to put every person on Medicare for Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #20

So you didn't calculate it then? nt Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #22

I just told you I looked at the numbers and I think the 'assumptions' of saving are a fairy tale. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #23

You "looked at the numbers". Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #24

I looked at Warren's own numbers and have linked a discussion of those number which I find to be Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #29

Her numbers look good. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #31

They don't look good to me and are based on assumptions that I don't believe are true...which I Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #34

Everything I have seen is a fairtytale...it will cost a fortune to put every person on Medicare for Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #21

My Medicare costs me $135 a month. The three of you would pay $405 a month under MFA. stopbush Nov 2019 #28

This message was self-deleted by its author Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #30

Her wealth tax would fund a good portion of it. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #32

How many expensive programs will be funded by that wealth tax? stopbush Nov 2019 #33

Well, seeing as billionaires shouldn't exist, Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #35

Right. Empty platitudes that will never happen. Pipe dreams. stopbush Nov 2019 #36

Yeah, let's just be apathetic! nt Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #39

Not apathetic. Realistic. I am on Medicare. I wish everyone could be on Medicare. stopbush Nov 2019 #40

Fewer than 1000 billionaires in the USA. stopbush Nov 2019 #37

That's a lot of fucking billionaires... Especially when there shouldn't be a single one. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #38

Do I detect a whiff of moderate incrementalism in her proposal? beastie boy Nov 2019 #13

Nobel Prize winner: Warren's stepping stone plan, "a very good idea: Chambi Nov 2019 #25

MFA, with a short transition period, is still MFA. People who don't want MFA will still be against Hoyt Nov 2019 #26

Much better ismnotwasm Nov 2019 #27