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The Valley Below

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397. You do realize that the study you linked to was done BEFORE marijuana was legalized...

Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:23 PM

Nov 2019

here in California? Rates WERE dropping. Not anymore. Quite the opposite. And the exploding use is harming young people.

"The brain remains in a state of active, experience-guided development from the prenatal period through childhood and adolescence until the age of approximately 21 years.9 During these developmental periods, it is intrinsically more vulnerable than a mature brain to the adverse long-term effects of environmental insults, such as exposure to tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the primary active ingredient in marijuana. This view has received considerable support from studies in animals, which have shown, for example, that prenatal or adolescent exposure to THC can recalibrate the sensitivity of the reward system to other drugs10 and that prenatal exposure interferes with cytoskeletal dynamics, which are critical for the establishment of axonal connections between neurons.11"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4827335/

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Biden Says Marijuana Might Be A Gateway Drug [View all] aikoaiko Nov 2019 OP

... dewsgirl Nov 2019 #1

One could say the same about beer and in fact water. I've had people tell me before how much RKP5637 Nov 2019 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #57

Yeah! Good point!!! n/t RKP5637 Nov 2019 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #264

Too late!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #283

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #284

It always was a gateway drug, just not for the reason most people think LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #3

I've been acquainted with pot for 50 years. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2019 #13

Been smoking the bud Faux pas Nov 2019 #108

I second that thought. Mandeville Nov 2019 #116

... Faux pas Nov 2019 #368

I inhaled SonofDonald Nov 2019 #249

I feel your pain as far as pain goes. Faux pas Nov 2019 #367

I now use "Kratom" for pain SonofDonald Nov 2019 #441

I'm all about the natural Faux pas Nov 2019 #450

Funny thing is where you find it SonofDonald Nov 2019 #453

Right back Faux pas Nov 2019 #537

It's no longer for sale here in Ark - ADH bought into the nonsense about Kratom being a Hestia Nov 2019 #479

Yes, big pharma is behind trying to keep it from us SonofDonald Nov 2019 #484

Spam deleted by MIR Team rayshow Feb 2020 #560

Is alcohol a gateway drug towards alcoholism? at140 Nov 2019 #511

Actually it's alcohol Andy823 Nov 2019 #366

Yup, if alcohol was presented to the FDA now, it wouldn't be legalized obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #401

Oh please. NT enough Nov 2019 #4

Well, Biden's off my list of primary favorites. His comment is nonsensical and ignorant. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2019 #5

It will also turn off the younger voter that WE need so badly to actually Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #7

Any younger Democratic or Dem-leaning voters who stay home if Biden's the nominee deserve Trump. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #19

They need little reason to stay home. They do not understand the way "we" do... Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #65

They need LITTLE reason? Eliot Rosewater Nov 2019 #79

We don't have to like it and we can try our best to change it, but Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #99

Even if you're right and they deserve Trump, WE don't deserve Trump... thesquanderer Nov 2019 #213

And of course this is such a big issue...right up there with destroying our standing in the world Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #23

Come to my state & try saying weed isn't a huge issue. EmInColorado Nov 2019 #215

Bravo! Congrats on kicking the opioids ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #229

Good for you, but drug deaths have been going up in Colorado since weed was legalized maximusveritas Nov 2019 #254

Due to over prescriptions. EmInColorado Nov 2019 #286

Joe is wrong stopdiggin Nov 2019 #308

Go look up what "anecdotal evidence" is and how it is not proof. maximusveritas Nov 2019 #312

Research says marijuana is not a gateway drug JonLP24 Nov 2019 #346

You need to do more than "an easy Google search" if you want actual answers maximusveritas Nov 2019 #449

No one is saying there are no possible side effects JonLP24 Nov 2019 #454

You are 100% wrong -- legal cannabis does not cause drug deaths obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #403

Good for you on kicking a nasty drug habit. Google voter issues. Don't think you'll find Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #339

Yes for legalization outperformed Hillary Clinton in Nevada & Arizona JonLP24 Nov 2019 #347

... betsuni Nov 2019 #349

This message was self-deleted by its author EmInColorado Nov 2019 #377

Weed is a very big issue EmInColorado Nov 2019 #380

Yup, it is both a medical issue and a justice system issue obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #404

Yes it's a much larger issue than what some are aware of EmInColorado Nov 2019 #534

Over 600,000 possession arrests last year. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #218

It is a huge issue, and if you don't think it is, educate yourself obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #402

Biden's been off my list... things he says like this is why he will not get the nomination. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #158

Go Yell At A Cloud, Joe! nt smb Nov 2019 #211

So Biden is off your list based on this one issue? totodeinhere Nov 2019 #253

There's the weed thing... and the less-than-enlightened attitudes towards women... backscatter712 Nov 2019 #405

OK fine, that's more than one issue. n/t totodeinhere Nov 2019 #542

Ugh! I really wish Dems would stop with the Republican-Lite. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #374

Someone please tell me this is the Onion. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #6

No, but maybe Joe was high when he said it?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #169

Somebody needs to sit him in front of a bong and get him high. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #451

Not a bad idea... I'd be happy to break Joe in and educate him!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #457

Might? If he doesn't know, he shouldn't comment. Auggie Nov 2019 #8

Meh Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #24

The gateway drug is beer. That's what many kids start out on. shraby Nov 2019 #9

Has anyone asked Biden if he's tried marijuana? YOHABLO Nov 2019 #10

Two different things: George II Nov 2019 #11

It doesn't sound like Joe remembered what he said earlier. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #14

The framing of the headline (not framed by you, though) is dishonest and misleading. George II Nov 2019 #17

Except that's not true. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #22

He's neither. Thanks for your courteous response and support of our leading candidate. George II Nov 2019 #30

Well, it's one or the other, George. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #34

Even beyond that, the very concept of a 'gateway drug' is made-up bullshit to start with mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #56

Excellent point! LuvNewcastle Nov 2019 #496

A gateway drug to an increased appetite ! left-of-center2012 Nov 2019 #12

Allowing individual states to legalize MJ will not give job protections, will not promote clinical in2herbs Nov 2019 #15

you're right. freeing the states to do their own thing stopdiggin Nov 2019 #309

Alcohol and nicotine are the gateway drugs loyalsister Nov 2019 #16

Joe- Beer, cough syrup, anesthesia and many other things are gate way drugs. LiberalArkie Nov 2019 #18

Outdated ideals. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #20

He's the front runner Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #26

A sad shame that is. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #29

That's your opinion..and that's all it is.. an opinion Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #38

Brilliant Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #45

That Biden is right of center isn't opinion. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #70

1000% SterlingPound Nov 2019 #100

He gets thing done... like it or not. Bills that benefited everyone Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #321

Like the Iraq invasion? nt RandiFan1290 Nov 2019 #350

No they might mean corporate friendly anti-bankruptcy laws The Mouth Nov 2019 #458

Or the war on drugs Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #462

Joe? The Mouth Nov 2019 #474

Agreed Champion Jack Nov 2019 #137

Joe Biden isn't "right center", Hobbitstein.. & all your labeling doesn't make it so.. Cha Nov 2019 #488

yes, he deffo is, but things like this are not general-election helpful as it will depress Celerity Nov 2019 #365

If only I had a nickel for every made up outrage that "disqualifies" Biden! beastie boy Nov 2019 #53

Except that's not what he said. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #69

This is exactly what he said: beastie boy Nov 2019 #73

But it's not a gateway drug. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #75

Take a minute to read the quote. It is clear beastie boy Nov 2019 #82

Because he hasn't bothered to look into it. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #117

That may or may not be the case. You just don't know if he bothered to look into it. beastie boy Nov 2019 #144

No, they were being facetious. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #159

Does this look facetious to you? beastie boy Nov 2019 #179

Biden is on the wrong side of this. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #184

I am replying directly to the contents of your posts. beastie boy Nov 2019 #237

So nobody has ever gone from weed to harder drugs? Doodley Nov 2019 #230

People start with cigarettes. Perhaps we should make them illegal. redqueen Nov 2019 #233

Yes cigarettes should have been illegal decades ago. Doodley Nov 2019 #472

Are you actually trying to sell "gateway drug"? Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #258

Except that's not true, "Gateway Drugs" is a term that exists in medicine. Not a "bullshit term" ehrnst Nov 2019 #376

Yeah, Hobbitstein.. any comment on ehrnst's post? Cha Nov 2019 #490

breast milk is a gateway drug. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #463

You're trying WAY too hard!! Read what he said Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #322

Except that's not true. "Gateway Drug" isn't a "bullshit term." ehrnst Nov 2019 #379

Did you know Elizabeth Warren is for legalization? melman Nov 2019 #384

This has nothing whatsoever to do with my post... ehrnst Nov 2019 #439

Snap! Cha Nov 2019 #491

Yes, the crickets are quite loud, aren't they? ehrnst Nov 2019 #492

Completely!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #170

ain't that the truth. still_one Nov 2019 #386

NO, Biden iDoes NOT the "need to go away", Hobbitstein Cha Nov 2019 #480

Good lord. 1980 called. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #21

Seriously, what is Biden thinkin?! Oh well, another day, another gaffe!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #161

Oh good grief LittleGirl Nov 2019 #25

He's talking about recreational marijuana, not medicinal marijuana which is legal in many states. George II Nov 2019 #32

It doesn't matter LittleGirl Nov 2019 #37

Marijuana, whether recreational or medical, is illegal Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #172

It is literally the same thing, and people should be able to buy cannabis products obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #406

Christ. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2019 #27

Joe Biden is campaigning against dotard, everyone else is campaigning against him!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #28

Dotard's not in the primary. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #31

Seems to working whereas pushing against the front runner isn't Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #39

it sure seemed to work against Hillary for the last 20 years SterlingPound Nov 2019 #102

Nice! So you're advocating pushing negatively against a dem front runner because you don't like him Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #526

I can say from 30 yrs pot smoking experience...... calguy Nov 2019 #33

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #304

He is wrong on that as are many in my generation. When you hear something over and over all of your walkingman Nov 2019 #35

Catchy headline. Has nothing to do with what Biden actually said. beastie boy Nov 2019 #36

Oh..but you're spoiling their Sunday morning bashing!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #40

Not if you support federal restrictions as if there were evidence of significant harm. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #41

Wanting to know more about it is hardly a statement of support. beastie boy Nov 2019 #48

Yes it is because he is maintaining the status quo... aikoaiko Nov 2019 #49

That's a pretty loaded statement! beastie boy Nov 2019 #64

Not all issues are equal. Criminalizing cannabis ruins lives everyday. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #74

Issues are different. Arguments are equal. beastie boy Nov 2019 #78

But you see this isn't really about marijuana legalization at all.. he's the front runner Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #323

This is crystal clear and beyond any doubt beastie boy Nov 2019 #369

And on record they are... Especially today with the official release of his stance Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #527

He's against changing the laws. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #225

He is not against changing laws. He just came against legalizing pot and facing uncertain outcome. beastie boy Nov 2019 #231

His direct quote. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #242

Do you realize you just quoted Biden saying he is not against changing the law? beastie boy Nov 2019 #244

Sure in some nebulous future pending this Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #248

So now wanting to have more information about an issue while allowing states to legalize is Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #324

He is using "we need more data" to hide his opposition to legalization. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #464

See post 527... Joe's official stance and it is nothing you have said it is Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #529

Trump is more of a gateway drug than pot.... AJT Nov 2019 #42

He is evolving. From sure it's a gateway.. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #43

Keeping cannabis illegal ruins peoples lives. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #44

That is the exact problem. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #46

BINGOOOOOOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #290

Not the weed issue with younger voters. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #459

I would like to see Pot decriminalized nationwide. Legalization should be a state by state issue. n Blue_true Nov 2019 #47

Decriminalization Yes.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #54

So you think cops should be meting out punishments because people smoke a plant? backscatter712 Nov 2019 #455

Does he even have an adviser for younger voters? BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #50

Doubt it... maybe he will when he evolves a little more on the issue. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #168

Does your candidate have an advisor on the single most important voting block? Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #325

On This One.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #51

Wow. nt redqueen Nov 2019 #85

Ahh, yes. Reefer madness. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #175

Marijuana craze Celerity Nov 2019 #364

It is most definitely a Craze.... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #371

Except it isn't a "fad" -- wtaf obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #409

Yes and that is our strong opinion... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #427

fad has been going on for decades (actually for millennia, but nevermind that.) Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #465

It isn't a fad, it's about justice Calculating Nov 2019 #477

Justice??? LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #523

lolz you are soooo wrong obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #408

Well, my first drug was nitrous at the dentist ... then nicotine, alcohol, and inhalants like glue mr_lebowski Nov 2019 #52

chocolate milk jmbar2 Nov 2019 #111

The same dealer had strawberry flavoring... tonedevil Nov 2019 #112

Breast milk/formula is the problem... it's madness!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #173

Hate to break it to you Joe melman Nov 2019 #55

LOL... Joe is more of touch than I thought with this latest gaffe. Unbelievable!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #176

Hate to break it to you but he knows that and seems fine with it Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #326

Uh melman Nov 2019 #370

See post 527 Biden's official stance and it's nothing that you or the op claims Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #530

I've seen it melman Nov 2019 #541

He's stuck in a 1950's time warp. Basic LA Nov 2019 #59

It's reefer madness!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #288

Is this part of returning to the good old days? jalan48 Nov 2019 #60

Don't be surprised if younger voters stay home again if Biden is the nominee. Ace Rothstein Nov 2019 #61

I am very afraid of this. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #67

Your fears are justified Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #106

F'ing YIKES redqueen Nov 2019 #107

He is at about 2 percent among younger voters in Iowa Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #110

Gaining a few thousand drumph voters while losing millions MarcA Nov 2019 #140

over this alone? treestar Nov 2019 #243

Oh come on!! Young voters are historically bad at voting Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #327

Completely correct The Mouth Nov 2019 #475

This is definitely one area where Biden and I diverge Jake Stern Nov 2019 #62

No Way colsohlibgal Nov 2019 #63

Mother's milk is a gateway drug. LiberalBrooke Nov 2019 #66

Keeps me off drugs vercetti2021 Nov 2019 #68

It also helps diminish opioid use and dependency. JudyM Nov 2019 #71

I hope the DNC dumps Biden in the next couple of months. nilesobek Nov 2019 #72

Corn pop!! Got anything else?? Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #329

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #76

Surprise this post is still standing... LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #89

why it is the most honest thing said in biden threads, lol SterlingPound Nov 2019 #93

Yeah MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #114

I cannot support that guy. James48 Nov 2019 #77

Biden is right. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #80

Who's saying it's risk free? redqueen Nov 2019 #86

The negative impacts of Marijuana are FAR FAR greater than its proponents argue. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #90

Source? What is the evidence of these effects in Colorado? nt redqueen Nov 2019 #91

I'm seeing it here in CA. I was recently at a parent/staff meeting at our local high school. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #94

Correlation is not causation redqueen Nov 2019 #98

Exactly. Even IF pot is that much of a problem, it's a symptom, not a cause. cwydro Nov 2019 #119

It isn't correlation, it's causation. Direct causation. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #207

no one is saying it should be legal for children questionseverything Nov 2019 #320

Link to where minors are allowed to buy cannabis? obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #412

I live in the real world. Minors are getting pot deliveries here. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #415

Glass half empty Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #330

Well, that is interesting since use is dropping with CA teens Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #391

That is some serious BS. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #393

LOL Please provide a link then with some actual stats. You are something else. Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #395

You do realize that the study you linked to was done BEFORE marijuana was legalized... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #397

We can go round and round but the bottom line is the pros of legalization outweigh the cons Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #436

We need a better path. CA is a disaster. Pot is not "regulated." The Valley Below Nov 2019 #438

So then you want to make alcohol illegal then to correct? because it's 1000 times worse. nt Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #442

Did I say I wanted to make pot illegal? I don't want to see alcohol consumed by students The Valley Below Nov 2019 #445

Funny. We are mostly in agreement then and I should have read the OP in more detail Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #448

LOLOLOLOLOLOL obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #411

Absolute BS. LOL What major problems? Compared to Alcohol Marijuana is extremely tame Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #390

"Adults who smoked marijuana regularly during adolescence have impaired neural connectivity... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #392

LOL. Lack of sleep has the same effects. Why do you keep posting stuff about kids? Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #394

"The negative effect of marijuana use on the functional connectivity of the brain The Valley Below Nov 2019 #396

Even your article suggests it still up for debate Quixote1818 Nov 2019 #398

And how long did we have to deal with questions over whether tobacco was addictive or caused cancer? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #399

Anything to defend Biden... ol'Joe clearly missed the boat in this one!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #435

Say wah? Totally! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #461

lolz -- zero, actual evidence obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #410

"Marijuana use by adolescents is particularly troublesome. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #413

Nobody is proposing legalization for minors. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #468

The NIH is a "scare article?" LOL. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #470

Yes unfortunately it is. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #471

Rightwing source vs the National Institute of Health The Valley Below Nov 2019 #473

Scientific American Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #481

Exactly!! LovingA2andMI Nov 2019 #88

I think he's right to slow down on federal legalization. Aaron Pereira Nov 2019 #201

Are we going to do something about alcohol? JonLP24 Nov 2019 #282

Except this is literally not true, and there is zero proof of this obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #414

Can you point to where I invented facts? Aaron Pereira Nov 2019 #456

It is not a gateway drug that is a myth JonLP24 Nov 2019 #252

What state are you in? Is pot legal there? Are there statistics about increases in these pnwmom Nov 2019 #494

It's true that marijuana is not risk free loyalsister Nov 2019 #545

Not true about Biden. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #546

Anyone who is willing to compromise on legality loyalsister Nov 2019 #547

I don't think either of these things describes Joe Biden. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #549

If he wants to leave it to states loyalsister Nov 2019 #550

And if he were to follow the lead of my home state, California, he'd be... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #553

And in my state, I have seen people drink themselves to death loyalsister Nov 2019 #557

No Biden doesn't take "pride" in criminalizing marijuana. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #558

Oh the outrage! Maybe I won't vote now. redstateblues Nov 2019 #81

The question isn't whether anyone on DU will vote for Joe if he's the noninee redqueen Nov 2019 #87

That viewpoint is about 20 years behind the times. redqueen Nov 2019 #83

Nah. Biden is way ahead of the curve. Those claiming legal pot is all "groovey" are wrong. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #92

"Groovey"? redqueen Nov 2019 #95

I've got news for you melman Nov 2019 #96

Not like now. And not in vape form. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #104

I'm not wrong melman Nov 2019 #138

One could not take a hit off a joint during passing periods and think it wasn't a bust. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #139

Except plenty of us on this thread was doing exactly that. As you tell us we could not do it Jewls2 Nov 2019 #142

If you think kids never got high at school before melman Nov 2019 #143

Not at the rate that's going on today. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #147

If you are of an age to have kids in high school melman Nov 2019 #155

Asked and answered. The rate of the problem is different. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #200

A few fuck ups? JonLP24 Nov 2019 #255

How did the students you knew who smoked pot during school hours end up? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #256

I'm one of them JonLP24 Nov 2019 #259

Sorry to hear of your war injury. And I'm glad if cannabis helps give you relief. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #262

Was in high school same time as you JonAndKatePlusABird Nov 2019 #280

Alcohol always is a bigger problem JonLP24 Nov 2019 #281

I'm in 100% agreement JonAndKatePlusABird Nov 2019 #291

According to the article Biden supports rescheduling sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #444

Actually, it is called dope for a reason. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #298

I'm late to the party as usual... mike_c Nov 2019 #305

Vaping may have increased, overall it hasn't changed much. progressoid Nov 2019 #265

Your own graph shows about a 50% increase in one year (between 2017 and 2018). The Valley Below Nov 2019 #267

VAPING has increased. progressoid Nov 2019 #268

Correct. It is nearly all vaping. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #269

So the problem is discretion? progressoid Nov 2019 #276

The easily concealable act of vaping is certainly part of the problem... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #279

No, we're making light of Biden's antiquated views. progressoid Nov 2019 #285

His ideas are not antiquated in the least. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #287

" Biden Says Marijuana Might Be A Gateway Drug" progressoid Nov 2019 #295

The beginning, as he will be our next president and a person of reason on this issue. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #297

He's a sensible woodchuck. progressoid Nov 2019 #306

lololololol obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #417

If you had anything beyond FUD... tonedevil Nov 2019 #97

+1 obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #418

"Groovey?" cwydro Nov 2019 #101

Laugh all you want, we have a generation in crisis. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #103

I do not know that I buy that, being immersed in the younger generation. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #121

I'm a high school parent in CA. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #123

Ok. And I think there are more factors and some have an agenda with their argument. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #125

The schools are saying it is THE FACTOR. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #128

You pretty much lost me with your argument. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #131

Link? Or else it's just Reefer Madness FUD obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #419

Marijuana isn't cheap tenderfoot Nov 2019 #149

I dunno. And many of the sales here in CA are blackmarket. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #150

Have there been any published articles concerning this? tenderfoot Nov 2019 #151

Not a good idea to ignore the teachers, councilors, and administrators who are sending up red flags The Valley Below Nov 2019 #153

You offer no proof of anything you're going about. tenderfoot Nov 2019 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author The Valley Below Nov 2019 #162

They're not using pot because it's legal. It is NOT legal for those underage. cwydro Nov 2019 #177

Most of the dispensaries here are not legal either. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #180

How are the dispensaries "not legal?" cwydro Nov 2019 #183

Shops open without permits. Some get shut down. Only to open again. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #186

This has nothing to do with the argument you're trying to make. cwydro Nov 2019 #188

Right, I addressed this below. All the things our younger generation is experiencing and seeing for Jewls2 Nov 2019 #199

ALL of the dispensaries are legal obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #420

You are deeply misinformed. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #425

Five finger bags. Bong shops. It may have been illegal but it was a $60 ticket if caught, Jewls2 Nov 2019 #120

Kids could not take bong hits between classes. Vape pens have changed everything. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #124

Like hell they couldn't, lol. A joint works just as well. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #127

Reeking of pot is a total bust. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #130

Omg, lol. You are funny. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #132

It is "funny" that I recognize smoking a doobie is a total bust vs hitting a vape pen? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #135

What's funny is melman Nov 2019 #145

Classic deflection from the usuals suspects. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #148

The usual suspects? melman Nov 2019 #157

Long enough to see where you are coming from. Believe me. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #164

Okay then let me ask you a question melman Nov 2019 #166

Long enough to show us... tonedevil Nov 2019 #226

I hope so! The Valley Below Nov 2019 #227

I think we might significantly differ... tonedevil Nov 2019 #437

LOL. No, good on you. Welcome to the Big Tent. We need everybody we can get. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #440

I've been a registered Democrat... tonedevil Nov 2019 #443

Pot, kettle, black. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #446

I'm sure you would. /nt tonedevil Nov 2019 #447

Damn! NurseJackie Nov 2019 #498

What is the key word there? n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #311

And "bust" and "hitting the vape" obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #422

Wait, you have high school kids Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #192

It isn't friendly to call others liars. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #228

Gee wow one child in the 10th grade ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #236

Nah. I'm listening to the teachers, counselors, and administers... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #238

Nah I pay attention ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #239

We sure are different. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #240

Just remember valley below..at the bottom of this pile is the need to bash Biden Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #332

Vape THC carts smell like weed obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #421

I used to take bong hits between classes. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #187

Yes, toilet paper roll. Coke can. Lol. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #190

and apples obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #423

I believe it. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #516

Yeah, it was very easy to find. cwydro Nov 2019 #174

Generation in crisis. Yeah, the boomers. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #181

You are dead wrong. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #182

No, I'm not. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #185

I "make up" that my kid's school just had a school-wide parent meeting to address the problem? LOL. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #191

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #193

Whatever you say. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #195

No, it isn't "made up" Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #334

OK Nancy Reagan. Nt Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #361

And this is all ya got ... to call people names when scientific links are presented Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #528

Link to this meeting? obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #424

Links please Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #333

Here ya go. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #363

You are lying. backscatter712 Nov 2019 #485

Groovey? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #234

I thought it was funny too. Hence the quotes. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #235

Science doesn't support your opinion Lordquinton Nov 2019 #294

To the contrary. Marijuana consumption massively interrupts the ability for young people to learn. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #296

in any case your whole argument is irrelevant Lordquinton Nov 2019 #300

They "shouldn't" but they do. And legalization has made things much worse in that regard... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #303

Can you post an article or something? Lordquinton Nov 2019 #313

They told us here in CA that pot shops would be "controlled," but that's not the case. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #317

Hey, so do you have a source for all that? Lordquinton Nov 2019 #340

this is literally not true -- link to prove it is? obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #426

I just posted a link. I'll do it again. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #429

So people sell illegally Lordquinton Nov 2019 #493

this IS "Reefer Madness" stopdiggin Nov 2019 #314

You don't think there is big money being made from selling dope to high school kids? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #315

No, there isn't Lordquinton Nov 2019 #316

Nah. The black market has exploded under "legalization." The Valley Below Nov 2019 #318

Why has it exploded? Lordquinton Nov 2019 #319

It seems like illegal pot shops are hard to distinguish from licensed ones. Same with delivery. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #514

I smoked a ton of pot in high school, and I turned out fine. LuckyCharms Nov 2019 #354

Did you really write the lyrics?! obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #428

God, just stop with using your opinions and RW Reefer Madness tropes as "facts" obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #416

groovey??????? Celerity Nov 2019 #501

Another pro tip: When a phrase is in "quotes" it is usually for a reason. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #504

nice try nt Celerity Nov 2019 #505

"Try?" LOL. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #506

ok, nice attempt Celerity Nov 2019 #510

You laughed. Mission accomplished. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #512

fair enough Celerity Nov 2019 #513

LOL, you are living in the 70s! Nt USALiberal Nov 2019 #536

I'm not. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #539

Just Old Joe covering his ass Buzz cook Nov 2019 #84

He said he won't mess with the States Baked Potato Nov 2019 #105

good lord. crap on that comment. riversedge Nov 2019 #109

Pot is a gateway drug if you have to buy it illegally. Period. floppyboo Nov 2019 #113

Biden's point of view aligns with the CDC's. lapucelle Nov 2019 #115

If he followed his statement with, .."and we should decriminalize cannabis until we know", aikoaiko Nov 2019 #118

+1,000 n/t MarcA Nov 2019 #146

You should publish your research and forward the findings to the CDC and Biden campaign. N/T lapucelle Nov 2019 #196

There have been many studies proving Gateway Drug is a myth JonLP24 Nov 2019 #273

You should notifify the CDC of the many studies that "prove that Gateway Drug is a myth". N/T lapucelle Nov 2019 #343

CDC certainly doesn't say that it does JonLP24 Nov 2019 #345

The CDC says "more research is needed to understand if marijuana lapucelle Nov 2019 #467

Is anyone arguing against more actual research? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #482

... lapucelle Nov 2019 #522

Legalized in so many states, it should not affect someones ability to get some minimum wage job. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #122

Maybe a minimum wage if the best life prospect a kid will ever have... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #126

When you make comments like this, I know you are not sitting from a position of facts. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #129

Not a bit. Students are failing out of school and/or doing badly in classes due to pot usage. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #133

Statewide... tonedevil Nov 2019 #141

We all see the world through our own experiences. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #152

You can't actually quantify the problem... tonedevil Nov 2019 #167

No. I have people in the schools who are saying they have never experienced problems on this scale.. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #171

So if marijuana use... tonedevil Nov 2019 #189

I don't have all the answers here. I guess the most important thing is to be real... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #194

Calling it a gateway drug is not being real JonLP24 Nov 2019 #257

Telling them that smoking marijuana is benign... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #260

Once and for All, Marijuana Is Not a Gateway Drug JonLP24 Nov 2019 #263

There is a hopelessness with our kids that has nothing to do with pot. I do not know one under 25 Jewls2 Nov 2019 #197

I'm sorry you are having problems believing progressives who are sending up red flags. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #203

Not addressing underling factors, many I laid out is beyond harmful and will not result in solutions Jewls2 Nov 2019 #205

I disagree and think you are making excuses. Sorry. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #206

Excuses? You are all up in arms for our youth and have boiled it down to the easy remedy of pot. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #210

LOL. False characterizations don't help your point. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #212

Very dismissive of youth experience. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #214

Not a bit. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #216

Well then surely you can document Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #351

Yeah let's help them out by giving them a criminal record. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #219

False choices. Amazing how some people only think in extremes. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #220

Uh over 600,000 possession arrests Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #221

So? You think there are only two choices here? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #222

With respect to possession arrests yes. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #224

Proof? Link? Facts? Yeah, there are none obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #430

"Despite some contentious discussions regarding the addictiveness of marijuana,... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #434

Oh, jeeze !!!!!!!! pangaia Nov 2019 #134

Another reason to lose. flying_wahini Nov 2019 #136

This is horse poop. mike_c Nov 2019 #154

+1,000 redqueen Nov 2019 #156

+2000. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #163

This. nt Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #198

It's not just ill-informed. It'll potentially limit important opportunities for treament. JudyM Nov 2019 #271

Wait! Mike C? Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #292

Howdy. Good to see you too. mike_c Nov 2019 #301

The issue remains choice tirebiter Nov 2019 #165

It's not though. The fact that's still considered a schedule 1 drug makes this meaningless. redqueen Nov 2019 #247

From a 72 year old DUer randr Nov 2019 #178

I think it matters also. Look, we have Trump going into hospital probably because of heart. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #202

a younger person could have similar opinions treestar Nov 2019 #245

Legalization turns out non-voters JonLP24 Nov 2019 #274

How about the addictive opioid drugs? Doreen Nov 2019 #204

Opioids are their own gateway drug, cause addiction and death. Cannabis gets people off opioids. JudyM Nov 2019 #270

More proof of Biden being out of touch budkin Nov 2019 #208

Agree! duforsure Nov 2019 #356

Oh gosh... Newest Reality Nov 2019 #209

Mr. Biden, I remember when. saidsimplesimon Nov 2019 #217

More let's bash Biden... I don't need to stick to the subject... just get Biden Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #335

Let's talk about gateway drugs jmowreader Nov 2019 #223

I smoked pot before cigarettes. Dr Hobbitstein Nov 2019 #261

And with that jayschool2013 Nov 2019 #232

hahaha obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #431

lol... Well, we all have flaws. Sapient Donkey Nov 2019 #241

A sensible post. Thank you. MustLoveBeagles Nov 2019 #272

I like joe biden okieinpain Nov 2019 #246

A lot of us would warren to go home!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #336

Everyone look at the science JonLP24 Nov 2019 #250

Dated thinking. Maven Nov 2019 #251

I know someone who injected two marijuanas and now she's homeless and she lost a foot. progressoid Nov 2019 #266

Thanks, I needed that. SamKnause Nov 2019 #275

LOL! Maven Nov 2019 #293

Lol! Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #299

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #302

Becky died from snorting marijuana... tonedevil Nov 2019 #337

RIP Becky. progressoid Nov 2019 #357

I found her foot. Where should I send it? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #352

I think there's a depository for that. progressoid Nov 2019 #358

Even if it contaminated with tolio? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #372

Ironically, you can get relief from tolio from the marijuanas. progressoid Nov 2019 #385

I tried to mainline it into my ear. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #483

Ill invite him to our little ol ladies pot n cookies tea.... samnsara Nov 2019 #277

That is just embarrassing. dflprincess Nov 2019 #278

Where are Joe's advisors on this when he needs them?! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #289

Hopefully, he won't act on that. Laffy Kat Nov 2019 #307

Marijuana is really bad for some youths. It should be very hard for teens applegrove Nov 2019 #310

Thank you for your post ... coming from someone who has a better perspective on the issue Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #338

It was really easy for me to get as a youth -- easier than alcohol JonLP24 Nov 2019 #348

States with legalized cannabis show minors using cannabis has dropped obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #432

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #328

Havin' a bad day? Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #341

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #342

Out today Biden's official stance on weed...but, I suppose you'll find something wrong with that too Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #531

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #535

Well, THAT was a fun read! A HERETIC I AM Nov 2019 #331

I feel like I fell back in time. Autumn Nov 2019 #389

love the sample of this song on that jam Celerity Nov 2019 #548

Pot kept me sane when I got back from Vietnam. 4bucksagallon Nov 2019 #344

OK Boomer. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #353

... progressoid Nov 2019 #359

Biden was born in 1942, pre-Boomer years DesertRat Nov 2019 #487

close enough, but you have a point. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #489

Well he sure talks like the stereotypical Boomer redqueen Nov 2019 #497

I'm a Boomer and most of my peers use weed DesertRat Nov 2019 #507

Also laughing a lot redqueen Nov 2019 #509

Oh boy MFM008 Nov 2019 #355

He says he's not sure? duforsure Nov 2019 #360

Ugh RhodeIslandOne Nov 2019 #362

C'mon man! If you're an addict, even NyQuil is a gateway drug DesertRat Nov 2019 #373

"If Biden's appeal is supposed to be that he's a centrist, he should adopt centrist positions..." redqueen Nov 2019 #375

Why adopt new positions when you can double-down on shitty old positions? Act_of_Reparation Nov 2019 #378

Personally get the red out Nov 2019 #381

Pass it this way Joe to us Bernie supportes please! EmInColorado Nov 2019 #382

I don't give a f**k what people take, but the fact is cannabis can alter the metalbism of other still_one Nov 2019 #383

Which is a good reason to decriminalize it so that people talk to their doctors.. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #387

+1 obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #433

So out of touch with reality BlueJac Nov 2019 #388

Ok, Boomer obamanut2012 Nov 2019 #400

Took the words right out of my mouth! backscatter712 Nov 2019 #407

Biden was born in 1942, pre-Boomer years DesertRat Nov 2019 #486

THAT'S IT! HE'S OUT!! UNDER THE BUS JOE! Still In Wisconsin Nov 2019 #452

How is this different than a Dem candidate saying they are anti-choice? LonePirate Nov 2019 #460

Are you f-ing kidding me....??? revmclaren Nov 2019 #466

I'm saying it is unfathomable for Dems to nominate an anti-choice candidate. How is this different? LonePirate Nov 2019 #469

Agree with you The Mouth Nov 2019 #500

Heads up. Someone will likely alert that. You can't criticize him without suffering consequences. LonePirate Nov 2019 #502

Thanks, but I don't care The Mouth Nov 2019 #520

And you had the temerity to ask me if I'm on the right forum? The Valley Below Nov 2019 #543

I like Biden but this is a big, big vote loser. tman Nov 2019 #476

This message was self-deleted by its author tman Nov 2019 #478

I hope Biden takes a serious look at the financial benefits of this benign industry. peacebuzzard Nov 2019 #495

I will be surprised if this doesn't come up at the debate, and if/when it does, not much good for Celerity Nov 2019 #499

Sigh is right!! Give it a rest!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #533

it was not my OP and you misunderstood my sigh I do believe nt Celerity Nov 2019 #540

disgusting The Mouth Nov 2019 #544

..... tishaLA Nov 2019 #503

Yes! DesertRat Nov 2019 #508

Someone remind Joe that this isn't 1988, he isn't running against Dukakis and Gephardt Tarc Nov 2019 #515

This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2019 #517

Here is where Joe Biden stands on marijuana laws Gothmog Nov 2019 #518

Sorry, Joe. Not good enough. Say "legalize cannabis" aikoaiko Nov 2019 #521

This is good enough for me Gothmog Nov 2019 #524

What would you like him to say?? For heavens sake...enough is never gonna be enough Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #532

Nate Silver-Biden's position on marijuana is farther to left than headlines suggest Gothmog Nov 2019 #519

Well... he's not wrong in my family. Two went from weed to worse things as teens. NCLefty Nov 2019 #525

Biden is too out of touch LeftTurn3623 Nov 2019 #538

Joe is correct! Cartaphelius Nov 2019 #551

LOL... so true!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #552

you made me lulz aikoaiko Nov 2019 #554

I would have hoped for Cartaphelius Nov 2019 #556

This thread needs a musical ending. betsuni Nov 2019 #555

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