Democratic Primaries

Thekaspervote

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94. FYI Nate Silver's numbers for 2016 were very close.. you can look it up if you want

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Mon Nov 18, 2019, 01:02 PM

Nov 2019

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Joe Biden's Frantic Defense of the Status Quo [View all] BeckyDem Nov 2019 OP

If I, a regular citizen, said this, I would be laughed at and mocked for being naive and/or stupid. LonePirate Nov 2019 #1

So Biden Is The Same As Trump (Status Quo)? TomCADem Nov 2019 #2

Not stated nor implied but that is your take nevertheless. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #3

Trump is the status quote right now sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #5

Nonsense. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #8

Headline is misleading WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #6

Apparently that's nonsense. sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #21

The status quo is not IQ45; Agent Orange is a horrid, dangerous anomaly. Magoo48 Nov 2019 #72

You should look up the definition of status quo Hav Nov 2019 #102

This sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #129

Nice avoidance, thanks for the technical definition. Magoo48 Nov 2019 #170

This message was self-deleted by its author Magoo48 Nov 2019 #75

Yep! treestar Nov 2019 #141

Do you know what "status quo" means? TomCADem Nov 2019 #145

I'm not the one who is confused by the OP's intent nor meaning of the term. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #147

+1 Kurt V. Nov 2019 #151

........... BeckyDem Nov 2019 #163

If status quo boomer_wv Nov 2019 #4

I believe you missed the point of the OP. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #7

Biden bashing is not hard to miss...and of course it appears as if your candidate Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #37

Agree!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #41

I wonder how many attacks Biden has endured from Trump, here and elsewhere? Yet Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #105

THIS emmaverybo Nov 2019 #110

Biden showing everyday, that he can withstand Trump's attacks. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #111

And Bernie surrogates' before he even entered and Harris's debate hit which MSM crowed emmaverybo Nov 2019 #118

I am also very proud and think some who search for attack articles and post vicious commentary Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #124

meaning the biden years SterlingPound Nov 2019 #14

Why not post something positive about your candidate of choice. Negative posting does nothing Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #44

because this is a thread about biden being for our failing status quo SterlingPound Nov 2019 #60

You mean like during the Obama years? Sorry most of us would kill to return to that time of sanity. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #106

I would as well compaired to the trump years SterlingPound Nov 2019 #161

This message was self-deleted by its author SterlingPound Nov 2019 #162

Yes SouthernIrish Nov 2019 #157

Defend the premise that Obama's cabinet was a "citigroup administration stuffed treestar Nov 2019 #143

I second that, but state it a bit differently. Poeraria Nov 2019 #34

+1 treestar Nov 2019 #140

+1000% SterlingPound Nov 2019 #9

Seems like trump WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #15

and then continue to do the bidding of wall street and the insurance companies SterlingPound Nov 2019 #18

This is your opinion...and that's all it is...an opinion Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #46

when there is a voting record it is more than just opinion SterlingPound Nov 2019 #49

And indeed he has a great voting record on civil rights women's right gun safety Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #59

Now that is an opinion SterlingPound Nov 2019 #66

Go Joe Go WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #68

no one is saying close the banks and CC's tomorrow but you keep rocking on SterlingPound Nov 2019 #70

Why not list bills Warren successfully passed during her time in the Senate...and perhaps you could Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #125

Biden didn't even invest with Wall Street when he as in the Senate, so as not to have Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #113

Consulting and book royalties. MrsCoffee Nov 2019 #180

And you don't think your endless tongue in cheek negatives aren't bashing?? Really?? Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #79

Logical fallacies are better than crystal balls. LanternWaste Nov 2019 #87

Crystal ball? That's your term!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #98

The last couple days there were threads going after Warren, now today there are threads going after still_one Nov 2019 #10

Its called a primary. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #11

It's the disingenuousness sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #24

Republicans are not going to work with Biden. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #27

Giving lip service to attempting does no harm sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #38

You believe OP is equating Biden with Trump. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #52

Yes, and I also believe that you can't attack Biden for his time as VP without attacking Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #119

My comment stands on its own, I don't need to justify it still_one Nov 2019 #62

Which has no meaning in the context of the OP. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #64

There's a "new one" apparently BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #23

The New Republic USED to be worth it, and I subscribed; elleng Nov 2019 #12

Are you serious? BeckyDem Nov 2019 #13

You know I almost put on the hipwaders to get through that pile of crap Peacetrain Nov 2019 #17

Because you believe you are objective on Biden. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #20

Probably no more or less so than you are with Warren BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #26

lol BeckyDem Nov 2019 #30

I know right? BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #31

You are funny, yes. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #39

I know. But thanks, anyway. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #40

Thanks for stopping by with all the "reasoning". BeckyDem Nov 2019 #47

Awww you're so welcome BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #69

No no.. All in for Biden.. but crap is crap and not a walk through the tulip beds Peacetrain Nov 2019 #29

Figure out a way to work with them? BeckyDem Nov 2019 #33

Keep pounding ... I'm sure you are changing a lot of voters minds!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #50

More people are now for Warren than Biden here at DU. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #56

The polls here on DU are far far from or reflect the nation and how they will vote Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #61

Alrighty then. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #67

No no no.. its "Alrighty Now".. don't make me lose faith in you Peacetrain Nov 2019 #71

Yes, I heard you the first time. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #76

Thank you! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #80

You betcha!! Peacetrain Nov 2019 #146

The poll at DU does not reflect a number of polls in a number of states where Biden leads. That emmaverybo Nov 2019 #112

Funny how it is consistently been Biden supporters who say that. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #115

You can predict whatever you want. People may well change their minds. Right now Biden leads emmaverybo Nov 2019 #120

The polls. ok BeckyDem Nov 2019 #122

The point is that people are not changing their minds about Biden...maybe Warren. Is she slipping? Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #121

I think she has surprised a lot of people and will likely BeckyDem Nov 2019 #123

Warren needs to win Iowa and New Hampshire or come damn close...neither Sanders nor Biden have to Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #132

In the new HarrisX poll, yes. She has gone down to third place. Biden gained 4 points. Sanders emmaverybo Nov 2019 #126

I did NOT say that, but I don't have to subscribe when I think it lost its way, elleng Nov 2019 #32

Amazing. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #36

Their base is nuts and the RWNJ machine keeps them frothing BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #16

Thank you. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #19

Sadly, this is the situation TheRealNorth Nov 2019 #28

the centre right needs to reclaim the Republican party, it will take decades but it must be done Celerity Nov 2019 #35

Thank you for posting it. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #45

+1 Kurt V. Nov 2019 #153

+1000 brutus smith Nov 2019 #22

In a divided Congress, Biden makes perfect sense. And this is not status quo. beastie boy Nov 2019 #25

Makes sense to his supporters. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #42

Yes and since he's the front runner with great poll numbers it makes sense to a lot of voters!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #54

Maybe, we'll see. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #58

Here's some eye popping numbers you should consider NYTsienna poll Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #73

We'll find out if he lasts before too long. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #77

Here's some more of what the experts have to say about your comment: Nate Silver 538 Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #82

Experts, ok. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #83

Oh so, you would rather give your opinion and say that polling experts know nothing? really?? Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #86

2016 BeckyDem Nov 2019 #91

FYI Nate Silver's numbers for 2016 were very close.. you can look it up if you want Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #94

You go with your experts. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #95

Better than the arm chair crap from the new Republic! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #97

I don't expect you to agree with it. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #101

You bet! beastie boy Nov 2019 #57

Indeed! I want a president that is willing to wade into whatever pile of crap to secure Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #92

Is "status quo" the new oligarchy or dynasties bs of 2016? Hav Nov 2019 #43

Oh the voice of sanity...thank you!! Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #55

He is lambasted for wanting a "change from today's climate," as calling for embracing conservative emmaverybo Nov 2019 #160

Sometimes people try too hard..... TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #48

After Trump, I'll take "normalcy" PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #51

I'll ask for about the 50th time on this site: George II Nov 2019 #53

I have no idea what you have been told. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #63

Since you seem to agree with the op about status quo, why don't you start.. let's hear it Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #84

The Republicans are never going to work on policy that works against their money handlers, Koch. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #90

And you think Biden is naive about that? You think that hammering a progressive agenda with a Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #96

No, I believe it is wrong to campaign suggesting as he has that they will work with him BeckyDem Nov 2019 #99

When I ask the question I never get an answer. That's my point. George II Nov 2019 #117

Yes you have. You may not like them and the responses follow from this post. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #136

I've gotten responses but no answers. George II Nov 2019 #138

Keep playing and have a nice day. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #139

I have a perfect definition for you, George: beastie boy Nov 2019 #65

LOL!!! Excellent still_one Nov 2019 #78

along with "corporatist" "oligarch" treestar Nov 2019 #142

You should ask the OP BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #74

Yes... just the others.. Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #88

I may be mistaken, but I don't believe I have seen one Democratic candidate indicate that they won't still_one Nov 2019 #81

This message was self-deleted by its author LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #85

Good question. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #93

The answer is that the alternative meaning of status quo is money in politics, corruption. betsuni Nov 2019 #158

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Nov 2019 #89

The "Lowered Expectations" campaign. N/t TCJ70 Nov 2019 #100

What's the solution? Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #103

Valid question. I believe it begins with not suggesting Trump's departure will equate BeckyDem Nov 2019 #104

do you think biden doesn't want to do that? Otto Lidenbrock Nov 2019 #109

I can't speak for why Biden has taken the issue of Republicans BeckyDem Nov 2019 #114

how do we know biden will fight hard for the public option? he didnt last time questionseverything Nov 2019 #156

What do you mean Biden didn't fight hard for the public option? betsuni Nov 2019 #159

do we have a public option i dont know about? questionseverything Nov 2019 #168

ACA with a public option passed Congress. There weren't enough votes for it in the Senate. betsuni Nov 2019 #169

since the aca passed using reconciliation (51 votes) questionseverything Nov 2019 #173

Al Franken: betsuni Nov 2019 #175

Frantic?? Who writes this crap? onetexan Nov 2019 #107

Is "frantic" even in Biden's repertoire? He is steady as you go. Steadily he maintains the lead. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #130

Bingo! No one among the candidates is more steady than Joe. onetexan Nov 2019 #150

Usually someone with an interest in dividing the party or getting clicks. Aaron Pereira Nov 2019 #137

U hit the nail on the head! onetexan Nov 2019 #149

That about sums it up in my view. KPN Nov 2019 #108

Neither Warren nor Sanders are younger...they are both above 70. In fact Sanders is older than Biden Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #128

No, but they are supported by younger. Harris KPN Nov 2019 #152

I love ya Mr. Biden BigMin28 Nov 2019 #116

It is an election and voters want us to work with the other side...doesn't hurt to try. What is the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #127

I do not claim to have all the answers BigMin28 Nov 2019 #134

Even if we get the Senate, we still have to work with some Republicans...and we have will have Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #135

Yep and having a President that is treestar Nov 2019 #144

We lost a SC seat that was ours. That matters to some of us. Not easily forgotten or dismissed. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #131

Racism, huh tirebiter Nov 2019 #133

I'm trying to think of anyone who is less "frantic" that "Rabid Joe" Biden. LOL. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #148

I have never seen Democrats.... quickesst Nov 2019 #154

Serving an ideology is simply more important than defeating Trump. But I find more disappointing emmaverybo Nov 2019 #164

agree with everything you've written quickesst Nov 2019 #165

Aw shucks. Biden's clarification states that he is for expunging possession offenses records and emmaverybo Nov 2019 #166

Hmmm... quickesst Nov 2019 #167

but that won't change the law on public housing,student loans,dcfs and kids questionseverything Nov 2019 #174

No. But those issues can be addressed. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #178

Help help I'm being repressed. nycbos Nov 2019 #155

Oh, you... NurseJackie Nov 2019 #171

Rethug leadership starting with Gingrich has been a stream of vehement Never-Collaborators. JudyM Nov 2019 #172

Thank you, JudyM. The intentions of the GOP could not be more clear since Trump. BeckyDem Nov 2019 #179

O, jesus- Nice headline, nice source link, nice try. No points, but, keep trying, Sunshine! NBachers Nov 2019 #176

I don't give a damn about any of this. We need to select who can win. Period. EveHammond13 Nov 2019 #177