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EndGOPPropaganda

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8. Thank you! This is all well explained by Beutler in the article.
Fri Feb 22, 2019, 08:18 PM
Feb 2019
What these senators mean is that for all the broad left’s justified alarm about the brittleness of our democracy, and the hardening of minority rule in America, 41 out of 100 senators, representing much less than 41 percent of the U.S. population, should be allowed to doom their ambitions. Even a Senate that could reliably pass legislation with 51 votes would still not be a majoritarian institution. The senators from the 25 smallest states would still have as much power as the senators from the 25 largest states, and because of how our population is sorted, the Senate would still allow a minority of the country, through their elected representatives, to hobble the progressive agenda.

Still, abolishing the filibuster would at least give the next Democratic president a fighting chance to govern. It would also strike a blow for core democratic principles liberals claim to stand for, bringing the country closer to a one-person, one vote ideal. Democrats who support its abolition could appeal to voters not just on the basis of policy checklists and anti-Trump sentiment, but as tribunes for a more responsive democracy. The problem is that many Democratic senators seem to believe that this would be bad. And unless that changes, the primary will be less a contest to determine which ideas a unified Democratic government might enact than a grand but meaningless celebration of liberal empowerment. A laboratory simulation to determine where consensus among Democratic base voters lies, before that consensus gets dashed upon the shoals of Republican obstruction.

As these candidates have staked out their positions, Mitch McConnell has constructed a fine-tuned machine for confirming right-wing judges who, left to their own devices, will be shaping life in America for decades to come. President Trump is assembling a committee of climate-change deniers to dispute the consensus that global warming threatens national and global security. The last five years have been the hottest five years in recorded history. And nothing of substance can pass the Senate with less than 60 votes.

There is a famous New Yorker cartoon that depicts three children and a grown man huddled in a post-apocalyptic outpost around a campfire wearing tattered clothing, and the caption reads, “Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders.” It’s a perfect satire of the brutal myopia of corporate capitalism, but it could be easily refashioned into commentary about the absurdity of Democratic politics. “Yes, the planet got destroyed. But would it really have been worth saving if it meant a majority of legislators could make laws in America?”

The most frustrating thing about this whistling past the graveyard isn’t that it places all of civilization at risk. It is possible (though terrifying) to imagine us muddling through the climate crisis with a combination of clever legislating, regulation, innovation, and waste, while leaving the filibuster intact. What makes that thought truly bewildering is the hollowness it reveals. The poverty of ambition, the limp resistance, the fear of democratic accountability, the willingness to let year after year of right-wing abuse go unanswered. Whether driven by cynicism or delusion, the idea is that Democrats should claw their way back to power by inflaming the righteous and passionate Trump opposition with false promises, and then hope their disappointed voters will blame Republicans for the ensuing squander.
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loss of the judicial filibuster is why R's are stacking all the courts right now and for decades... hlthe2b Feb 2019 #1
If we had been willing to nuke shanny Feb 2019 #4
Exactly how, with R's holding Senate & refusing Garland a hearing or vote, might we have prevailed? hlthe2b Feb 2019 #6
Why were Rs able to take the Senate? shanny Feb 2019 #12
Gerrymandering for the House, Voter Suppression for Senate. Perhaps you might want to google that... hlthe2b Feb 2019 #18
Very helpful in Senate races and governorships. shanny Feb 2019 #20
oh honey shanny Feb 2019 #24
Oh, honey, you STILL haven't answered why exactly Merrick Garland would have been confirmed hlthe2b Feb 2019 #25
See! You can do offense! I'm proud of you. shanny Feb 2019 #26
meh... you are not worth my Friday evening... Knock yourself out. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #27
Yes- bold! Exactly. nm EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #23
Thank you! This is all well explained by Beutler in the article. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #8
Thank you too. shanny Feb 2019 #19
Sorry but this is naive: GOP was just waiting to nuke it EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #13
That is NOT what I asked. I asked you to address YOUR claim that we could have gotten Garland hlthe2b Feb 2019 #16
That wasn't me, and I asked you to address Gorsuch and Kavanaugh EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #21
Sorry but are you aware you are talking to-- shanny Feb 2019 #28
Your twin. hlthe2b Feb 2019 #30
Still waiting... Guess you don't actually have an answer to that, do you? hlthe2b Feb 2019 #22
I'm not convinced. That cuts both ways. mobeau69 Feb 2019 #2
Read this. The filibuster helps only Republicans at this time. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #10
I do not want the filibuster ended. Big Blue Marble Feb 2019 #3
Noooooooo!! Read the article! EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #9
When one party holds the House and Senate it is wasupaloopa Feb 2019 #5
I'm with her. shanny Feb 2019 #7
Keep the filibuster. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #11
If you want Republicans to have control of America indefinitely, sure EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #15
Nah, I want to be able to stop them. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #29
Really, read the article. Keeping the filibuster means submitting to minority GOP rule EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #34
I have a degree in political science. I think I know what a filibuster means. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #35
Must end the filibuster if we want to avoid GOP control for decades. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #37
You certainly seem sure of yourself, but I'm not buying what you are selling. CrossingTheRubicon Feb 2019 #40
Republicans want the filibuster: they know. Please read these articles. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #43
Nope. The filibuster is why we still have the ACA Recursion Feb 2019 #14
Nope. The filibuster is why the ACA has been unpopular and therefore vulnerable. shanny Feb 2019 #31
I agree with this. Volaris Feb 2019 #17
Well said. shanny Feb 2019 #32
If we don't remove the filibuster, 90%-95% of the Democratic agenda is DOA. LonePirate Feb 2019 #33
Right. And the GOP judges are going nowhere then. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #36
If this happens, we better have the House, Senate, and the Presidency. WordsMatter Feb 2019 #38
Well yes- that's the only way to fix the country. EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #39
Ya I know... WordsMatter Feb 2019 #41
not a fan of that idea by any means Tiggeroshii Feb 2019 #42
I agree completely. And nice article! Very well-reasoned. DSV Feb 2019 #44
Cannot rec this enough kcr Feb 2019 #45
End the Senate, where before long 2/3 of the population will be represented by 1/3 of the Senate. Garrett78 Feb 2019 #46
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