Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: 'We Should Pick the Low-Hanging Fruit First.' Bill Clinton Wades Into the Health Care Debate [View all]KPN
(17,513 posts)"particularly intransigent at this time." They've been deliberately as well as purposefully intransigent for over a decade; they've also been working a long standing plan to entrench themselves as the sole executors, legislators and judiciary of the entire nation by defeating Dems for even longer. Never giving an inch is a part and parcel of that strategy -- we see it on virtually every front by the GOP. They give an inch only when there is no longer any possible alternative.
Us? Well, we've got people saying things like "we have to get the votes first" and us "being intransigent too means nothing will change". Translation: let's cut out the talk about MFA and single payer! Geesh -- talk about intransigent.
Look, all I'm saying is there are a majority of Democrats including democrat leaning millennials who welcome and applaud the open discussion about the virtues and means for MFA or single payer. That's what they want to hear coming from the party they belong to or lean toward. Telling them it's unrealistic and equates to "intransigence" and defeat is itself a defeatist posture, especially given the broad -- if not pervasive -- and now decades long concern about the role and influence of money/capital/corporations in politics and and therefore governance overall. Translation: stick with the broken system that we've been telling you to stick with now for a decade or so because it's reality.
Some of us are frustrated ... and some of us have been for 40+ years. We get that we have to win the election. If enough Dems are confident in a candidate who supports MFA or another form of single payer, then I'm confident we can win in 2020. If not, we'll have a candidate who talks about a go slow, be realistic and reasonable approach. That's fine ... but listening to past leaders tell the media that Dems should stop talking about single payer in the primary is a monumental turn off in my view. Telling us we can't after a history of relative failure or decline on the campaign finance, labor and economic welfare policy fronts is getting old.
Sorry. That's how I feel about this.
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided