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In reply to the discussion: 'We Should Pick the Low-Hanging Fruit First.' Bill Clinton Wades Into the Health Care Debate [View all]Gothmog
(183,514 posts)105. Warren's latest health plan is causing concerns for some centrist, moderate and rural Democrats
I and other true Democrats have been working hard to turn Texas blue. We hope to pick up six congressional seats in addition to the two seats we flipped in 2018. We have a chance to defeat Cornyn in the Senate. The Democrats picked up 12 seats in the Texas House and need 9 more to take control of the Texas House prior to the next redistricting session. If Biden is the nominee, Texas will be a battleground state. If Warren or sanders is the nominee. Texas will not be a battle ground state and we can forget about keeping the two seats that we flipped in 2018
Speaker Pelosi is worried about losing control of the House with a weak top of the ballot ticket with a program that will kill down ballot candidates
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The most-vulnerable Democrat in Colorados state House, Bri Buentello, is dreading door-knocking in her rural district now that Elizabeth Warren dropped her massive Medicare for All plan into the presidential arena.
This is going to cause down-ballot damage in swing districts and states if shes the nominee, Buentello says, describing how her Pueblo-area constituents who voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 were already echoing criticisms about a giant, one-size-fits-all big government run plan that cancels private health insurance and raises taxes.
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The fear of blowback is indicative of the broad and largely negative response to Warrens proposal from centrist, moderate and rural Democrats many of whom, like Buentello, back Joe Biden in the primary. And it exposes the fault line between those who fret about winning voters in the center and the activist progressive base propelling Warren to the front of the Democratic pack.
The long-awaited plan to raise the $20.5 trillion she says is needed to pay for single-payer health care in America is Warrens attempt to answer critics after weeks of questions from rival candidates about the cost of her proposal and the prospect of higher taxes. Warren promised, as she has in the past, that "not one penny in middle-class tax increases is necessary to finance the effort.
This is going to cause down-ballot damage in swing districts and states if shes the nominee, Buentello says, describing how her Pueblo-area constituents who voted overwhelmingly for Donald Trump in 2016 were already echoing criticisms about a giant, one-size-fits-all big government run plan that cancels private health insurance and raises taxes.
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The fear of blowback is indicative of the broad and largely negative response to Warrens proposal from centrist, moderate and rural Democrats many of whom, like Buentello, back Joe Biden in the primary. And it exposes the fault line between those who fret about winning voters in the center and the activist progressive base propelling Warren to the front of the Democratic pack.
The long-awaited plan to raise the $20.5 trillion she says is needed to pay for single-payer health care in America is Warrens attempt to answer critics after weeks of questions from rival candidates about the cost of her proposal and the prospect of higher taxes. Warren promised, as she has in the past, that "not one penny in middle-class tax increases is necessary to finance the effort.
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden
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'We Should Pick the Low-Hanging Fruit First.' Bill Clinton Wades Into the Health Care Debate [View all]
Otto Lidenbrock
Nov 2019
OP
Actually, the vast majority of those countries with Universal Health Care do not have single payer,
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#2
Good post. Canada actually allowed some provinces to opt out of national healthcare.
Blue_true
Nov 2019
#42
With or without the consistent level of GOP obstructionism as experienced in the US?
LanternWaste
Nov 2019
#3
He's speaking about the route to get there, not the final destination. And....
George II
Nov 2019
#5
It's irrelevant if it can't pass. The ACA took a massive effort to get through.
themaguffin
Nov 2019
#20
It's irrelevant if it can't pass. The ACA took a massive effort to get through.
themaguffin
Nov 2019
#21
Warren's latest health plan is causing concerns for some centrist, moderate and rural Democrats
Gothmog
Nov 2019
#105
I'm hoping that she'll listen to the experts and modify her plan with their data. (nt)
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#108
Running on M4A and losing would only help the fascists. Winning isn't everything it is the only
Demsrule86
Nov 2019
#9
So supporting anything other than M4A in two years time equals "appeasing fascists?"
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#14
Obamacare is really just a Heritage Foundation plan warmed over & rebranded.
BuffaloJackalope
Nov 2019
#25
So you're going to avoid answering the question, and persist in the false dillema fallacy.
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#26
Yep. That's a straw man someone else set up and attacked that I had no reason to "defend."
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#69
I pointed out that you attacked a straw man. I just didn't bother to defend it for you.
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#68
If "Obamacare" is really just a Heritage Foundation plan, why would "the fascists"
betsuni
Nov 2019
#65
No, Russian interference & the Left believing RW bullshit about HRC got us Trump.
BuffaloJackalope
Nov 2019
#59
Oh, right. 50 different systems w/corps sponsoring a race to the bottom.
BuffaloJackalope
Nov 2019
#64
And it opens the door to the real destruction of healthcare in this country.
BuffaloJackalope
Nov 2019
#97
Sorry, but maybe when people suffer because of the facists that get elected, they will prevent
Blue_true
Nov 2019
#102
Ins. across state lines would make things worse, because state regulations keep abuse in check.
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#74
I disagree. State regulators are adding to the problem now, particularly in red states and
Blue_true
Nov 2019
#95
The PARADIGM! Now there's a specific, clear description of what's you think is wrong...
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#71
Do you deny that Bill Clinton has deliberately kept out of the limelight ?
Fiendish Thingy
Nov 2019
#17
Yeah, if there's anything that Bill Clinton is known for is being wimpy on health care initiatives.
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#19
Yes, bashing Obama seems to be a sport designed to show just how "progressive" one is.
ehrnst
Nov 2019
#72
I guess it didn't take "bold new leadership" to both balance the budget and eliminate the deficit?
George II
Nov 2019
#33
I think your post is insulting, uncalled for in terms of the debate, and clearly breaks ,
emmaverybo
Nov 2019
#34
Who said anything about doing nothing? Talk about we should set our sights on low hanging fruit
KPN
Nov 2019
#79
It's not a concession; it's a good strategy to accomplish meaningful change right away as we work
LongtimeAZDem
Nov 2019
#81
No, not "accept it"; accomplish what you can while working for better. It's the mature approach.
LongtimeAZDem
Nov 2019
#83
That's not what low-hanging fruit means. I have an apple tree & and a bum knee. The high fruit ....
Hekate
Nov 2019
#90
We don't need to be inspired; we need to actually accomplish things that matter.
LongtimeAZDem
Nov 2019
#77