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Gothmog

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111. Nate Silver has some great observations

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Wed Nov 20, 2019, 01:30 AM

Nov 2019

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If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Biden-There is a lot of talk out there on where I stand when it comes to our marijuana laws. [View all] Gothmog Nov 2019 OP

That should shut down the critics. George II Nov 2019 #1

It should, but a lot of them don't want to be bothered with facts. highplainsdem Nov 2019 #5

The facts are that Biden was slower than other candidates and most PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #13

No doubt Joe would like voters to ignore the facts...but give Joe some credit for shifting positions InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #16

I do credit Biden for the ability to adjust his positions over time. PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #18

Tru dat!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #30

And, I bet, catching some flack The Mouth Nov 2019 #80

So what? I don't care.. Biden is the one to beat trump Cha Nov 2019 #20

I think that Biden can beat Trump and we are in big trouble PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #23

State elections are far more important SterlingPound Nov 2019 #26

Getting Trump out of office either PufPuf23 Nov 2019 #28

the next elections at the state level will be drawing the lines for the next decade SterlingPound Nov 2019 #29

Michigan voted DownriverDem Nov 2019 #31

Nice SterlingPound Nov 2019 #32

Arizona has done well since the nonpartisan redistricting. sweetloukillbot Nov 2019 #56

"all politics is local" The Mouth Nov 2019 #68

I agree that state elections are important Gothmog Nov 2019 #97

I think your message must be getting lost or is pretty much just not that good SterlingPound Nov 2019 #100

Now it is a contest about who gets there first? treestar Nov 2019 #73

And some just want to bash Biden...which is already developing in this thread as well Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #15

Calling a bullshit position bullshit is not bashing The Mouth Nov 2019 #89

Recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #2

Yay.. I just saw this in GD and asked them to Cha Nov 2019 #3

Hey Cha Gothmog Nov 2019 #11

I don't know what all the fuss was about. betsuni Nov 2019 #4

K&R! Thanks, Gothmog! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #6

Yes... thank you Goth..a long redundant totally rambling ridiculous thread yesterday evening Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #7

That's a reasonable position DrToast Nov 2019 #8

And, I bet there would be plenty Cha Nov 2019 #12

I've been researching 50 years... LakeArenal Nov 2019 #38

As one of his critics, this revised statement is most welcome. Thank you. LonePirate Nov 2019 #9

This isn't new or revised. It was all in the plan to strengthen our justice system that was highplainsdem Nov 2019 #19

This has always been his position since the beginning of his run...he thinks it needs more study and Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #49

Hey Goth.. Cha Nov 2019 #10

Hey Cha Gothmog Nov 2019 #52

Thank you, Goth! Smart and sensible stance, hardly draconian, reactionary, or punitive. Would emmaverybo Nov 2019 #14

Yes!! We don't want to go from one policy to another and inadvertently make things worse Thekaspervote Nov 2019 #17

Good clarification mcar Nov 2019 #21

Glad he tweeted this. redqueen Nov 2019 #22

Makes me wonder why he can't say legalize cannabis...period. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #24

Why should he say legalize pot when he means decriminalize pot? beastie boy Nov 2019 #27

Decriminalize can mean only lessening the criminality aikoaiko Nov 2019 #33

Isn't that you parsing? LakeArenal Nov 2019 #39

States under a Biden administration are free to legalize it...I would remind you that not all states Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #46

Actually, it means eliminating criminality. beastie boy Nov 2019 #69

"A misdemeanor is not a crime." Uhhh. Yes it is. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #70

My bad. It is a crime. It is not a felony. Like jaywalking is a crime but not a felony. beastie boy Nov 2019 #71

True, the penalties are not as severe for misdemeanors, but... aikoaiko Nov 2019 #92

I thought Biden was clear on this: EXPUNGE THEIR CRIMINAL RECORDS! beastie boy Nov 2019 #94

It doesn't necessarily apply to "the box". aikoaiko Nov 2019 #95

Penalties for possession of Schedule 3 drugs are about the same as for drunk driving. beastie boy Nov 2019 #99

And *HAS* to be mentioned and explained The Mouth Nov 2019 #81

I pity you. beastie boy Nov 2019 #112

It is a crime that draws a fine, not prison if convicted. Blue_true Nov 2019 #106

Misdemeanors often allow the convicted to be jailed for up to 1 year aikoaiko Nov 2019 #108

Decriminalization reduces the penalty to a Fine. Blue_true Nov 2019 #105

I for one want to support a candidate who unambiguously supports legalizing totodeinhere Nov 2019 #109

The black market is booming since legalization here in California. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #43

Because it's taxed very heavily The Mouth Nov 2019 #82

The promise that marijuana sales would generate significant tax revenue... The Valley Below Nov 2019 #84

Legalize it and keep the taxes reasonable The Mouth Nov 2019 #85

Sorry, I won't "spare you" from the truth. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #87

Aren't you on the wrong forum? The Mouth Nov 2019 #88

Definitely NOT! The Valley Below Nov 2019 #90

I was going to ask you the same question LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #91

No, The Mouth Nov 2019 #93

Several medical studies have shown that Pot use below a specific age is detrimental. Blue_true Nov 2019 #107

because if it was legal peops in subsidized housing could use it questionseverything Nov 2019 #64

Legalization should be decided by states. Decriminalization, Rescheduling Classification, Blue_true Nov 2019 #104

Fuzzy on the issue bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #25

you do that.. I'll stay with Biden who is Cha Nov 2019 #34

beating trump bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #44

Biden is stronger.. and I like him for the job.. he Cha Nov 2019 #48

All bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #53

I'd say being a valued VP under Pres Obama for 8 years.. Cha Nov 2019 #57

It is not a voting issue for me but Biden's position is fine with me. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #42

So, still against legalization then melman Nov 2019 #35

Legalization will happen at the state level...and Biden won't interfere with that...so sour grapes- Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #41

It's not sour grapes melman Nov 2019 #45

Moving the goalposts again, eh? LanternWaste Nov 2019 #72

You should keep your hat on melman Nov 2019 #78

employment bluedovepdx Nov 2019 #47

So some people will still be locked up for doing the same thing big business are allowed to make... JoeOtterbein Nov 2019 #36

people in public housing cant use it questionseverything Nov 2019 #65

Same for seniors in facilities that receive government funding. JudyM Nov 2019 #66

exactly, he is so out of touch with regular peoples lives questionseverything Nov 2019 #98

Please don't make too much sense here Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #101

Wise advice. JudyM Nov 2019 #102

works for me. nt BootinUp Nov 2019 #37

That is perfect. That takes the wind out of their sails. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #40

Kicking for Joe Biden! Cha Nov 2019 #50

Thanks for making that one clear, Joe. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #51

What percentage of those wanting to keep cannabis possession The Wizard Nov 2019 #54

When he legalizes medical marijuana flotsam Nov 2019 #55

this critic appreciates proud patriot Nov 2019 #58

Parse each word. We need federal law OhNo-Really Nov 2019 #59

Based on Joe Biden's history of being a huge Drug War supporter Eric J in MN Nov 2019 #60

I don't care if you "trust" him or not.. Many more Cha Nov 2019 #61

Actions speak louder than words The Mouth Nov 2019 #96

I'm Glad Biden Clarified His Position Indykatie Nov 2019 #62

K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #63

I'm sleep deprived this morning, but didn't he just say he viewed it as a gateway drug? JudyM Nov 2019 #67

That was then, this is now The Mouth Nov 2019 #86

Sounds perfectly reasonable treestar Nov 2019 #74

Biden is out of touch LeftTurn3623 Nov 2019 #75

Sounds reasonable and progressive Baked Potato Nov 2019 #76

THis is pretty much what it said in the article that started all this hubbub OKNancy Nov 2019 #77

The "hubbub" was that he thinks weed might be a gateway drug. progressoid Nov 2019 #83

Good. Not great, but good enough The Mouth Nov 2019 #79

I am exactly where he is on every point. Blue_true Nov 2019 #103

Joe is totally right on every point. Not to mention that R B Garr Nov 2019 #110

Nate Silver has some great observations Gothmog Nov 2019 #111

Biden did not say that Marijuana is a gateway drug Gothmog Nov 2019 #113

FDA warns 15 companies for illegally selling....cannabidiol as agency details safety concerns Gothmog Nov 2019 #114