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19. NYT : Many in Milwaukee Neighborhood Didn't Vote -- and Don't Regret It
Thu Nov 21, 2019, 05:58 PM
Nov 2019
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html

MILWAUKEE — Four barbers and a firefighter were pondering their future under a Trump presidency at the Upper Cutz barbershop last week.

“We got to figure this out,” said Cedric Fleming, one of the barbers. “We got a gangster in the chair now,” he said, referring to President-elect Donald J. Trump.They admitted that they could not complain too much: Only two of them had voted. But there were no regrets. “I don’t feel bad,” Mr. Fleming said, trimming a mustache. “Milwaukee is tired. Both of them were terrible. They never do anything for us anyway.”

Wisconsin, a state that Hillary Clinton had assumed she would win, historically boasts one of the nation’s highest rates of voter participation; this year’s 68.3 percent turnout was the fifth best among the 50 states. But by local standards, it was a disappointment, the lowest turnout in 16 years. And those no-shows were important. Mr. Trump won the state by just 27,000 voters.

Milwaukee’s lowest-income neighborhoods offer one explanation for the turnout figures. Of the city’s 15 council districts, the decline in turnout from 2012 to 2016 in the five poorest was consistently much greater than the drop seen in more prosperous areas — accounting for half of the overall decline in turnout citywide.

The biggest drop was here in District 15, a stretch of fading wooden homes, sandwich shops and fast-food restaurants that is 84 percent black. In this district, voter turnout declined by 19.5 percent from 2012 figures, according to Neil Albrecht, executive director of the City of Milwaukee Election Commission. It is home to some of Milwaukee’s poorest residents and, according to a 2016 documentary, “Milwaukee 53206,” has one of the nation’s highest per-capita incarceration rates.

At Upper Cutz, a bustling barbershop in a green-trimmed wooden house, talk of politics inevitably comes back to one man: Barack Obama. Mr. Obama’s elections infused many here with a feeling of connection to national politics they had never before experienced. But their lives have not gotten appreciably better, and sourness has set in.


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and when we did vote there was also this occurring (especially with A-A men, of whom around 13% voted for Rump, versus only 4% of A-A women)...



Mostly black neighborhoods voted more Republican in 2016 than in 2012

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/25/mostly-black-neighborhoods-voted-more-republican-in-2016-than-in-2012/

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A few things jump out. First: The most heavily white neighborhoods voted much more heavily Republican in 2016 than in 2012 (the dark red line shoots up past the light-red one). Second, the most heavily black neighborhoods voted less heavily Democratic last year than four years ago. (We’ll come back to this, obviously.) Third, Hispanic neighborhoods voted for Republicans less than in 2012.

The net effect of those shifts can be measured by comparing the margin between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney in 2012 with the Trump-Clinton margin in each neighborhood last year. In heavily white neighborhoods, a big shift to the Republicans. In mostly Hispanic neighborhoods, generally more support for the Democrat, except in the most dense places (although, as the chart on the right makes clear, the sample size for those is very small and therefore more subject to volatility).


If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Dunno, but both can be true zaj Nov 2019 #1
I don't think so.. There was voter suppression Cha Nov 2019 #2
Democrats tend to nominate smart, wonky experts... zaj Nov 2019 #7
I think that's a fair analysis; no question Elizabeth would have trounced tRumpty Dumbty had she run InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #33
We ran the candidate who won the nomination because she dominated her opponents in the primary StevieM Nov 2019 #10
No, but we have a lot of evidence that powerful storytelling matters zaj Nov 2019 #12
Apparently her storytelling was powerful enough that she dominated her opponents in the primary. StevieM Nov 2019 #14
I think that is a valid point. "other than President Obama". Jewls2 Nov 2019 #13
Shhh...it's a secret. StevieM Nov 2019 #16
Oh, with just about everything HRC. For sure. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #17
I got the impression he was saying the black vote was down in Wisc. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #3
That's not the way most are Cha Nov 2019 #5
During this campaign we have seen an alignment with Biden/Obama/HRC. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #9
We lost the election because the Russian interfered on several dewsgirl Nov 2019 #4
Yes, there are many documented facts of Cha Nov 2019 #6
NYT : Many in Milwaukee Neighborhood Didn't Vote -- and Don't Regret It Celerity Nov 2019 #19
It scares me that people don't understand how significant James Comey was. StevieM Nov 2019 #8
There are a lot of reasons HRC lost that had nothing to do with her. I think HRC ran one of the Jewls2 Nov 2019 #11
Excellent post. StevieM Nov 2019 #18
Yep. I agree. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #28
And the total black population in Wisconsin is 370,375. TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #15
Why are so many of OUR candidates obsessed with Hillary Clinton? George II Nov 2019 #20
Why couldn't Booker talk about the Voter Suppression in Cha Nov 2019 #27
Because for Booker, the bigger conversation was showing the difference between himself and Biden Jewls2 Nov 2019 #29
Oh yeah.. "..Booker is allowed.. " of course. He Cha Nov 2019 #31
That is not what he said. I do not think he looked petty, but argued a point. Jewls2 Nov 2019 #32
That's the quote in the OP.. and that is petty.. and not true.. Cha Nov 2019 #35
Whatever else happened, there were BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #21
Exactly, BlueMT! I just posted about Stein's LIES in Wisconsin Cha Nov 2019 #30
The GOP BlueMTexpat Nov 2019 #36
what motivation did they need Skittles Nov 2019 #22
Lots of research shows this is so. zentrum Nov 2019 #23
Very true... no reason to pretend otherwise. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #34
yeah, with all the brainwashed hate thrown at her 24/7 from Cha Nov 2019 #38
"According to an analyses of voter turnout data by the political scientist Bernard Fraga betsuni Nov 2019 #24
Thanks for that, Cha Nov 2019 #37
Is that how Scott Walker became Gov in 2011? The Dem just did not energize delisen Nov 2019 #25
I really doubt that Booker will make the next debate Gothmog Nov 2019 #26
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