Democratic Primaries

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1. Obama

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Thu Nov 21, 2019, 11:06 PM

Nov 2019

is correct.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Obama: We are not going to win just by increasing the turnout of people who already agree with us [View all] highplainsdem Nov 2019 OP

Obama evertonfc Nov 2019 #1

He's wrong. crazytown Nov 2019 #2

Don't remind us what happened there. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #20

And she would have had a 2012 turnout customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #22

This is exactly right BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #23

Similarly customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #24

I'd rather have someone like Tammy Duckworth but agree balance is imperative. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #29

I remember rownesheck Nov 2019 #26

I live in VA, and I said the same thing when I found out Kaine was the pick!! WTF? Nay Nov 2019 #37

Yes customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #40

It was a swing state...and Romney was considered a moderate Democrat... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #46

With the exception of Geraldine Ferraro, Kaine was easily the weakest VP nominee of this party in Midwestern Democrat Nov 2019 #71

That was a move to the middle, just as Obama is suggesting mjvpi Nov 2019 #51

Hmmm I'm not sure I agree with your hypothesis BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #56

I don't either customerserviceguy Nov 2019 #72

Why do you think she picked Kaine? mjvpi Nov 2019 #77

All real Democrats would agree with PBO n/t PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #68

that was my first response stopdiggin Nov 2019 #28

He is not wrong...and here in Ohio some who voted for Obama did not vote for Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #41

+1 Joe941 Nov 2019 #58

You just proved the point that he made. Blue_true Nov 2019 #60

Says the guy with record high turnout IronLionZion Nov 2019 #3

He's absolutely correct. redqueen Nov 2019 #4

Empirically, Obama is not correct. crazytown Nov 2019 #12

They turned out for Obama and were not neccesarily base voters...also I will remind Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #42

Moderate to right wing gerrymandering nut jobs. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #52

Gerrymandering doesn't affect a Federal election though. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #82

It does. We can still pull it out. LakeArenal Nov 2019 #84

"LakeArenal 84. It does. We can still pull it out." NO..no it doesn't AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #86

Black voter turnout fell in 2016 wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #88

President Obama is the kind of candidate that only comes along The Mouth Nov 2019 #54

He blew his first two years trying to find middle ground. TryLogic Nov 2019 #5

You don't remember how difficult it was for Obama to get anything through the Senate even his highplainsdem Nov 2019 #8

Not one Republican voted for the ACA. crazytown Nov 2019 #13

Read the thread I linked to. The ACA passed because Arlen Specter switched parties because of Biden highplainsdem Nov 2019 #14

Edge of our Seats Times! Cha Nov 2019 #15

Will do. crazytown Nov 2019 #16

I had forgotten that. That is right without this, the ACA would have gone down. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #47

This just shows how utterly broken our senate is wellst0nev0ter Nov 2019 #89

Yes, same as Harry Reid. And some still hold that wishful thinking view. JudyM Nov 2019 #10

No way in hell President Obama "blew his first 2 years.. " Stop Cha Nov 2019 #11

Agree. zentrum Nov 2019 #19

No, President Obama did Not "Blow his first 2 years Cha Nov 2019 #27

Big majorities? Really? In 2009-2011 we had control of the House, but GUESS WHAT, legislation DOES still_one Nov 2019 #33

Brilliant breakdown StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #38

I think a good number of Monday morning quarter backs have a disconnect, and don't realize what still_one Nov 2019 #39

The biggest impediment at the time re: Public Option BumRushDaShow Nov 2019 #75

Big majorities? Let's not make shit up. That's part of the problem. n/t Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #35

After Kennedy became sick we lost our 60 vote majority...it was not about GOP types being Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #43

You recollection is not correct. I suggest Google. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #48

Revisionist history. Joe941 Nov 2019 #59

I lost some faith in Obama when he brought Rahm Emanuel in. nbsmom Nov 2019 #85

"But gin up about the prospect of rallying behind whoever emerges from this process and making sure Cha Nov 2019 #6

lotsa ppl who agree with us sit out elections. be nice if they voted nt msongs Nov 2019 #7

Agree, but you can't make them. Obama's turnout was large because it was a Nay Nov 2019 #55

We won KY and La. by turning out the base ritapria Nov 2019 #9

Thank you BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #17

Look at the suburbs totals without which we would have lost. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #49

No we didn't...we won by turning out the base and getting new voters in the suburbs... Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #44

I agree. And that is what President Obama did in 2008 and 2012 and Hillary failed to do in 2016. nt Blue_true Nov 2019 #63

You are really conflating things. Blue_true Nov 2019 #62

He said "people who already agree with us completely on everything" StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #18

Yes, it is! Cha Nov 2019 #25

No one wants to admit or talk about it marlakay Nov 2019 #21

I believe Obama covered this ground precisely stopdiggin Nov 2019 #30

It doesn't look like some people have learned a lesson. Blue_true Nov 2019 #65

Well I hope those who didn't vote for Hillary are happy about what they did...they literally Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #45

Exactly the DNC was biased against Bernie. That has kept me angry... Joe941 Nov 2019 #61

The primary voters were biased against Bernie...he lost and will again. AncientGeezer Nov 2019 #83

It has been decisively shown that the DNC DID NOT FAVOR HILLARY. Blue_true Nov 2019 #64

God bless the man. He's right. Hekate Nov 2019 #31

I admire Obama, but people who pay $$$ money to hear him, already know this. YOHABLO Nov 2019 #32

K&R Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #34

But what does HE know about winning elections? brooklynite Nov 2019 #36

I agree completely! Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #50

I think Obama knows we are about to F this up and cause Trump to have 4 more years.. helpisontheway Nov 2019 #53

The free everything candidates will cost us the election during a time of a record high deficit, emmaverybo Nov 2019 #78

Obama on key values: "Be kind. Be useful. Ask why not? Cha Nov 2019 #57

Post removed Post removed Nov 2019 #66

Republicans. betsuni Nov 2019 #67

The "do nothings" are the people who don't vote LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #69

Exacta Mundo. The biggest lie people have fallen for since Reagan has been "your vote doesn't ... marble falls Nov 2019 #79

Do what is right, not what is easy DCofVA Nov 2019 #70

He's half right Meub Nov 2019 #73

If we don't retain them, they don't really support us LongtimeAZDem Nov 2019 #74

He is speaking truth. The candidate must appeal to other voters FloridaBlues Nov 2019 #76

Summary: It requires more than just great turnout from the Democratic base to win andym Nov 2019 #80

This message was self-deleted by its author elocs Nov 2019 #81

Says the man Jakes Progress Nov 2019 #87