Democratic Primaries

Jarqui

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121. "there is a large and virulent anti-Bernie faction here and I worry about PUMAs."

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 11:23 AM

Mar 2019

I don't worry or concern myself too much about that.

I have to look inside and decide which candidate seems most right for me. In early 2016, I was partial to Hillary. But as it developed, I liked Bernie's policies more. After I licked my wounds of disappointment, I supported Hillary as the Democrat and because I was so anti-Trump.

This time around, the slate is again clean. I will ultimately support whoever the Democrats select as I have for decades. I have to do a bunch of studying and following the various candidates to determine who I like most. I don't have a preference right now. I'm looking for something newer than Sanders or Biden but may not find it. I doubt I'll have an answer until we get some of the debates done.

In the interim, the anti-Bernie faction or PUMAS or whoever are just noise or distractions I have to cut through. I have to find my own way.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I believe that Sanders is not electable. You can argue, but this is true [View all] Stuart G Mar 2019 OP

If Sanders is the nominee I will unite behind him 100%. mobeau69 Mar 2019 #1

:) No worry we'd have to gird our loins for that. Hortensis Mar 2019 #72

don't be so sure - it's our nightmare scenario.... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #114

I never vote in a primary with my heart. I have always voted for the primary candidate Autumn Mar 2019 #125

not fear... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #127

I always vote wisely. I vote for the Democratic candidate in the primary who best Autumn Mar 2019 #129

Me too. And then I enthusiastically get behind the eventual nominee emulatorloo Mar 2019 #186

:) Mine either, but they all share my principles Hortensis Mar 2019 #201

Yes that's what we do. The end game is to put the Democrat in office. Autumn Mar 2019 #207

Yes debates are key for me as well emulatorloo Mar 2019 #208

Same to you. Autumn Mar 2019 #212

I'm a head-over-heart kind of gal. ALWAYS. calimary Mar 2019 #221

one question that comes to mind G_j Mar 2019 #236

You have a right to express your opinion but Your stats on how Sanders supporters voted are bizarre. hedda_foil Mar 2019 #131

... lapucelle Mar 2019 #154

... lapucelle Mar 2019 #155

Thank you. I stand corrected. hedda_foil Mar 2019 #161

NP lapucelle Mar 2019 #215

Jill Stein is now officially the Ralph Nader of 2016. Cha Mar 2019 #172

Jill Stein wasn't the only one who tried to convince voters that Trump and HRC were both "evil". N/T lapucelle Mar 2019 #219

Yep. calimary Mar 2019 #224

That's right.. she Cha Mar 2019 #234

BOOM! calimary Mar 2019 #223

Misogyny pure and simple Dream Girl May 2019 #302

Those were the republicans Bernie won over that went back to the repub candidate onit2day Mar 2019 #192

Do you have a link with stats showing that BS to Trump voters were mostly Republicans? lapucelle Mar 2019 #214

That is pure speculation. Bernie has nothing to do with Stein and worked hard to get dems elected onit2day Mar 2019 #187

talk about revisionist history.. getagrip_already Mar 2019 #237

Too bad what it "sounds like" to you.. BS is .. Cha Mar 2019 #250

BS hired 3 stein voters for Cha May 2019 #299

I don't think winning the primary BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #240

Guess that's why he leads in all the polls, why polls showed him beating Trump onit2day Mar 2019 #177

You are relying on polls in a hypothetical matchup TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #200

Hypothetical matchups n/t BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #241

NO he Does NOT. Cha Mar 2019 #251

THIS!!!! +1,000 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2019 #280

With less than 30% support in the party, sanders is not electable Gothmog Apr 2019 #282

True story musicman65 May 2019 #290

sanders is polling far below 30%now Gothmog May 2019 #291

So what you're saying is Lazy Daisy Mar 2019 #2

I know right? Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2019 #3

I will support the nominee of the party Gothmog Mar 2019 #9

Yes, unlike much of Sanders' top campaign staffers, we'll vote for the DEMOCRATIC nominee. George II Mar 2019 #90

And. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #12

The terms of service for DU members state that they can be banned if they discourage other members TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #24

Exactly this LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #77

Because E. Warren would be vice president and Bernie believes He is best candidate& wants the job onit2day Mar 2019 #191

It's far more likely that a Sanders/Warren would be a disaster. TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #199

Doesn't that appear to be the primary goal BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #242

For the same reason people want Joe Biden. We like the policies!!! vsrazdem Mar 2019 #252

So if Sanders loses Trumpocalypse Apr 2019 #274

How can sanders win key primaries with no support from African American voters? Gothmog Mar 2019 #8

He can't. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #13

Of course he can FBaggins Mar 2019 #61

He did in 2016 onit2day Mar 2019 #193

Which states are those? TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #202

I'd love an expansion on this. Socal31 Mar 2019 #15

Good questions. LuvNewcastle Mar 2019 #132

I wouldn't say no support JonLP24 Mar 2019 #31

Higher than Kamala Harris and Corey Booker? I don't think so. yardwork Mar 2019 #60

Yes higher than Kamala Harris or Booker JonLP24 Mar 2019 #63

The Intercept?! Get that Russian propaganda off DU. yardwork Mar 2019 #113

They quote an actual poll JonLP24 Mar 2019 #122

Linking to the Intercept is an automatic loss of credibility. yardwork Mar 2019 #136

That is funny because Rachel Maddow used the Intercept whenever they break stories JonLP24 Mar 2019 #197

So on that poll, namahage Mar 2019 #143

Don't worry. They do this with every poll that shows Bernie up. vsrazdem Mar 2019 #255

LOL. If he had been anointed last time, he would be president vsrazdem Mar 2019 #253

Where were the African American voters at the recent event in South Carolina? Gothmog Mar 2019 #140

I watched it live JonLP24 Mar 2019 #198

Less than 4% of crowd was African American Gothmog Mar 2019 #209

I'm not sure I trust Washington Post which has a strong anti progressive bias JonLP24 Mar 2019 #211

I like living in the real world and I have a subscription to the Washington Post Gothmog Mar 2019 #213

I live in the real world too and the Washington Post bias is obvious JonLP24 Mar 2019 #220

Where are the non whites at this rally? Gothmog Mar 2019 #222

I'm not into counting people in a crowd JonLP24 Mar 2019 #229

I was a Clinton delegate to the National Convention Gothmog Mar 2019 #232

I didn't know you were a at the National Convention as a delegate. Stuart G Apr 2019 #269

This was not a fun experience Gothmog Apr 2019 #271

Huh? Thekaspervote May 2019 #303

Short answer GWC58 Mar 2019 #45

He's hired nina and briebrie to run cover for him and cornell to Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #62

That's nonsense. He has a great deal of support from A-A voters. He won key primaries last time onit2day Mar 2019 #179

No, sanders got little support from this demographic in the real world Gothmog Mar 2019 #182

Where were these supporters at an event at an African American church??? Gothmog Mar 2019 #246

No. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #10

Funny how his staff couldn't vote for the Democrat, but expect unity now... Kahuna7 Mar 2019 #64

+1 betsuni Mar 2019 #71

+++ sheshe2 Mar 2019 #126

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #128

Seriously! Somebody should tell Bernie, who's leading all fellow Democratic candidates who've InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #11

Where in the world did you get that metric? fleabiscuit Mar 2019 #30

Could've sworn I said all fellow Democrats who've declared they're running in 2020... InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #97

Interesting that a guy who hasn't even announced yet is in first place, by a LOT. George II Mar 2019 #99

Joes waiting until april to get in so he doesn't have to show .. aidbo Mar 2019 #119

He will not win the nomination. He'll probably be in the lower tier of candidates delegate-wise... George II Mar 2019 #91

Maybe we should wait to find out! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #98

We don't need another center right corporate dem with years of baggage that's for sure onit2day Mar 2019 #194

Why not at least nominate a progressive Democrat this time who is more representative of what InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #206

No. But we need more than regular voters coming out to vote. We need passionate, all out, support -- pnwmom Mar 2019 #35

He is saying... bobGandolf Mar 2019 #40

It is possible to support a candidate and work hard for them... brooklynite Mar 2019 #55

I agree that it is pretty basic common knowledge. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #56

Why is that funny? yardwork Mar 2019 #57

+∞ LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #81

No, he's saying that moderate Republicans and Independents will never vote for a socialist LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #79

I don't think anyone said that at all. And you're talking about "making this shit up"? George II Mar 2019 #87

Will they receive a special dispensation because they don't like Bernie? Autumn Mar 2019 #111

No u can't Daisy...these endless Bernie bashin threads are gettin repetitive & frankly a lil boring. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #152

They bash every post a Bernie supporter puts up and when there aren't any, vsrazdem Mar 2019 #254

Beyond desperate... and mostly just sad. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2019 #256

What he's saying.. and it's Cha May 2019 #313

For all candidates we need to think how they can handle the republican attack machine. California_Republic Mar 2019 #4

Mayor Pete has a LOT working for him to offset the attack machine for being gay mr_lebowski Mar 2019 #18

"I have a decent amount of faith he can handle the attack machine ... True Dough Mar 2019 #46

All good points N/T bobGandolf Mar 2019 #41

They'll go right past the socialist label Mr.Bill Mar 2019 #158

I agree-- he seems to be the "Trump of the Left" preferring fighting to governing... TreasonousBastard Mar 2019 #5

I agree, Stuart! Just look at the history. Cha Mar 2019 #6

I also believe that sanders is not electable Gothmog Mar 2019 #7

I know I won't forget GWC58 Mar 2019 #47

I believe Sen. Sanders is electable. You can argue, but this is true Devil Child Mar 2019 #14

Thank you. shanny Mar 2019 #116

It is a bit much and over the top IMO shanny Devil Child Mar 2019 #145

As it stands currently, Biden is the most electable in the GE Socal31 Mar 2019 #16

I don't understand why people think Biden is electable JonLP24 Mar 2019 #29

The numbers suggest otherwise. Socal31 Mar 2019 #32

This is where I based my comment off of JonLP24 Mar 2019 #33

Data is more credible are this juncture than op-eds. Socal31 Mar 2019 #36

The OP is saying Sanders is not electable and not providing any data JonLP24 Mar 2019 #37

Socialism is the biggest gaffe out there. R B Garr Mar 2019 #65

Most people polled equate "socialism" with equality JonLP24 Mar 2019 #69

Democratic Socialism DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #108

Actually, most people equate socialism with government control. R B Garr Mar 2019 #109

Most people according to the poll said equality JonLP24 Mar 2019 #244

A poll, one, doesn't change the government R B Garr Mar 2019 #247

I'm sure that when the Republicans were calling Obama a "socialist," namahage Mar 2019 #243

Me too. shanny Mar 2019 #117

But Bernie isn't the past? TexasTowelie Mar 2019 #203

Bernie has an "Established in 1990" plaque on his office door. betsuni Mar 2019 #204

On DU he is not treestar May 2019 #294

I already went through the "electable" arguments last time JonLP24 May 2019 #296

I also think that Joe Biden is the most electable candidate Gothmog Mar 2019 #141

I agree.....100%! chillfactor Mar 2019 #17

And he thinks the reason Trump won was because Dems ignored the working class. betsuni Mar 2019 #19

Yes, he's dead set on that.. Cha Mar 2019 #21

Keeping a straight face here. sheshe2 Mar 2019 #25

That's because Bernie has a yuuuuuge ego. yardwork Mar 2019 #59

In a nutshell, yep. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #82

I always liked Bernie but you say you know best. rusty quoin Mar 2019 #20

i hear various... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #22

I agree with you, but not for the same reasons. RDANGELO Mar 2019 #23

I still haven't figured out which candidate I like most Jarqui Mar 2019 #26

I don't know why this point is always overlooked: shanny Mar 2019 #118

"there is a large and virulent anti-Bernie faction here and I worry about PUMAs." Jarqui Mar 2019 #121

Makes sense. shanny Mar 2019 #134

There are a couple that are very unlikely for me Jarqui Mar 2019 #135

Why does this no infighting privilege other candidates? JonLP24 Mar 2019 #27

Time will tell, however any candidate not releasing their tax returns OnDoutside Mar 2019 #28

Only two Democratic candidates have released them Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #150

Out of how many who have actually declared? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #257

agree! Thekaspervote Mar 2019 #34

The question for me is vlyons Mar 2019 #38

Yes some assholes will Freddie Mar 2019 #43

Or vote for Jill LIES stein like Cha Mar 2019 #49

Like BS's campaign co-chair, and his speechwriter, and his press secretary, and . . . LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #86

Yeah, like those suckers who encouraged Cha Mar 2019 #89

Since most Sanders supporters voted for Hillary in 2016 I think they will again. We know the Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #73

Did you vote for her? lunamagica Apr 2019 #283

Of course. Dont know anyone of my Bernie supporter friends who didn't. But we are all Nanjeanne Apr 2019 #284

Almost certainly, because they will double down on the "he got robbed" canard LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #84

If you look at some of his top staffers, they won't stay home but they won't vote for the Democrat. George II Mar 2019 #102

My word, never thought I'd see this OP. bobGandolf Mar 2019 #39

Thank you for this Freddie Mar 2019 #42

2016 changed things KayF Mar 2019 #44

You bet 2016 changed things. It's called Cha Mar 2019 #48

The "safe candidate lost", because some self-identified progressives refused to vote for the still_one Mar 2019 #66

Exactly LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #170

She had 3 opposition campaigns working against her. R B Garr Mar 2019 #67

+1. Opponents supercharged by Russian analytics and disinformation dalton99a Mar 2019 #88

Trump/Stein/Sanders/Putin/USM$M******! Cha Mar 2019 #93

Yes, indeed - Fox News and CNN being the most prominent 24/7 megaphones dalton99a Mar 2019 #95

& Andrea Mitchell.. But her emails. Cha Mar 2019 #96

And, as well as those you mentioned Cha Mar 2019 #92

And I believe that Sherman A1 Mar 2019 #50

who thought trump was electable? pick your favorite candidate and Kurt V. Mar 2019 #51

A lot of people thought Trump was electable; that's why we tried to warn Sanders supporters LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #80

Agreed. The past will be the same as the future. democratisphere Mar 2019 #52

+Millions! Cha Mar 2019 #53

If Bernie got the nomination, I have no doubt he'll go toe to toe with Trump. Kanoko Mar 2019 #54

BS is too Divisive.. he's made it clear Cha Mar 2019 #68

He has hired senior staff who are hostile to the Democratic party. ehrnst Mar 2019 #70

+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #101

Bernie believes if he isn't the democratic nominee njhoneybadger Mar 2019 #58

Exactly. It's why he says in his rally speeches that he will support the Dem nominee and Nanjeanne Mar 2019 #76

A lot of similarities for sure. -NT. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #83

+1 dalton99a Mar 2019 #124

The single most important idea that we have in this forum in this group of people: honesty. Stuart G Mar 2019 #74

Bernie was never vetted in the 2016 primary campaign. kstewart33 Mar 2019 #105

Unelectable AND damaging the chances for the rest imo. Amimnoch Mar 2019 #75

Yes, and there is proof..if you accept it. Stuart G Mar 2019 #85

Amen! Cha Mar 2019 #94

Great post. dalton99a Mar 2019 #104

Sanders is having no friction with the other candidates Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #151

Google" David Sirota" "journalistic ethics" "political operative." ehrnst Mar 2019 #230

Sanders is wasting people's time and energy. And they will be angry when he goes nowhere. Again. PubliusEnigma Mar 2019 #78

Of course he's not electable. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #100

A guy that ran an extension cord to his basement apartment because he couldn't pay his bills LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #103

Anybody that reads my posts knows I am one of the most sanguine posters on our chances. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #106

The abomination has the entire GOP apparatus behind him dalton99a Mar 2019 #107

The data suggests Trump is an underdog and I believe he is. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #112

The idiot is no Superman. But we need a strong turnout driven by a strong ticket. dalton99a Mar 2019 #115

Exactly. You want to get people to vote for him again? Nominate a socialist carreer politician LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #123

Counterpoint: you're wrong. aidbo Mar 2019 #110

OK, I won't argue that you believe Bernie is not electable BobMcWan Mar 2019 #120

Thanks for this reply, Bob. RobertDevereaux Mar 2019 #133

How exactly will any president achieve Medicare for all? yardwork Mar 2019 #138

I will vote for our parties nominee no matter who. Stuart G Mar 2019 #139

I'm in Florida radical noodle Mar 2019 #196

If it's a referendum election Trump is likely done. If he can make it a choice he isn't. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2019 #130

Thank goodness we have you to tell us what is true. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #137

Opinion: The myth of ideology, and why Democrats' energy isn't all on the left Gothmog Mar 2019 #142

So do you "believe," or is it "true"? Which is it? MadDAsHell Mar 2019 #144

If you say so. dogman Mar 2019 #146

I agree with the OP, to a point, as a Sanders supporter in 2016 BlueWI Mar 2019 #147

I agree. we can do it Mar 2019 #148

Last point - I want to lift up the name of George McGovern. BlueWI Mar 2019 #149

We need a candidate who is a loyal Democrat, who is a member of the Doodley Mar 2019 #153

"believe" being the key word. we have religious freedom, thank God. pdsimdars Mar 2019 #156

I am voting Democrat in November. Male of this what you will robbedvoter Mar 2019 #157

Interesting Freudian slip LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #168

I think that Sanders would take a coast to coast beating... MarianJack Mar 2019 #159

So do I. And then we are truly screwed. We can nominate someone who Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #189

Good Analysis Mjolnir1956 Mar 2019 #160

e: "We need to be totally united to beat them" thesquanderer Mar 2019 #162

Agree with you about Sanders zentrum Mar 2019 #163

It's definitely true that you believe that. No argument there. Gore1FL Mar 2019 #164

You admit that you believe Sanders isn't electable. man4allcats Mar 2019 #165

The OP is right.. BS is too Divisive. Cha Mar 2019 #169

Why not let the OP speak for her/himself? man4allcats Mar 2019 #174

The OP has spoken for hmself.. didn't you Cha Mar 2019 #175

So you admit that you and the OP have nothing more than opinion. man4allcats Mar 2019 #178

BS is too Divisive.. our Dems are more Cha Mar 2019 #181

I appreciate the match-up info. man4allcats Mar 2019 #185

And who is? quakerboy Mar 2019 #166

If BS is the answer ... it must be a terrible question n/t SFnomad Mar 2019 #167

Infight? RadicalProgressive Mar 2019 #171

Um. No. OhZone Mar 2019 #173

Exactly, OhZone! Aravois and Krugman weigh in on that, too.. Cha Mar 2019 #180

NO. BS is too divisive by his own Cha Mar 2019 #176

Last time around, BS supporters tried to blame things on Secretary Clinton SFnomad Mar 2019 #195

Messina Says Sanders Can't Beat Trump Gothmog Apr 2019 #273

Bernie is hoping for a brokered convention. Gothmog Apr 2019 #286

Maybe you are right or maybe you are wrong but regardless if Sanders should win the nomination cstanleytech Mar 2019 #183

You haven't learned yet what a corporate centrist with years of baggage does for the race? onit2day Mar 2019 #184

A Warren Sanders ticket will lose badly in the rustbelt states we must win. Demsrule86 Mar 2019 #190

NO seta1950 Mar 2019 #188

It's way too soon to be having this discussion. Let the process flow first. YOHABLO Mar 2019 #205

Sanders will never be the nominee for two reasons madville Mar 2019 #210

I have removed some language from the original post. Sorry if I offended anyone Stuart G Mar 2019 #216

Didnt see the original post. For me this is simple, I will ONLY vote for a Democrat. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #227

Shocking, another anti-Bernie post. nt USALiberal Mar 2019 #217

I stated an opinion in the original post. Stuart G Mar 2019 #218

I expect this to be the case for supporters of almost every candidate LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #228

Time for Ideas Not a Horserace: Campaign? McKim Mar 2019 #225

I agree customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #226

I agree, and for one primary reason: MineralMan Mar 2019 #231

Complete agreement, on all points LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #233

If he's nominated don't continue infighting. Aaron Pereira Mar 2019 #235

If he is nominated, I will zealously promote him to the very best of my ability. Period. LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #238

If he is nominated, I will support him as best I can. With money and work. We must win Stuart G Apr 2019 #265

What "institutional support within the Party" that "went to Nixon" are you talking about? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #239

I don't know about "1972" but funny he didn't bring up 2016.. Cha Mar 2019 #249

You mean like the "mistake" they made Cha Mar 2019 #248

Never heard of Steven Leser before, glad to see him excited about Buttigieg Celerity Mar 2019 #258

The Democrats Trump Fears Most Gothmog Mar 2019 #245

If the economy is strong, trump can win Gothmog Mar 2019 #259

You are correct. He is not the answer. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #260

Bernie Sanders is not electable in this country Awsi Dooger Mar 2019 #261

Unfortunately I think you are correct..Using Florida as an example is perfect. Stuart G Mar 2019 #263

I was all in on Sanders in 2016 Horse with no Name Mar 2019 #262

Washington Post-'Electability' and 'Bernie' don't belong in the same sentence Gothmog Apr 2019 #264

If sanders is the nominee, trump wins Gothmog Apr 2019 #266

According to this study trump could win Gothmog Apr 2019 #267

According to this study trump could win Gothmog Apr 2019 #268

So, I will say again..If Bernie is nominated, he already has divided the Democratic Party.!!! Stuart G Apr 2019 #270

According to Jim Messina, trump will beat sanders easily Gothmog Apr 2019 #272

Why just call out Sanders? artislife Apr 2019 #275

The voters will decide this and they like him across party lines. BeckyDem Apr 2019 #276

This message was self-deleted by its author doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #277

He is unless moderates decide to sit out the election if they don't get their way. doompatrol39 Apr 2019 #278

Agreed 100% NanceGreggs Apr 2019 #279

sanders want to get the nomination with only 30% support Gothmog Apr 2019 #281

Nate Silver- Sanders Can Win, But He Isn't Polling Like A Favorite Gothmog Apr 2019 #285

The choice may be Woke or Win Gothmog Apr 2019 #287

Opinion: If the economy keeps its momentum, 2020 will be Trump's to lose Gothmog May 2019 #288

I saw the light musicman65 May 2019 #289

bernie didn't even vote for mcgovern Otto Lidenbrock May 2019 #292

Get behind the nominee, whoever that is. Iggo May 2019 #293

I worked Beatleman May 2019 #295

can they just stop saying johannsyah May 2019 #297

Yeah, just like the bloated asshole currently sitting in the WH wasn't electable in 2016 either. mtnsnake May 2019 #298

Most Believe Socialism Is Not American Gothmog May 2019 #300

Most Americans don't know what "Socialism" is.. Stuart G May 2019 #301

But then many Americans who say they support Socialism emmaverybo May 2019 #304

This grows more and more true daily nt Celerity May 2019 #305

If Bernie loses support among youth, what is left??? Gothmog May 2019 #306

The message. aikoaiko May 2019 #307

sanders was counting on a brokered convention Gothmog May 2019 #308

I understand what you're saying and if things stay the same, you'll be right. aikoaiko May 2019 #309

Kick because of the ridiculous Biden copycat thread...nt SidDithers May 2019 #310

Agreed Gothmog May 2019 #312

Well said. Kick. WeekiWater May 2019 #311

Gallop-Less Than Half in U.S. Would Vote for a Socialist for President Gothmog May 2019 #314

Who is best musicman65 May 2019 #315

Bernie's mystery Soviet tapes revealed Gothmog May 2019 #316

This is interesting Gothmog May 2019 #317

New CNN poll: A majority of Americans say they think President Trump is going to win a second term Gothmog Jun 2019 #318

Washington Post-Sanders wants Americans to buy into socialism. He's got some convincing to do Gothmog Jun 2019 #319

New poll: Capitalism is more popular than socialism Gothmog Jun 2019 #320

Thanks, Goth.. Cha Jun 2019 #321