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AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
38. Sorry, the Federal Government is biased on this issue.
Tue Nov 26, 2019, 05:20 PM
Nov 2019

I'm not believing a study from the coal industry that more carbon emissions are good for the planet, because plants consume CO2.

Health orgs don't typically consider POLICY. If they found a correlation with entry level drug use with pot, and later harder drugs, that doesn't show pot is the cause/trigger/gateway/etc. Policy can be the gateway. In Portugal, when they decriminalized drug use, pot use went down, first time attempt to use it went down, the age at which people tried pot went up, and all other drugs across the board use also went down even more. There's no buoying effect, in their society, by way of pot use, into harder drugs.

The valid question the CDC isn't to my knowledge asking, is 'Does pot use in a society that bans pot and other recreational drugs, lead to increased drug use beyond pot.'

It's a very different question than 'does pot lead to other drugs'.

As for Biden, it might be more fair to say he's evolved on the issue. In 2010 he flat out said it was a gateway drug. Period, full stop. That appears to have changed, and that's good. He could just say that. That would be laudable.

Earlier this month, however, he made this explicit and falsifiable claim:

“The truth of the matter is, there’s not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not it is a gateway drug,”


And that is simply wrong, and at odds with his current statement. He said there wasn't enough evidence. There is, and has been for some time. Now he's saying he's saying he's certain it's not, and he's willing to act on it politically. Movement in the right direction, but still, a reversal. The characterization is accurate. I'm still going to vote for him if he's the nominee, but my vote was never in question. (Nor is my state, to be clear)


We don't have a lot of wiggle room here. We're trying to mine the middle for a few scant percentage points in a few states to flip the country. We can't afford un-forced errors like this. Look, my candidate has made some errors as well. Now's the time to show leadership, a steady and solid message, and land this fucking plane. That's what the primary is for. We gotta get it right.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Oh my. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2019 #1
Seriously... but it's good that Joe's advisors advised Joe, once again, to reconsider his views. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #29
Biden's view before reversal: I need more research to determine whether Marijuana is a gateway drug. beastie boy Nov 2019 #36
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2019 #3
It bothers me that he is so unwilling to admit when he's wrong. cwydro Nov 2019 #4
I really dislike how defensive he is loyalsister Nov 2019 #9
It is a terrible quality (or lack there of) for an adult human being ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #25
Right there with you!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #30
Pot vs. The Rule of Law WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #5
I too would imprison thousands of people for a win! jberryhill Nov 2019 #10
I just said I would give up Pot for a President Biden WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #13
Marijuana was a gateway drug for me ... Autumn Nov 2019 #15
Disappointed you did not pickup on my reference/please allow me to explain WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #19
Haven't heard of God gift. But Durban poison and Black Beauty for my RA Autumn Nov 2019 #23
THIS!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #31
The key to empathy is being able to consider the situation of persons other than yourself jberryhill Nov 2019 #21
Smoke WA-03 Democrat Nov 2019 #35
marijuana was a gateway drug for me ... stonecutter357 Nov 2019 #6
There's an anecdote in every room. AtheistCrusader Nov 2019 #22
To what? ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #26
Gateway to vagueness? Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #27
Could be ChubbyStar Nov 2019 #28
Makes sense jcgoldie Nov 2019 #32
I can talk - but in vague terms Bradshaw3 Nov 2019 #39
I think you are correct. /nt tonedevil Nov 2019 #33
Nothing wrong with saying you've evolved on the issue. tritsofme Nov 2019 #7
Joe favors research to determine whether cannabis is a gateway drug ritapria Nov 2019 #8
That is correct, he didn't say whether it was or wasn't still_one Nov 2019 #12
Well.....he did recently say: guillaumeb Nov 2019 #11
Not big on my list of American or world problems. Main issue for me is need to decriminalize. emmaverybo Nov 2019 #14
I'm glad he clarified his position. I still prefer a candidate who supports legalization. nt Maven Nov 2019 #16
Welcome to the 20th century billpolonsky Nov 2019 #17
Biden reverses something he never said? beastie boy Nov 2019 #18
See post 11. AtheistCrusader Nov 2019 #24
Problem is, several preeminent health research institutions disagree with you. beastie boy Nov 2019 #34
Sorry, the Federal Government is biased on this issue. AtheistCrusader Nov 2019 #38
The Hill has been a platform for John Solomon to spread conspiracys about Biden tirebiter Nov 2019 #20
Glad to know where he stands. Thanks for sharing. NT TidalWave46 Nov 2019 #37
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