Democratic Primaries

sfwriter

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130. "We're insisting on Donald Trump's being released.... we should be consistent "

Reply to scheming daemons (Original post)

Fri Mar 22, 2019, 03:05 PM

Mar 2019

Asking our candidates to do in the primary what we've asked Trump to do in the general isn't consistent. It is, again, demanding a higher standard from our candidates. That's not necessarily wrong. I think we should demand that as a form of vetting, but framing it as parity is wrong. It is an inconsistency.

We should demand our candidates do this in the primary because we are better than the GOP, more transparent, more authentic. Otherwise, why are we demanding our candidates to do something in the primary that has never been a requirement. Imagined consistency, again, where our primary candidates are held to a standard typically expected of nominees, is not consistent. It is a higher standard on our part. We should own that.

Then again, if your goal is just to strike at at single candidate, accuracy might get in the way of exclusively hounding that candidate in this race. If that's your goal, please ignore any high-minded reasoning and keep grinding away at 2016.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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The DNC should not allow any candidate on debate stage that hasn't released their tax returns [View all] scheming daemons Mar 2019 OP

I don't think it should be a requirement. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #1

If we are going to be calling for Trump's, we have to make it a requirement scheming daemons Mar 2019 #2

I don't think you are being consistent. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #3

Sounds very consistent to me nt Trumpocalypse Mar 2019 #13

I don't see where the request is... WeekiWater Mar 2019 #18

This is about the D primary debates happybird Mar 2019 #34

Exactly! Andy823 Mar 2019 #4

*ALL* candidates have to make their tax returns for the past 10 years publicly available. trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #8

Common sense really, someone else around here said this a while ago...me Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #54

You are right forklift Mar 2019 #21

On this one I agree True Blue American Mar 2019 #26

It most certainly should Cha Mar 2019 #19

I disagree that it should be a requirement. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #23

Good thing it's not up to you. MrsCoffee Mar 2019 #32

I missed where the party has made it a requirement. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #38

Ikr! "... less transparency.."..! Cha Mar 2019 #51

That's what you get with cults of personality. The person is all that matters. Math, evidence, facts Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #102

When did the Democratic Party do that? Bradshaw3 Mar 2019 #104

Elizabeth Warren disagrees with you. Cha Mar 2019 #50

That is not a great concern of mine. NT WeekiWater Mar 2019 #52

Don't care.. I appreciate Cha Mar 2019 #57

You aren't arguing for complete transparency. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #58

Show the Transparency of 10 Years Of Tax Returns! Cha Mar 2019 #61

I am with Elizbeth True Blue American Mar 2019 #63

It only makes logical sense.. why Cha Mar 2019 #67

Sorry, I thought Harris was your preferred candidate. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #68

What are you going on about?.. This is about Cha Mar 2019 #69

My comments have pertained to just that and nothing more. NT WeekiWater Mar 2019 #70

"We shouldn't have to beg elected officials to disclose their financial interests" Cha Mar 2019 #73

I just don't think it's as big of an issue to you as you say. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #75

Elizabeth: "that's why I've released my tax returns from the past 10 years" Cha Mar 2019 #77

I've posted links to them on DU multiple times. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #79

So? Cha Mar 2019 #80

Elizabeth is True Blue American Mar 2019 #27

Of course, Elizabeth is right on More Transparency! Cha Mar 2019 #53

+1. Tipperary Mar 2019 #42

Somebody has something to hide. I wonder what it is. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #5

New Jersey has made it a freaking Law! Cha Mar 2019 #10

Good idea. comradebillyboy Mar 2019 #15

There is NO question that something is to hide and yes, what can it be? Eliot Rosewater Mar 2019 #55

Either that or 2016 ended Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #59

Yes, what possible reason would Cha Mar 2019 #111

How many years has your candidate released? Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #140

Haha.. your Deflection isn't working, tibbs. Cha Mar 2019 #146

Post removed Post removed Mar 2019 #149

Look in the mirror, tibbs.. before you accuse anyone Cha Mar 2019 #151

We were all screaming bloody murder about Trump's returns. Firestorm49 Mar 2019 #6

I strongly agree with this Gothmog Mar 2019 #7

New Jersey! Cha Mar 2019 #11

Booom! Transparency for ALL.. not just for Cha Mar 2019 #9

Yes, this NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #12

Yes, Transparency is important, Riff.. for all kinds of Cha Mar 2019 #14

When is "soon" NastyRiffraff Mar 2019 #44

BS needs to know that Transparency Cha Mar 2019 #56

Yes, show us the taxes or go home. R B Garr Mar 2019 #16

The candidates who *have* released their full tax returns show INTEGRITY and HONESTY. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #30

Democrats can not use tax returns as an issue against trump unless nominee produces their returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #17

Past ten years? One recent year? Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #20

Bernie only released the 1040 - 2 pages forklift Mar 2019 #22

Jake Tapper fact checked the claim that sanders released returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #37

Last time True Blue American Mar 2019 #64

Ha! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #31

That claim was fact checked and earned four Pinocchios Gothmog Mar 2019 #36

No BS did NOT.. you're Misinformed. Cha Mar 2019 #78

April 2016: Sanders' tax return: As 'boring' as promised Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #83

Bernie Sanders's false claim that he has released his full federal tax returns Cha Mar 2019 #84

What tax info has Kamala Harris released? Eric J in MN Mar 2019 #85

Your "Whataboutism" is Not Working. Cha Mar 2019 #86

She released one Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #115

Yes she did, and that was when she last ran for office more than two years ago..... George II Mar 2019 #133

Where's BS' Full Tax Returns? 10 years? Cha Mar 2019 #134

Where's KH's Full Tax Returns? 10 years? Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #139

BS said "soon".. where's BS' Full Tax Returns? Cha Mar 2019 #142

Hypocrisy Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #144

BS, where's your Full Tax Returns? Cha Mar 2019 #148

Where are Kamala's? Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #150

Sanders says he will release 10 years of tax returns 'soon' Cha Mar 2019 #152

How many did Kamala say she would release again? Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #154

Give it up, tibbs.. your act is Not helping Cha Mar 2019 #155

More whataboutery.... ehrnst Mar 2019 #177

Since you've told us several times already, you know the number. But she's been a candidate.... George II Mar 2019 #179

Nearly a month ago. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #178

Did she say that she would release them "soon" a month ago? ehrnst Mar 2019 #182

Actually no, it's accurate. (nt) ehrnst Mar 2019 #183

Whataboutery. ehrnst Mar 2019 #184

Interesting how fast the whataboutism shows when there isn't a ehrnst Mar 2019 #120

It isn't "Whataboutism" Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #121

You seem unclear on the definition ehrnst Mar 2019 #123

Rank hypocrisy Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #141

Hit the nail on the head, didn't I? ehrnst Mar 2019 #181

It's called DEFLECTION! Cha Mar 2019 #135

So pointing out that your declared candidate has only released one.... Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #143

BS needs to show his Full Tax Returns. Cha Mar 2019 #147

Yes, Kamala has more declared supporters on DU than Bernie. ehrnst Mar 2019 #180

That claim earned four Pinocchios Gothmog Mar 2019 #107

Jake Tapper fact checked this claim and proved that it was false Gothmog Mar 2019 #108

And he could end all the annoying speculation very, very simply. ehrnst Mar 2019 #136

Don't forget Gillibrand. WeekiWater Mar 2019 #24

They will NEVER release their tax returns. They have NO INTENTION of ever releasing them. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #25

Amen on that post! True Blue American Mar 2019 #28

Yeah but Bernie says "we still have to do a few little things" jcgoldie Mar 2019 #29

+1 happybird Mar 2019 #39

Oh, he's absolutely rich. Definitely 1%. And that doesn't bother me AT ALL. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #41

Watching Bernie lick his lips True Blue American Mar 2019 #66

Are you implying that Sanders is deliberately witholding his taxes ehrnst Mar 2019 #137

No! True Blue American Mar 2019 #165

Got it. ehrnst Mar 2019 #166

For his own sake True Blue American Mar 2019 #168

+1000. ehrnst Mar 2019 #170

She does True Blue American Mar 2019 #65

At this point, no matter what he does, Sanders will look bad LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #33

Agree True Blue American Mar 2019 #169

Where are the tax returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #35

He said he will release ten years worth of tax returns Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #116

Whaboutery.. ehrnst Mar 2019 #122

So Kamala only releasing one year of taxes Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #124

Moving the goalposts, are we? OK, I'lll play - where are Bernie's 2017 taxes? ehrnst Mar 2019 #126

She didn't release her 2017 returns Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #145

OK, so I take "where are Bernie's 2017 returns" back. Where are Bernie's 2015 taxes? ehrnst Mar 2019 #173

Yes, considering the time frames involved, that is VERY different. George II Mar 2019 #132

Update.. BS released Cha Mar 2019 #156

:) True Blue American Mar 2019 #171

If you want to go there: We got Kamalas 2015 financials in 2016. Where are Bernie's 2015 returns? ehrnst Mar 2019 #125

Mahalo, ehrnst.. here's some more on Kamala's Cha Mar 2019 #157

All put together in brown Paper envelopes! True Blue American Mar 2019 #172

That's daft sfwriter Mar 2019 #40

If and when the DNC starts making special rules targeting one candidate... Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #43

It wouldn't target one candidate BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #45

Only one candidate is being demanded to release them Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #60

Yes he has. True Blue American Mar 2019 #72

It's been a tradition for a long time. BannonsLiver Mar 2019 #82

Trump didn't refuse to release them either forklift Mar 2019 #88

What rule has the DNC passed that targets only Bernie? Are you afraid that he won't be able ehrnst Mar 2019 #129

smh.. there always has Cha Mar 2019 #160

And of course, when the DNC makes a rule namahage Mar 2019 #174

But Bernie said very recently that he didn't get criticism for not releasing taxes. ehrnst Mar 2019 #131

Semantics. So far BS has said he's going Cha Mar 2019 #158

Like reducing the role of superdelegates? n/t namahage Mar 2019 #46

Sure! NurseJackie Mar 2019 #47

Oh BULLONEY! Your threat Cha Mar 2019 #110

So requiring the same thing of all Democratic candidates is targeting one? ehrnst Mar 2019 #127

Oh Please, tibbs.. enough of your threats. Cha Mar 2019 #159

Agreed... St. Bern has stalled long enough Blue_Tires Mar 2019 #48

every interviewer should be asking why he hasn't released his taxes Gothmog Mar 2019 #49

He said in '16 he would release them before the convention, and he didn't. He LIED lunamagica Mar 2019 #62

And this is 3 years later! True Blue American Mar 2019 #71

Good question. I want an answer and i want the truth. BERNIE, please show your taxes. trueblue2007 Mar 2019 #74

Agree jberryhill Mar 2019 #76

Absolutely! Plus can't appear on primary ballots....... getagrip_already Mar 2019 #81

Amusing that, despite calls for transparency, so many candiates are getting a pass in this topic... Lancero Mar 2019 #87

Ten years or see you later! CrossingTheRubicon Mar 2019 #89

Came here looking for an update forklift Mar 2019 #90

Total and utter bullshit. Kentonio Mar 2019 #91

How so? forklift Mar 2019 #92

Just because you clearly hate Bernie Kentonio Mar 2019 #93

I don't hate him forklift Mar 2019 #95

Sure, no hate here. No sirree.. Kentonio Mar 2019 #97

So you are saying it's a conspiracy Mr Tibbs Mar 2019 #117

Strawman... ehrnst Mar 2019 #118

Is it soon yet? Gothmog Mar 2019 #94

aaaaaaahahahahahahahaha forklift Mar 2019 #96

Waiting - OhZone Mar 2019 #98

WOW - That is cool! forklift Mar 2019 #99

K & R Maru Kitteh Mar 2019 #100

There will come a time when... Mike Nelson Mar 2019 #101

K&R highplainsdem Mar 2019 #103

Kick! Tax returns will be a requirement . R B Garr Mar 2019 #105

Kick. nt Andy823 Mar 2019 #106

Jennifer Rubin will keep on asking this question Gothmog Mar 2019 #109

Washington State is adopting a ballot access law Gothmog Mar 2019 #112

More states are looking at ballot access laws Gothmog Mar 2019 #113

Washington Post-Time for candidates to disclose their tax returns Gothmog Mar 2019 #114

CREW is calling on all presidential candidates to publicly release 10 years of tax returns. Gothmog Mar 2019 #119

K&R stonecutter357 Mar 2019 #128

"We're insisting on Donald Trump's being released.... we should be consistent " sfwriter Mar 2019 #130

Anyone not releasing their full tax returns is playing us for fools. NurseJackie Mar 2019 #138

Exactly. I wish someone could analyze that body language R B Garr Mar 2019 #187

Also make it a requirement to be a Democrat itsrobert Mar 2019 #153

Given that Trump seems to have gotten away with bernie59 Mar 2019 #161

Baloney. trump's Not releasing Cha Mar 2019 #162

Bernie seems to be dragging his feet bernie59 Mar 2019 #163

Elizabeth Warren leads the way.. Cha Mar 2019 #164

Warren and Gillibrand have each released 10 or more returns. Booker when he first ran... George II Mar 2019 #191

BS is too busy hiring stein voters.. Cha Mar 2019 #192

BS has said he'd be releasing them for 3+ years now ... nobody believes him at this point n/t SFnomad Mar 2019 #175

Yeah, I don't believe him much either... bernie59 Mar 2019 #186

That sounds very familiar for some reason... ehrnst Mar 2019 #189

So you're saying personal financial transparency shouldn't be asked of Democratic candidates? ehrnst Mar 2019 #176

My post was an observation, not a suggestion. bernie59 Mar 2019 #185

So, you would dismiss the discussion about Trump's failure to release ehrnst Mar 2019 #188

The DNC doesnt are. Or it would be a rule. aikoaiko Mar 2019 #167

I agree 100% BlueFlorida Mar 2019 #190

From Jennifer Rubin Gothmog Mar 2019 #193

"He's had a month to release tax returns. Enough is enough." --- You know... NurseJackie Mar 2019 #194

Kirsten Gillibrand released her 2018 tax returns on Wednesday Gothmog Mar 2019 #195

Inslee, a 2020 presidential hopeful, released his tax returns this morning. Gothmog Mar 2019 #196

Is sanders going to issue redacted returns? Gothmog Mar 2019 #197

But that would be rigging it against Bernie! treestar Mar 2019 #198

All candidates need to release their tax returns Gothmog Apr 2019 #199

Washington Post-Enough with the excuses. It's time for Sanders to release his tax returns. Gothmog Apr 2019 #200

From the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Apr 2019 #201

Bernie Sanders is "providing political cover" for Donald Trump not releasing his tax returns Gothmog Apr 2019 #202

Stephanie Ruhl-Could Bernie Sanders' tax returns drive his supporters away? Gothmog Apr 2019 #203