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MineralMan

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3. I don't know about that program.
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 02:18 PM
Nov 2019

However, I've always thought we should subsidize higher education for anyone who is willing to devote equal time to service where it is needed. We pay for your school, but you have to repay us by working in your field at a job that needs doing, wherever it is.

You don't have to work for free, either. We'll pay you the going entry-level rate for whatever the job is. But, you don't get to choose the location. We'll do that, based on need.

Frankly, it's a hard thing to argue against, I think. It would also make educational opportunities available to people who might not otherwise be able to get that education. That's a primary goal. It would also bring people to places where most people don't think about going. It would be good for those doing the service and for those who need those services.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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I've never had a problem with that notion. I'm sure there are details to be worked out. mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2019 #1
I don't know about that program. MineralMan Nov 2019 #3
This plan is what I WISH our candidates would be promoting... Moostache Nov 2019 #54
Great concept, but I see one problem: The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #2
Yeah, the thing is that there are many jobs that go unfilled out there. MineralMan Nov 2019 #4
This is all quite true. If the job can be supported because there is demand for it, The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #10
You know, I don't have answers to all of your questions. MineralMan Nov 2019 #14
Other modern developed countries Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #5
Have we done it here? Have you seen any movement in that direction? MineralMan Nov 2019 #7
We have several excellent candidates proposing Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #13
Yes. I am a beneficiary of those old subsidized systems. MineralMan Nov 2019 #15
So you got yours but 'those kids' should just be happy flipping burgers? Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #56
Uh, no. I'm trying to find a way to let them attend college without MineralMan Nov 2019 #58
that you don't think 'they' should attend. Voltaire2 Nov 2019 #66
Your description reminded me of this... NurseJackie Nov 2019 #6
I never watched that, but I know the concept. MineralMan Nov 2019 #8
More info... NurseJackie Nov 2019 #12
Yes. I understood the plot line. It's interesting, and does relate MineralMan Nov 2019 #16
One problem, though: beastie boy Nov 2019 #9
Let's see: MineralMan Nov 2019 #11
This can become very complex and expensive very quickly. beastie boy Nov 2019 #17
Stuff is complicated, isn't it? MineralMan Nov 2019 #19
Exactly, and this is why I'm skeptical about the free college plans. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #21
As am I. Which prompted me to post this. MineralMan Nov 2019 #27
THAT is the way to do it. Kind of like the GI Bill and some military benefits. We should do that.. George II Nov 2019 #18
Well, at least it makes some sense. It's not like just saying: MineralMan Nov 2019 #20
Free 4 year college for everyone is not complicated and doesn't need extra explanation. aidbo Nov 2019 #24
Hmm state directed use of Human Resources, huh? Sounds like communism. aidbo Nov 2019 #22
Does it? OK. MineralMan Nov 2019 #29
Needs to be means tested. We need some income to pay for it. ehrnst Nov 2019 #23
Means testing is just a way to weaken it and make it easier to do away with. aidbo Nov 2019 #25
No, it'll make the 1% pay something into that they can. ehrnst Nov 2019 #32
Bull. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #37
Bull to you. aidbo Nov 2019 #48
NOT giving money to rich people hasnt caused any of those problems. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #50
What? You want this to be paid for somehow? MineralMan Nov 2019 #30
An excellent foundation. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #26
Trade and vocational education should be funded by the industries MineralMan Nov 2019 #33
That is true for some trades. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #35
The discrimination was a separate problem and not directly caused by the program. MineralMan Nov 2019 #40
Very true. guillaumeb Nov 2019 #44
Good stuff. brush Nov 2019 #28
Here in GA, we have a similar program already in place for teachers. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #31
Yes. There have been systems like this here and there. MineralMan Nov 2019 #36
I agree. And i'd bet even a lot of republicans would support it if its written properly. oldsoftie Nov 2019 #39
Yes. Insisting on perfection means the other guy wins. MineralMan Nov 2019 #42
HRSA Loan forgiveness programs are based on this concept. I relocated to get tulipsandroses Nov 2019 #34
Without guarantees, such systems are not likely to work as well as they should. MineralMan Nov 2019 #38
Oh, I completely, I agree. The HRSA loan forgiveness programs don't work well for many tulipsandroses Nov 2019 #43
What about married students? flor-de-jasmim Nov 2019 #41
What about them? MineralMan Nov 2019 #55
We should stop... Mike Nelson Nov 2019 #45
But "free" sells better. It makes people think they dont really have to pay for it oldsoftie Nov 2019 #51
I have asked this question several times with no answer MichMan Nov 2019 #46
Maybe a solution could be to offer a stipend or a refund of a flat amount per semester The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2019 #47
Ahh, now you'll be accused of spreading RW talking points! oldsoftie Nov 2019 #53
the Univ of KY medical school had a similar program yellowdogintexas Nov 2019 #49
terrible idea that originated from USSR AlexSFCA Nov 2019 #52
Communistic I tell you, crazytown Nov 2019 #57
LOL! MineralMan Nov 2019 #61
Mr. I suspect you to be ... crazytown Nov 2019 #62
Are you now, or have you ever been... MineralMan Nov 2019 #63
I plead the 2nd. crazytown Nov 2019 #64
Are you now, or have you ever been... crazytown Nov 2019 #65
A good idea, but many degrees wouldn't have associated jobs andym Nov 2019 #59
There's always teaching for majors like the humanities. MineralMan Nov 2019 #60
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