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Demsrule86

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33. Well if you disenfranchised AA voters by putting them last (large number in the south), you would

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 01:04 PM

Nov 2019

lose massively because there are large AA populations in the Mid West and other areas that we must win in order to win the presidency. And no candidate without AA support which would include Warren should be our nominee without such support...Iowa is different because their demographics represent an old Democratic party of 25 to 30 years ago.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Why do we place so much weight on the vote of Iowa, a rural state less than 4% African American, [View all] pnwmom Nov 2019 OP

IMO, it's wrong RainCaster Nov 2019 #1

I like it. Rotating Primaries. No caucuses. dchill Nov 2019 #3

Jimmy Carter got the most votes in Iowa in 1976 ritapria Nov 2019 #25

Many voters polled have said they don't care what happens in Iowa ... only has meaning if we give it Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #38

That is true ritapria Nov 2019 #39

said this before. the early states are really NOT given the amount of weight stopdiggin Dec 2019 #51

Exactly right...nothing will change my mind about who I support...don't think Biden has to Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #57

I've been wondering the same thing. bitterross Nov 2019 #2

Besides, our 1st primary is in a mostly red state. dchill Nov 2019 #4

That's the part that gets me Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #5

Alabama Democrats are very heavily African American. Should their votes not matter pnwmom Nov 2019 #9

Hey, I live in Texas Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #11

Go after them at your own peril ...we need AA votes in other states for the presidency. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #37

Iowa can't shift to primaries. crazytown Nov 2019 #6

Why can't Iowa shift to primaries? How can NH's statute prevent Iowa from holding a primary? pnwmom Nov 2019 #8

Those are the essential questions. Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #12

It isn't a matter of "going along" with NH's primary jmowreader Nov 2019 #16

the single date doesn't get my vote stopdiggin Dec 2019 #52

The biggest problem I see in it... jmowreader Dec 2019 #55

In 08 we had a long primary...President Obama had primary offices in every state pretty much and it Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #58

Iowa, NH, SC, and NV should at least be on the same day madville Nov 2019 #7

agree completely. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #42

Because they are 1st. Tiggeroshii Nov 2019 #10

We should re-order our primaries every four years. Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #13

Well, who's going to do that? Each state sets its own primary/caucus dates and the only... TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #14

That is not true really...Florida and Michigan were punished in 08 for going out of turn...consider Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #36

Nope squirecam Dec 2019 #48

Yeah ok...if you say so. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #56

In other words, California and New York would always be the first two primaries jmowreader Nov 2019 #17

I'd be fine with that. Both very progressive states with large populations and large D populations. stopbush Nov 2019 #19

And we will likely lose every election...the candidates coming out of such primaries won't Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #34

And we would as I said before end up with candidates that might not be electable. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #59

Why can't we rotate? Happy Hoosier Dec 2019 #62

Would the states that didn't vote for Democrats get to vote? Renew Deal Nov 2019 #24

Of course they would, just as they do now Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #28

Wouldn't that mean that the states with the largest minority populations per capita vote at the end? Renew Deal Nov 2019 #31

Well if you disenfranchised AA voters by putting them last (large number in the south), you would Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #33

I absolutely disagree with that...you are basically planning primaries to elect Warren as Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #35

It is too expensive...primaries are run by the states. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #43

If you believe that Iowa is insignificant and unrepresentative, than just ignore the results MichMan Nov 2019 #15

It's more than just delegates. It's appearances too... but I think you knew that already. NurseJackie Nov 2019 #18

Why do we keep asking the same question over and over? brooklynite Nov 2019 #20

I'll wait for the translation. BannonsLiver Nov 2019 #40

This is an informative article on this, pros and cons to change. Hortensis Nov 2019 #21

Fun fact: every competitive Pres. candidate signed a commitment to keep Iowa first... brooklynite Nov 2019 #22

Which state should go first? Renew Deal Nov 2019 #23

This message was self-deleted by its author Desert grandma Nov 2019 #26

That works for me too Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #29

Meanwhile people dismiss "urban" (euphemism for "not white enough") areas as non-representative StarfishSaver Nov 2019 #27

Are you dissatisfied with the nominees that our current system has produced? Kaleva Nov 2019 #30

The only reason Iowa has meaning is because we give it meaning;I don't think it matters personally. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #32

Please don't count me into that "we." MineralMan Nov 2019 #41

I think you are correct...take me. I will support Biden regardless of Iowa or New Hampshire...so I Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #45

Wrong squirecam Dec 2019 #49

This is 2019, not 2008. MineralMan Dec 2019 #53

Only because his electability was questioned..The voters already liked him...this is not the case Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #60

Your question contains the answer. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2019 #44

Neither Iowa nor New Hampshire represent the demographics of the party Gothmog Nov 2019 #46

So what states would you say represent the demographics of our party? Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2019 #47

States that have racial diversity...you can't possibly be a nominee if you can't win AA voters. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #61

I totally agree with you on both points Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2019 #64

Silly lib micDROP Dec 2019 #50

It's the first time the media can say somebody "won" something treestar Dec 2019 #54

Not this year...IMHO. Demsrule86 Dec 2019 #63

States that are more diverse will decide the winner of the nomination Gothmog Dec 2019 #65