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Gothmog

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22. The early boom for 2020 Democrats' left turn is yielding to moderate muscle
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 03:14 PM
Nov 2019



The early boom for 2020 Democrats' left turn is yielding to moderate muscle as Elizabeth Warren falls, Joe Biden persists and Pete Buttigieg rises.
What's happening: Poll after poll shows voters like the idea of Medicare for All. But the second you tell them about costs and tradeoffs, they turn on it.
Why it matters: A harsh spotlight on Warren's specifics collided with Mike Bloomberg's massive spending on a moderate message, as well as rising angst among donors and investors about risks of Warren-Sanders socialism.

Warren collapsed in the latest national Quinnipiac University poll just as she's been diving into the details of how she'd pass Medicare for All — and fending off a barrage of attacks from her more moderate rivals.
She's not the only Democrat who's run into trouble. Kamala Harris realized she could be checkmating herself by dismissing private health insurance — which is why she changed her Medicare for All plan to allow private insurers to offer Medicare plans.
And in an interview for "Axios on HBO," she told Axios' Margaret Talev she knew there could be a political price to pay for changing her plan — but says she told her team that "we need to do a better plan. This is not good enough."
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
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Moderates on the Rise In 2020 Race [View all] applegrove Nov 2019 OP
As if things weren't depressing enough. aikoaiko Nov 2019 #1
You mean media, not masses. InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2019 #28
I'm positively overjoyed that liberals are leading in the polls. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #2
".. Biden's persisting.." damn right he is! If "moderate" Cha Nov 2019 #14
Folks have to know DownriverDem Nov 2019 #17
Exactly.. that's how Cha Nov 2019 #19
Well said. Some have intentionally misclassified and misrepresented DEMOCRATS who have and are still_one Nov 2019 #27
Elizabeth was doing great until she to started to Bob and Weave on MFA ritapria Nov 2019 #3
Uh, no. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #4
It's not moderation it is safe. judeling Nov 2019 #5
Really? Because I support Joe Biden on policies and persona. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #6
Totally agree with you. Persona and Policy is meat and potatoes why I support Biden... WheelWalker Nov 2019 #9
Pragmatism, [first beat trump], may be a driving force. empedocles Nov 2019 #7
Nancy Pelosi is a great liberal Democrat. Just like Joe Biden. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #10
Excuse me.. but "bull". Cha Nov 2019 #15
Not true DownriverDem Nov 2019 #18
Wrong! Biden has the support of many of us because we know that he represents the same... Tarheel_Dem Nov 2019 #21
Sorry disagree skh500 Nov 2019 #8
You should check the dates. The Valley Below Nov 2019 #11
Again.. "bull".. you think this is your chance to Cha Nov 2019 #16
Aren't private insurers already offering ''Medicare plans"? YOHABLO Nov 2019 #12
I have to say I'm relieved (non withstanding my bid disagreement with the label "moderates"). stlstdg Nov 2019 #13
Sanders is holding firm; Biden is flat lining. crazytown Nov 2019 #20
Both Warren and Buttigeieg have he same flaw...can't connect with AA voters...neither will be the Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #24
The early boom for 2020 Democrats' left turn is yielding to moderate muscle Gothmog Nov 2019 #22
I don't want a moderate, and I don't want the far-left Polybius Nov 2019 #23
I want to win the general...and I think Warren is way to left to do so in this country. Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #25
I'll vote Dem too no matter what Polybius Nov 2019 #26
Vote blue no matter who...agree...my kids have tried to explain gender fluid and other Demsrule86 Nov 2019 #29
Joe Biden is the most electable candidate Gothmog Nov 2019 #30
Moderate - just left of center is the place to be PhoenixDem Nov 2019 #31
Or moderates go full bore Ronald Reagan BlueWI Dec 2019 #32
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