Democratic Primaries

Blue_true

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47. That burns my ass also.

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:50 AM

Dec 2019

Although I do blame Warren for snuggling up to Bernie's plan without running the math first.

Bernie can throw out a lot of symptoms of our healthcare system and say they are why we need MFA. But not a single person has challenged him to explain in detail the costs and his implementation plan, the same things that hurt Warren when she finally got around to it.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Mark Shields on Warren's Medicare for All - PBS NewsHour [View all] question everything Nov 2019 OP

"Give Barack Obama credit. Give Nancy Pelosi, people who voted for it credit." Cha Nov 2019 #1

Yikes. KPN Nov 2019 #16

K&R! highplainsdem Nov 2019 #2

People just do not want to hear this, but Mark Shields is correct. I mean 70 years, people. Hekate Nov 2019 #3

So true! nt Tumbulu Nov 2019 #18

Exactly, Hekate. It's not "revisionist history" as Cha Nov 2019 #20

What you pointed out is the infuriating part. Blue_true Dec 2019 #44

hogwash... myohmy2 Nov 2019 #4

I agree myohmy. Uncle Joe Nov 2019 #13

Mrk Shields can go fly a kite ritapria Nov 2019 #30

Saying that something hasn't been able get votes for the last 70 votes is betsuni Nov 2019 #33

Oh yeah. That he made such a point of it suggests he does give a shit. TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #35

That claim received three Pinocchios. TexasTowelie Nov 2019 #37

You are giving a symptom. Explain how we get the prescription for eliminating that symptom. nt Blue_true Dec 2019 #46

Thinking the same thing. Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2019 #39

I wish I could agree. Our government is still ruled by cash. redqueen Nov 2019 #40

Truman proposed national healthcare because he saw a need. Blue_true Dec 2019 #45

"Explain how Bernie will accomplish something..." myohmy2 Dec 2019 #53

I am not convinced that a man who was a career backbencher can get a giant Blue_true Dec 2019 #67

That's B S. The media has decided to take aim at Warren and Harris this week Gus2525 Nov 2019 #5

Be happy; with all the money we spend, we're number 37! BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #6

Share this table with non-liberal voters; I'm SURE it will do the trick, right? brooklynite Nov 2019 #7

America's health care FAIL crosses party lines BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #9

No one is saying that our current healthcare is OK question everything Nov 2019 #22

It would be nice if we all accepted two things as Democrats BeyondGeography Nov 2019 #29

And that graph customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #61

M4A in and of itself would decrease malpractice insurance costs BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #62

A worker's comp type of system customerserviceguy Dec 2019 #63

wait what... woundedkarma Nov 2019 #12

There are lots of factors that most people don't consider luvtheGWN Nov 2019 #15

Exactly. Duppers Nov 2019 #10

Not just the media. Party leadership as well. KPN Nov 2019 #17

Damned right! And we're going to fight as long as it takes and as PatrickforO Nov 2019 #24

So true! rainy Dec 2019 #60

If everything else fails, just blame it on the media. TreasonousBastard Nov 2019 #36

2010 had nothing to do an economy in deep recession? crazytown Nov 2019 #8

You know, the way I see it is this: PatrickforO Nov 2019 #25

Even Nixon tried to get a type of health care reform going..... BigmanPigman Nov 2019 #11

K&R nt NYMinute Nov 2019 #14

No.. it's Not "revisionist history".. it happened.. I happen Cha Nov 2019 #19

I'm Pissed That Warren Has to Take The Brunt Of the Attacks on Bernie's M4All Indykatie Nov 2019 #21

Warren is in the lead Sanders is not question everything Nov 2019 #23

I don't know what makes you think it will cost jobs. PatrickforO Nov 2019 #26

That burns my ass also. Blue_true Dec 2019 #47

Since 1949, "Every Democratic president from that point forward fought for it." betsuni Nov 2019 #27

I believe that even Wilson thought of that idea in some form. Blue_true Dec 2019 #48

Why can't Medicare for all work for people who want to keep their private insurance? Sucha NastyWoman Nov 2019 #28

Because so far the MFA plans put out by Sanders and Warren Blue_true Dec 2019 #49

But that's my point Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2019 #57

I agree with you last paragraph. And those companies are basically running Blue_true Dec 2019 #65

Without leaders courageous enough to do the right thing, no matter the political cost, Fiendish Thingy Nov 2019 #31

Then always vote with us until we have all republicans out of office. Blue_true Dec 2019 #50

I miss the days when the Democratic party had some vision dflprincess Nov 2019 #32

You have to be elected first. JFK, FDR, LBJ were already in office when they came with their vision question everything Nov 2019 #38

We're not going to get anyone elected dflprincess Nov 2019 #41

Of course not. We should run on strengthening the ACA restoring whatever was removed question everything Nov 2019 #42

Strengthening the ACA just protects the insurance companies dflprincess Nov 2019 #43

This is the problem. A poster gives you a path that we can take to success and you throw out some Blue_true Dec 2019 #52

Go out to one of the state exchanges dflprincess Dec 2019 #55

One of the reasons why premiums in the ACA are likely high now is it Blue_true Dec 2019 #66

Basically, to get MFA and things like low cost college, Blue_true Dec 2019 #51

The argument is always the same. democrank Nov 2019 #34

Actually Medicaid and Medicare and Obamacare work quite well. Some folks' private insurance emmaverybo Dec 2019 #54

Not only are premiums too high dflprincess Dec 2019 #56

Obamacare or all private insurance? I agree copays and deductibles are too high for many. It is emmaverybo Dec 2019 #58

People act like we have private insurance and we have Medicare, Medicaid, and Obamacare Sucha NastyWoman Dec 2019 #59

The trick would be to get them to see private insurance as economically destructive, eating up emmaverybo Dec 2019 #64