Democratic Primaries

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(52,247 posts) Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:31 PM Dec 2019

Al Sharpton was really angry. No black candidate on the debate state. (On Nicole Wallace) [View all]

Was not clear at whom his anger was aimed.

And, I don't remember a black candidate in 2016, a race which we won!

I guess we are far from realizing MLK dream about content of character and not the color of the skin.

And many here who lament the "lack of diversity" - again, at whom are is this lament aimed?

There will still be two women on the stage and a gay (white) man.

What exactly do the complainers mean by "diversity?" Their definition?

If the nominee is an old white man - Biden - will they continue to protest? Not voting? Then we might as well throw the towel now and be ready for the conservatives taking control of all levels of court.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Al Sharpton was really angry. No black candidate on the debate state. (On Nicole Wallace) [View all] question everything Dec 2019 OP

some candidates could not convince enough people to support them. he should be msongs Dec 2019 #1

In her home state, she was running towards the bottom of the field of candidates. I guess that demosincebirth Dec 2019 #72

And a Jew. roody Dec 2019 #2

That, too question everything Dec 2019 #4

If 40-45% of the AA vote wasn't sticking with an old white guy BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #3

The issue isn't how many black voters support an old white guy StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #12

no candidate has been forced out of the race. they all could have stayed in despite msongs Dec 2019 #17

Who is arguing otherwise? LanternWaste Dec 2019 #82

Thank you mcar Dec 2019 #27

I think it's very much an issue, unfortunately BeyondGeography Dec 2019 #31

I respect your posts, but you didn't deal with the central issue the poster made. Blue_true Dec 2019 #33

I didn't address that point because it's irrelevant to the issue I'm raising StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #36

How do we get the diverse field that you allude to? Blue_true Dec 2019 #46

No one needs to be "propped up." But we do need to adjust institutional processes StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #49

President Obama became the real deal by winning Iowa in 2008. Blue_true Dec 2019 #55

This has nothing to do with Obama StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #56

It does squirecam Dec 2019 #62

You don't get it. StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #65

We don't agree on everything, you and I. Act_of_Reparation Dec 2019 #88

... StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #96

So you seem to have shifted. Now it is not about having Black skin as much as it is about being Blue_true Dec 2019 #63

Yep squirecam Dec 2019 #66

For real. I really liked her and donated when she kicked off her campaign. bearsfootball516 Dec 2019 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author pinkstarburst Dec 2019 #93

What do you think would be a good way to assure there is a black candidate? pangaia Dec 2019 #58

I don't think the goal should be "to assure there's a black candidate" StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #60

Well said. I agree with you. pangaia Dec 2019 #83

Thanks for sharing that experience StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #84

PoC's anxious pragmatism is itself evidence of the unjust system radius777 Dec 2019 #75

This is such an important point StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #85

Haven't heard Booker's out. But if he becomes so, it's the black bloc's Hortensis Dec 2019 #5

Not out, but not on the next debate stage question everything Dec 2019 #7

No, it's still open and he may still make it. Hortensis Dec 2019 #13

I was really impressed by Booker when he addressed the 2016 Convention question everything Dec 2019 #26

Well, I suspect Booker and Harris have big careers ahead. Hortensis Dec 2019 #32

African Americans as a group are the smartest voters. Blue_true Dec 2019 #35

:) Silliness is not an indulgence most feel they can afford? Hortensis Dec 2019 #41

Why did so many stay home and not vote for Hillary? Tipperary Dec 2019 #79

For the same reason Trump won padah513 Dec 2019 #80

Smart voters, no matter their race, do not fall for Tipperary Dec 2019 #81

I just believe that Hillary made a weak VP choice Blue_true Dec 2019 #95

Tim Kaine, while he is a decent person, excited no one. Blue_true Dec 2019 #94

I'm 66, but I hope I live long enough Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #6

I think that it is wonderful that the majority of African American voters Blue_true Dec 2019 #39

Rev MLK's dream is still just a dream at140 Dec 2019 #8

And this is a problem for us, the "identity" definition question everything Dec 2019 #11

"What about us? Whites?" Because white people have it so hard and just can't get ahead StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #23

Where does Andrew Yang fit in then? nt 42bambi Dec 2019 #42

given why Franken resigned wanting a woman wasn't ridiculous dsc Dec 2019 #77

And we did. Tina Smith. With a long history of political activity question everything Dec 2019 #91

Oh, please StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #15

I agree JonLP24 Dec 2019 #19

Qualifications, accomplishments and agenda is all that matters to me.. at140 Dec 2019 #21

Well squirecam Dec 2019 #34

Being in congress before, is not necessarily the top qualification at140 Dec 2019 #54

And... squirecam Dec 2019 #57

Agreed!..eom at140 Dec 2019 #59

It's not mutually exclusive or one or the other StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #61

She's out. So she lost. squirecam Dec 2019 #64

African American voters seem to be doing what Dr. King dreamed of. Blue_true Dec 2019 #40

Agree completely..eom at140 Dec 2019 #52

Exactly The Mouth Dec 2019 #69

She would make a good VP pick. RDANGELO Dec 2019 #9

I am not sure. She is too tough minded - as are all the candidates, really, to be second chair to question everything Dec 2019 #16

Considering Biden's age, there is a decent chance he would only go one term. RDANGELO Dec 2019 #24

Obama/Biden IluvPitties Dec 2019 #25

Of course. Stared me in the face. question everything Dec 2019 #90

Biden ran for president in 2008 Polybius Dec 2019 #67

Of course! I even donated to him back then. Thanks question everything Dec 2019 #89

I agree with every point that you made. Blue_true Dec 2019 #43

So squirecam Dec 2019 #44

We already had a female VP nominee Blue_true Dec 2019 #47

I think it is different to compare the situation to the 80s JonLP24 Dec 2019 #48

Booker and Harris are not moderates, neither are the Castro brothers. Blue_true Dec 2019 #50

I'm not pissing on Booker JonLP24 Dec 2019 #51

Why not listen to him instead of challenging him this way and calling people "complainers" StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #10

You are correct. I could not ask him, of course question everything Dec 2019 #14

"concentrating on identities" is the very gravaman of politics StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #18

I agree JonLP24 Dec 2019 #22

Every election is about identity politics mcar Dec 2019 #30

Post removed Post removed Dec 2019 #20

You're going with that? irisblue Dec 2019 #37

It is what it is Rev Al, it is what it is. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2019 #28

Obama was on stage and elected twice. evertonfc Dec 2019 #29

good let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Dec 2019 #38

Not a Rev Al fan Zorro Dec 2019 #45

Maybe direct your rage at kacekwl Dec 2019 #53

Once upon a time nominating an Irish *gasp* Roman Catholic was a huge deal. The Valley Below Dec 2019 #68

We have 4 front runners..... squirecam Dec 2019 #70

LOL StarfishSaver Dec 2019 #73

Trump won in 2016 so how did 'we' win? nt kelly1mm Dec 2019 #71

We got more votes question everything Dec 2019 #92

That is not how you win the Presidency. nt kelly1mm Dec 2019 #97

Welp ... I pretty much called it right after the first 'UH-OH! NO DEM POCS!11!' tweet hit ... mr_lebowski Dec 2019 #74

Until money is taken out of our elections , and foreign corruption, duforsure Dec 2019 #76

So squirecam Dec 2019 #86

Welcome Back ChubbyStar Dec 2019 #87